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Old 17-10-19, 07:30 AM   #3921
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Quarterfinals- here we go

The NZ team that will beat Ireland has been picked and Retallick is back

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Old 17-10-19, 12:24 PM   #3922
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Rugby World Cup: England v Australia - George Ford dropped for quarter-final

England have dropped George Ford for their World Cup quarter-final against Australia, with Owen Farrell selected in his place at fly-half.

Ford has started every game at this World Cup and has been among England's most impressive performers.

But head coach Eddie Jones has left out the Leicester playmaker for the biggest game of his four-year regime.

Henry Slade comes in for Farrell - who has played centre in the World Cup to date - to partner Manu Tuilagi.

Both Billy and Mako Vunipola have been declared fit to start, with George Kruis also dropped to the bench and Courtney Lawes starting in his place.

"Australia defend a certain way - we believe these three players can trouble their defence, and defensively we feel like it's a pretty strong 10-12-13 combination," said Jones.

"We know Australia are a high possession team, they are a high phase team and that's how they want to play.

"And so there's going to be a lot of defending in that area, and we think those three guys are well equipped to handle it."

Although the Farrell, Tuilagi and Slade combination was used throughout this year's Six Nations, this still represents a significant gamble from Jones, with the Exeter back having not played more than 40 minutes of rugby since May after a serious knee injury.

For Ford, it is history repeating itself, after previous England coach Stuart Lancaster dropped him for the pool games against Wales and Australia at the 2015 World Cup.

Ford had been a regular starter in the previous two years before that tournament and was the standout performer in an impressive victory in Cardiff in the preceding Six Nations.

The former Bath player has once again impressed in Japan as England have beaten Tonga, the United States and Argentina with some comfort.

His partnership with Farrell has featured more times since the last Rugby World Cup than any other 10-12 combination in top-tier internationals.

Farrell looked out of sorts against Argentina, missing four consecutive kicks at goal and at periods in the second half looking caught between options as if still stunned by Tomas Lavanini's first-half shoulder charge.

But with the Wallabies likely to pick a heavyweight midfield of 17-stone Samu Kerevi and 19-year-old Jordan Petaia, another big man at more than 15 stones and 6ft 3ins, Jones has changed his play-making strategy.

"They are a clever team - they play good rugby, they've improved their scrum and line-out over the last six to 12 months considerably and that makes them more difficult to beat," said Jones.

"We've had three games, we've had three bonus-point wins, we can't do more than that.

"Do we have to play better than that against Australia? The likelihood is yes, and we are prepared for that."

Jones has stuck with the youthful pairing of Tom Curry and Sam Underhill in the back row to take on the great scavenging breakdown threat of David Pocock and Michael Hooper.

Jonny May wins his 50th cap on the wing, although there is no place even on the bench for Jack Nowell, who has failed to recover from a hamstring injury.

Lewis Ludlam covers the back-row positions on the bench, with Jonathan Joseph the other midfield option alongside Ford among the replacements.

Australia were beaten by Wales in the pool stage and have lost each of their last six matches against England.

But they beat England at Twickenham at the last World Cup en route to making the final, and defeated world champions New Zealand just two months ago.

"Pocock has probably, over the last 10 years, been the foremost number seven in the world," Jones said.

"Hooper is a massively important player for Australia - he's a link player, and takes the ball forward a lot once they get inside the opposition's 22.

"He's obviously a key leader for the team, but our two young boys are just getting better every game.

"Curry has improved his line-out jumping immensely over the last six or eight weeks, Underhill's probably the most combative seven I've seen for a long time. It's just going to be a battle at the breakdown."

England team to play Australia: Daly; Watson, Slade, Tuilagi, May; Farrell (capt), Youngs; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler; Itoje, Lawes; Curry, Underhill, B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Marler, Cole, Kruis, Ludlam, Heinz, Ford, Joseph.
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Old 17-10-19, 04:57 PM   #3923
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Rugby World Cup: England v Australia - George Ford dropped for quarter-final

England have dropped George Ford for their World Cup quarter-final against Australia, with Owen Farrell selected in his place at fly-half.

Ford has started every game at this World Cup and has been among England's most impressive performers.

But head coach Eddie Jones has left out the Leicester playmaker for the biggest game of his four-year regime.

Henry Slade comes in for Farrell - who has played centre in the World Cup to date - to partner Manu Tuilagi.

Both Billy and Mako Vunipola have been declared fit to start, with George Kruis also dropped to the bench and Courtney Lawes starting in his place.

"Australia defend a certain way - we believe these three players can trouble their defence, and defensively we feel like it's a pretty strong 10-12-13 combination," said Jones.

"We know Australia are a high possession team, they are a high phase team and that's how they want to play.

"And so there's going to be a lot of defending in that area, and we think those three guys are well equipped to handle it."

