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Old 17-07-22, 09:39 AM   #321
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I loaded this thread just as he 3 putted the 1st hole

Did you see Lowry chip in two in 2 holes? Back to back 2s
That was unbelievable.

Felt the pressure got to Smith a bit yesterday. He's the best putter on the tour but he was ordinary on the greens.
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Old 17-07-22, 03:15 PM   #322
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I've been doing Rahm and Smith at every major for about 2 years now.

Smith's putting is an absolute joke. I've genuinely never seen anything like it.
Did i hear right that he holed a 250ft putt??
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Old 17-07-22, 04:26 PM   #323
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The slow play still even with half the field is fucking ridiculous
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Old 17-07-22, 06:24 PM   #324
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That is an astounding 2 putt on 17 from Smith. He's been insane on this back 9.
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Old 17-07-22, 06:25 PM   #325
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Did i hear right that he holed a 250ft putt??
Lol, no idea, but would be no surprise. He's a joke.

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The slow play still even with half the field is fucking ridiculous
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Old 17-07-22, 06:29 PM   #326
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Cam Smith on this back 9 has been ridiculous
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Old 17-07-22, 06:31 PM   #327
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Rory’s putting has cost him today.
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Old 17-07-22, 06:32 PM   #328
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And that has finished it from Smith. Brilliant final round
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Old 17-07-22, 06:45 PM   #329
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What a player he is. Love to see major winners who don't smash it miles. Great short game, the GOAT putter. Great stuff.
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Old 17-07-22, 06:46 PM   #330
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Final 2 were too focused on their group imo, Cam putting 4 birdies in 4 holes on the turn, Rory had no time to step it up a gear.

If they played it again next weekend you'd fancy Smith again. Worthy winner
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Old 17-07-22, 06:53 PM   #331
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Fair play Cam Smith that was a hell of a final round. Feel sorry for Rory, he didn't do much wrong, he just couldn't get any momentum. The best player won.
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Old 17-07-22, 06:58 PM   #332
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I backed them and DJ - I always back DJ, it’s like Shaggy and Rahm
Smith, Rory and DJ - nice weekends work

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Old 17-07-22, 07:09 PM   #333
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I only had a fiver on Smith ffs. Got 20s. Win's a win mind!

Winning the Players and the Open, what a year.
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I still can't get over that putt on 17. Even though you know he's a machine-like putter, with the pressure I thought he'd either end up rolling back into the sand or be way over the far side. To knock it to 12-15 feet and then, of course, roll it in from there, was absolutely clutch as fuck.
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Old 18-07-22, 08:02 AM   #337
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Typically shit from reporters. He's just won the Open and rather than focus on that they launch into the LIV golf stuff.
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Old 18-07-22, 12:51 PM   #338
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I still can't get over that putt on 17. Even though you know he's a machine-like putter, with the pressure I thought he'd either end up rolling back into the sand or be way over the far side. To knock it to 12-15 feet and then, of course, roll it in from there, was absolutely clutch as fuck.
Only just managed to recap the final round, as it was on at stop o'clock here.

fuck me! clutch.as.fuck
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Old 19-07-22, 01:03 PM   #339
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I think there's only one (or two) vague doglegs on the course. No course would ever be designed like that now - all dead straight, vast wide fairways. Don't get me wrong the place is magical but I think the game has sort of overtaken it now.
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Yeah, as mentioned, I’ve never been a fan of links golf, even when it is bad weather which is more of a leveller, it again feels completely arbitrary. And as you are saying wasn’t designed for these guys to be driving 400 plus yards.

I don’t think they are due back for & years, but I suspect it will always be on the list of Open courses for the history.
Why do they cut the rough so much? I would say most links or linksy courses around England atm - if you're more than a yard or two off the fairway you are absolutely fucked - like hack it out sideways kinda fucked - these guys were missing fairways and being allowed to get away with it as the 2nd cut was so short

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Final 2 were too focused on their group imo, Cam putting 4 birdies in 4 holes on the turn, Rory had no time to step it up a gear.

