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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
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It was a jokey comment clearly ffs Jaco. I'll just call him shite next time so as not to offend to overly sensitive 
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30-07-22, 12:34 PM
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30-07-22, 12:35 PM
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Dan if you want to call players, in the team you support, unflushable turds simply because they get injued, then that's up to you. But if you call Liverpool players unflushable turds on a Liverpool fan forum you are probably going to get folk disagreeing with you on some level as I did this time. Nothing to do with being overly sensitive, just a case of some people, this time it being me myself and I, seeing things differently to you. We do not disagree on thinking Chamberlain should have been sold prior to this injury, we do not disagree on him being injury prone, the only two things I disagree with you on is calling a Liverpool player, one who has been a model pro for us, an unflushable turd and also seemingly in the fact I have some empathy for what I see as a mentally tough situation for the guy. As I said in one of my replies, I am not trying to knock you at all, it is the turd comment I am knocking as I think it is a comment the player in question does not deserve from any Liverpool supporter.
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30-07-22, 12:41 PM
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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
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When in doubt, mumble. Last edited by danperkins; 30-07-22 at 12:47 PM. |
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30-07-22, 01:05 PM
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Laporte is a crucial player for them who has missed a ton of time through injuries and you think he is a great player. Chamberlain is a squad player for us who missed a ton of time through injuries and you call him a turd that will not flush. If Chamberlain was a crucial first teamer then his minutes would be higher as when fit he tends to be a sub. Either way both were unavailable for a similar number of actual games over a five year period yet one is a turd for it and the other is not. Just found it odd that our own player, a squad player no less, is called a turd that will not flush for missing a lot of games through injury yet their guy is not called anything negative despite being injured about as much as Chamberlain. Surely it should then be a case of saying one is a great player and one is a decent player, but both should be moved on if not reliable enough in the long term? Regardless we are not going to agree on the one thing that prompted me to post and that is you thinking Chamberlain is a turd that will not flush and me disagreeing with him being called that simply because he gets injured a lot.
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30-07-22, 02:47 PM
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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
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 Yes but he isn't a crucial first teamer is he? He's not even a crucial sub either. I wasn't talking about Laporte in this thread until you mentioned him. I called Ox a turd because I do not rate him & I have said previously. Being injury prone is just another annoyance & another reason for us to get rid. The difference in quality between Laporte & Ox is not even a conversation & neither is the difference in mins, as Laporte has played double the amount of mins in league. Also you should mention the word turd a few more times
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When in doubt, mumble. Last edited by danperkins; 30-07-22 at 02:49 PM. |
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30-07-22, 02:57 PM
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Dan - just back down ffs. It's a bullshit comment that realistically you should just admit to regret making and stop trying to defend it. He's scored some good goals for us, has been unlucky with injuries and tries hard when he plays. The whole unflushable turd thing just seems more and more ridiculous the more you attempt to explain and defend it.
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30-07-22, 03:00 PM
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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
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I don't regret making it
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30-07-22, 03:02 PM
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Fair enough
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30-07-22, 03:07 PM
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30-07-22, 03:15 PM
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Hopefully back and able to be cover for that period just after the WC when our players that went away need a little break. If he can do that and be injury free/available for a few weeks around then, we will be happy enough. He is one of those players that I never include when thinking about starting and back up XIs, so any minutes he can give as cover for lesser games is a bonus. Think his contract expires next summer anyway so if he gives us some minutes this season great, if not then hope he has planned well for his next club and then his time as an ex player. He is well enough spoken for a footballer so could well have a career as a pundit or something like that.
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30-07-22, 11:04 PM
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Jaco you took the bait
 Dan was ‘ obviously ‘ joking.
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31-07-22, 01:03 AM
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31-07-22, 01:08 AM
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Ah Norbs, are you siding with dan??
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31-07-22, 01:17 AM
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Yeah, for me supporting this team I can’t ever turn on a player in this way at all. Particularly in a golden era. We all support in different ways, but I’m not about calling one of our players an unflushable shite.
He’s a good guy, he was performing for us and has put in a few big performances, though due to injury none recently, he scored and has the capability of scoring big goals for us. I still remember his pain of that game v Roma. In his prime. He went down with a snapped cruciate and tried to get up and play on. He’s a good lad, who has been through a horrific run of injuries but who despite that always comes across as an incredibly positive lad. He will be more fondly associated with Liverpool than most of us could dream of. I think he deserves some respect.
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31-07-22, 01:43 AM
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31-07-22, 02:22 AM
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31-07-22, 05:28 AM
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I think at this point you just have to let him walk (if he can
)He offers us absolutely nothing and clogs up a list spot for younger players to get game time.