Although the Farrell, Tuilagi and Slade combination was used throughout this year's Six Nations, this still represents a significant gamble from Jones, with the Exeter back having not played more than 40 minutes of rugby since May after a serious knee injury.

For Ford, it is history repeating itself, after previous England coach Stuart Lancaster dropped him for the pool games against Wales and Australia at the 2015 World Cup.

Ford had been a regular starter in the previous two years before that tournament and was the standout performer in an impressive victory in Cardiff in the preceding Six Nations.

The former Bath player has once again impressed in Japan as England have beaten Tonga, the United States and Argentina with some comfort.

His partnership with Farrell has featured more times since the last Rugby World Cup than any other 10-12 combination in top-tier internationals.

Farrell looked out of sorts against Argentina, missing four consecutive kicks at goal and at periods in the second half looking caught between options as if still stunned by Tomas Lavanini's first-half shoulder charge.

But with the Wallabies likely to pick a heavyweight midfield of 17-stone Samu Kerevi and 19-year-old Jordan Petaia, another big man at more than 15 stones and 6ft 3ins, Jones has changed his play-making strategy.

"They are a clever team - they play good rugby, they've improved their scrum and line-out over the last six to 12 months considerably and that makes them more difficult to beat," said Jones.

"We've had three games, we've had three bonus-point wins, we can't do more than that.

"Do we have to play better than that against Australia? The likelihood is yes, and we are prepared for that."

Jones has stuck with the youthful pairing of Tom Curry and Sam Underhill in the back row to take on the great scavenging breakdown threat of David Pocock and Michael Hooper.

Jonny May wins his 50th cap on the wing, although there is no place even on the bench for Jack Nowell, who has failed to recover from a hamstring injury.

Lewis Ludlam covers the back-row positions on the bench, with Jonathan Joseph the other midfield option alongside Ford among the replacements.

Australia were beaten by Wales in the pool stage and have lost each of their last six matches against England.

But they beat England at Twickenham at the last World Cup en route to making the final, and defeated world champions New Zealand just two months ago.

"Pocock has probably, over the last 10 years, been the foremost number seven in the world," Jones said.

"Hooper is a massively important player for Australia - he's a link player, and takes the ball forward a lot once they get inside the opposition's 22.

"He's obviously a key leader for the team, but our two young boys are just getting better every game.

"Curry has improved his line-out jumping immensely over the last six or eight weeks, Underhill's probably the most combative seven I've seen for a long time. It's just going to be a battle at the breakdown."

England team to play Australia: Daly; Watson, Slade, Tuilagi, May; Farrell (capt), Youngs; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler; Itoje, Lawes; Curry, Underhill, B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Marler, Cole, Kruis, Ludlam, Heinz, Ford, Joseph.
If England manage to keep that 15 fit then they’ll win the WC - the power in that side is frightening
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Old 17-10-19, 09:01 PM   #3924
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Slade for Ford isn't a massive surprise given Ford has struggled to turn up in big games for England plus the Aussies are fielding some heavies in the back line.

In fact I would always pick it that way however in fairness to Ford he has had a decent WC so far albeit against considerably weaker teams.

I don't have too many concerns about power Nev, the question is whether their attack functions. In that respect Slade is also a good pick with the concern being that he's had very limited game time over recent months. The new attack coach (Scott Wisemantel) has added something to the mix as well.

England still have a tendency to not turn up sometimes or get complacent during the course of a game (which is mentioned earlier in the thread somewhere) so I don't see that they have any better chance than all the other teams left in the competition, but they are in a reasonable place at the moment.

I might be saying something different after the weekend if they're on the bus home mind.
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Old 18-10-19, 09:53 PM   #3925
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There has surely got to be a shock in the 1/4 finals.....?

Eng vs Aus - Eng to win
NZ vs IRL - NZ to win
Wal vs FRA - FRA to win
Jap vs ZA - ZA to win
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Old 18-10-19, 10:34 PM   #3926
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Predictions for the Ireland game. 45 - 10 or thereabouts.
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Old 19-10-19, 08:57 AM   #3927
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Australia always have such good players, no idea why they're been so consistently shit in recent years. Pocock deserves better.

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There has surely got to be a shock in the 1/4 finals.....?

Eng vs Aus - Eng to win
NZ vs IRL - NZ to win
Wal vs FRA - FRA to win
Jap vs ZA - ZA to win
I'm always shit at predictions, but I think you have those on the button.
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Old 19-10-19, 09:28 AM   #3928
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Australia always have such good players, no idea why they're been so consistently shit in recent years. Pocock deserves better.



I'm always shit at predictions, but I think you have those on the button.
England’s power starting to show - so hard to defend against so many big guys smashing the shit out of you
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Old 19-10-19, 09:39 AM   #3929
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Old 19-10-19, 09:40 AM   #3930
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Stupidity from Australia not taking the points there. Wastes your own time too when you're chasing the game. Seen it time and time again. Well defended from England there though
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Old 19-10-19, 09:59 AM   #3931
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Old 19-10-19, 11:33 AM   #3932
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I fear a hiding - we are already battered and ABs look well up for this
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Old 19-10-19, 11:37 AM   #3933
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I fear a hiding - we are already battered and ABs look well up for this
Could be a long night.
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Could be a long night.
Ya - we had to win the group and avoid this side of the draw. The ABs are too strong, too good and our lads are way off form.

I hope we can keep it to less than 50 points
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Old 19-10-19, 01:15 PM   #3935
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That was some performance from the ABs. Tough seeing anyone stopping them yet again
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Old 19-10-19, 02:42 PM   #3936
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That was some performance from the ABs. Tough seeing anyone stopping them yet again
As good as NZ we’re Ireland were absolute shit, missed 3 kicks to touch with penalties, knocked countless balls under no pressure. As always are cycle of form is out of synch with the WC.

It makes me wonder if why we do well in the off World Cup years is because other sides are blooding players. We have too many old guys that Schmidt kept in the side and others that are vastly out of form playing a brand of rugby from the stone ages.

Farrell needs to come in and make some sweeping changes in the squad and try to bring some creativity and physicality into the side. A disappointing end to Joe’s reign but he has done wonders for Ireland in his tenure:

Three 6 Nations
One grand slam
Got to no 1 in the world
Won a series in Aus
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Still went out in the 1/4 final of the World Cup - even if we won the group ZA would have over powered us
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Brilliant start by France. Like I always say, very good players, only rock up at world cups.
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Yeah France came out on fire. Wales have regrouped though.

Surprised that big Fijian's not playing for France. He was immense in their last game. Like a second coming of Lomu.
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French often start like this, they struggle to maintain it through a game though
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Penaud is a freak of nature. Definitely the world's premier centre in the future. Class inside, outside and on the wing.
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And the French doing what they do and fall apart
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Wales were absolute shit. What a boring side.

Ref had a mare at the end there. France should've had a pen right in front of the sticks and then that ball for the try clearly went forward. Not sure what the ref was looking at, it got ripped out behind the line and then caught in front of it. Plus the dead give-away was the player having to turn and move in the opposite direction to catch it...defies the laws of physics if that ball went backwards. (or even level)
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French can only blame themselves (or one player). Were brilliant for the the first 60 but got to them. Uncharacteristically, Medard's tactical kicking let them down at the end, also not sure why they were reluctant to put Lopez into the pocket for a drop at the end as there were 2 opportunities where they could have racked up a bit of a lead.

Thought Fickou, Poirot and Dupont were excellent. Definitely don't deserve to be on the losing team. That's the way sports go regardless.
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The French did what they usually do and self destruct. No sympathy for them at all as it’s not an unusual outcome, time and again then do it.

Anyway obviously come on Japan
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Anyway obviously come on Japan
They're going to get taught a lesson in scrumming and the crash ball today.
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We weren't very good today and France having twice as long rest and prep showed.

After all the red card fuck overs we've had just happy to see the usual blue implosion and for us to get it one over the line.
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Japs are going to getting battered here. This Saffer side is huge
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They should get an absolute shooing but they’ll be up for it.

Hope it’s a good game
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Surprised that Rassie was going for a six/two split on the bench. Would have stuck Damian Willemse among the replacements, particularly with Kolbe a slight injury concern.
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Yeah hoping they give them a good game, but got a feeling they played their final last week. Seen it all too many times.
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Willie must fuck off.

Diabolical rugby from the Boks.
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Have we got to the point in society where you now can't abbreviate names in fear of it being construed as racist?

If that's the case you cunts stop calling me Aussie then. It's incredibly offensive.
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Have we got to the point in society where you now can't abbreviate names in fear of it being construed as racist?

If that's the case you cunts stop calling me Aussie then. It's incredibly offensive.
when it comes to rugby you are Aussies and we have Kiwis, Jocks, Paddy’s, POMs, Japs and Boks

There needs to be common sense applied here
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Surely saying Japs is like saying Brits?
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Exactly. There's absolutely no malice involved at all. People get so triggered by the smallest thing thinking they're being politically correct and all that shite.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap

Seems it can be seen as offensive/derogatory in some contexts. Wasn't sure of that myself. I know some Argentine's find 'Argie' offensive. And the Pakistan one goes without saying, so to stay in the clear, I'd avoid using the term 'Jap' if you're unsure what connotations other people may attribute to it. Not everything is political correctness gone mad.
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Exactly. There's absolutely no malice involved at all. People get so triggered by the smallest thing thinking they're being politically correct and all that shite.
Would you go around calling people Pakis?

Clearly whether you think saying Jap is acceptable or not, we can all do a bit better than reducing the discussion to the idiotic assumption all shortened forms are the same.
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