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31-07-22, 06:33 AM
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Having him around is good practice for the physio team
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31-07-22, 06:51 AM
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If he’s underperforming and getting paid for it, so what? Money doesn’t come out of your own pockets. It’s not affecting the team as he is a well liked member of the group.
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31-07-22, 08:00 AM
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31-07-22, 11:42 AM
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31-07-22, 02:52 PM
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Either people have forgotten or I'm imagining something that never happened, but at the point he got his 2018 injury so far as I can recall, he was absolutely on fire; hard work, pace, stamina and some brilliant goals.
I remember wondering who we'd leave out to accommodate him if everyone was fit and we made the final. For a very brief period, he added another dimension and I'm not sure we've had anyone doing anything similar since TBH. |
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31-07-22, 03:02 PM
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His performance against City at Anfield in the CL was especially good. They couldn’t live within him. It’s a real shame the injury meant he wasn’t able to go on and produce more performances like that.
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31-07-22, 07:48 PM
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I don’t think it would matter even if he got back to playing as well as he did against Roma because Klopp had long since decided he doesn’t want a CM who constantly goes at the opposition, takes a lot of risks and loses the ball because of this quite a bit relative to his other CM peers Over time, klopps Liverpool went front a team built around a deadly quick counter attack to one that comfortably dominates 98% of the teams they play with a majority of possession and superior field position. Ox was a loser in this.
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31-07-22, 08:52 PM
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Maybe, but presumably we're never going to know. We'd only have known if A. O-C had stayed fit. |
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31-07-22, 08:55 PM
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31-07-22, 10:09 PM
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01-08-22, 09:08 AM
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Injuries have really blighted him which is a real shame and it's hard to imagine he'll ever get back to that level again, his body just doesn't seem capable of dealing with the demands of top flight football anymore. |
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01-08-22, 09:29 AM
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01-08-22, 10:27 AM
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He’s too limited a player. He’s had some good games and hit a few good shots from the edge of the box but it’s his inability to play well in wide positions that’s really killed his chance with us, as much as his injuries. As a central attacking midfielder, he’s so so, a poor man’s Coutinho, as an attacking wide player he’s crap.
He had a bad injury record at Arsenal, where he also wasn’t a world beater, so we should have expected to get what we got, what he’s always been, an almost top player who misses lots of games and doesn’t score many goals. Signing him for £35m with a year left on his contract must be one of the worst transfer decisions of the Klopp era.
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01-08-22, 12:00 PM
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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
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01-08-22, 08:48 PM
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He's a good dancer though.
Strictly???
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03-08-22, 10:43 AM
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Ah well, after all that's done & said, at least he has Perry to go home to!
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03-08-22, 10:59 AM
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03-08-22, 11:26 AM
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His first season he was brilliant.
I was lucky enough to be at the home game v manchester City in the champions league when he played brilliant and scored a super goal. He was fuckin flying. At the time, as good as Coutinho had been for us, i was thinking that Oxlade was a better fit into the direct and explosive style that Jurgen wanted us to play. He really was the dogs bollocks and if he had form and fitness, then he would be a nailed on starter in our best 11. Such a pity he was broken by injuries and i do wonder if he is just not physically able to play for Liverpool (the way we train is the same way we play etc) so might havr been better fit at another club. Sturridge was the same under Jurgen as well. Still hope that he gets a few outings this season and it would be great if he had one or two big moments for lfc...... In the same way Origi, Minamino did before leaving. Like Lallanas equaliser at old Trafford was another example....... So to summarise, hard luck Ox.......it was a cunt hair away from being beautiful. Obviously if any offer came in then we should sell the cunt |
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03-08-22, 11:31 AM
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Just watched the league winning run, he was on the scoresheet a few times that year....
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03-08-22, 11:36 AM
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He scored a few in the CL that year also, one sublime outside of foot top bins.
Agree with Franks summary, he was in incredible form prior to that injury. Scoring Gerrard-esque goals and really driving from midfield in a way we hadn't seen since Stevie. The training regime at Liverpool is demanding, it has to be, and it would seem that Ox's body is no longer capable of handling this. I hope he contributes this season, the 5 subs situ can really work for him. And then I reckon he can easily get a move to a team where the demands are more manageable for his body.
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03-08-22, 11:44 AM
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He was a good player for us prior to the bad injury he suffered and he's not really been the same since; a real shame for him and us.
There's the usual hyperbole on here about he's crap etc.. but he just can't seem to cope with the physical demands of how we look to play. |
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