If they played it again next weekend you'd fancy Smith again. Worthy winner
Hovland stinking the place out can't have helped him
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Old 19-07-22, 06:57 PM   #340
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Bob Bubka mentioned Rory wanted it too much, He probably knows that Cam is going to the Liv so put more pressure on himself to put him in his place.
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Old 20-07-22, 09:49 AM   #341
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Here are all the players to have signed up so far:

Abraham Ancer
Oliver Bekker
Richard Bland
Itthipat Buranatanyarat
Laurie Canter
Paul Casey
TK Chantananuwat
Bryson DeChambeau
Hennie Du Plessis
Oliver Fisher
Sergio Garcia
Taylor Gooch
Branden Grace
Justin Harding
Sam Horsfield
Yuki Inamori
Dustin Johnson
Matt Jones
Sadom Kaewkanjana
Martin Kaymer
Sihwan Kim
Ryo Kinoshita
Phachara Khongwatmai
Brooks Koepka
Chase Koepka
Jinichiro Kozuma
Pablo Larrazabal
Eugenio Lopez-Chacarra
Viraj Madappa
Graeme McDowell
Phil Mickelson
Jediah Morgan
Kevin Na
Shaun Norris
Andy Ogletree
Louis Oosthuizen
Wade Ormsby
Adrian Otaegui
Pat Perez
Turk Petit
James Piot
Ian Poulter
David Puig
Patrick Reed
JC Ritchie
Charl Schwartzel
Travis Smyth
Ian Snyman
Hudson Swafford
Hideto Tanihara
Peter Uihlein
Scott Vincent
Lee Westwood
Bernd Wiesberger
Blake Windred
Matthew Wolff
Kevin Yuan

Haven't heard of half of these but still...if people like Hovland and Smith move over then surely the PGA is in deep shit
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Chase Koepka stands out on that list. Some brotherly love there I would guess "I'll sign up if you sign my younger shit brother as well"
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Chase Koepka stands out on that list. Some brotherly love there I would guess "I'll sign up if you sign my younger shit brother as well"
Is he any good?


Also (soz if this has been mentioned) didn't realise it's called LIV to correspond with 54 in Roman numerals. Wild
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I'd never heard of him, just spotted the surname and googled him. He's shit from what I can tell
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I wonder what other sports they plan on ruining?
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Old 20-07-22, 10:05 AM   #346
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Also (soz if this has been mentioned) didn't realise it's called LIV to correspond with 54 in Roman numerals. Wild
Getting a job on the marketing side of this must be pretty easy. That is so irredeemably shite.

....'Ahhhh. All those classic links between Golf and the Roman empire'
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Imagine the creative agency made an absolute bundle from it as well
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Imagine the creative agency made an absolute bundle from it as well


100% - I'd love to be putting that proposal together.

"Pop a couple of extra zero's on there, have you seen what they are paying Mikelson"?

... feels like this leads into an ethical 'double standards' conversation that I am keen to avoid.
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Read the thread, Apparently it was a dollar a ticket to get in
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Luke Donald has announced he's joining LIV
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His 'apology' is amazing
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Pleased with this - he clearly has a lot of bottle (carrying Garcia's wayward ass through that 4-ball win over Woods and errr, that other fella, springs to mind)

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Respect to Tiger Woods, I mean, he can clearly afford to say no. But those are some big bucks to be walking away from.

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Phil Mickelson and Ian Poulter among LIV golfers to bring lawsuit against PGA Tour

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Phil Mickelson and Ian Poulter are among 11 LIV Golf players who have filed a lawsuit against the PGA Tour in order to challenge their suspensions.

The PGA Tour has suspended all of its members who have signed up to the controversial Saudi-backed LIV series, which is in its inaugural season.

The 2020 US Open champion Bryson DeChambeau has also put his name to the anti-trust lawsuit.

The group argue that the PGA Tour is trying to harm their careers.

"The Tour's conduct serves no purpose other than to cause harm to players and foreclose the entry of the first meaningful competitive threat the Tour has faced in decades," the lawsuit states.

"The purpose of this action is to strike down the PGA Tour's anti-competitive rules and practices that prevent these independent-contractor golfers from playing when and where they choose."

In a letter responding to the lawsuit that was sent to PGA Tour members, commissioner Jay Monahan said the organisation would not back down.

"These suspended players - who are now Saudi Golf League employees - have walked away from the Tour and now want back in," he said.

"It's an attempt to use the Tour platform to promote themselves and to freeride on your benefits and efforts.

"To allow re-entry into our events compromises the Tour and the competition, to the detriment of our organisation, our players, our partners and our fans.

"The lawsuit they have filed somehow expects us to believe the opposite, which is why we intend to make our case clearly and vigorously."

The PGA Tour suspended those who joined up with the breakaway series in June, though those players were still able to compete at the subsequent US Open and last month's Open Championship.

Six-time major winner Mickelson and other major champions including Dustin Johnson, Brooks Koepka, Patrick Reed and Sergio Garcia were among those suspended.

Poulter was also suspended by the the European-based DP World Tour after they followed the PGA Tour's lead.

That move prompted 16 players to threaten legal action if the bans were upheld and Poulter was able to compete at the Scottish Open after his ban was lifted pending a full appeal.

Carlos Ortiz, Peter Uihlein, Jason Kokrak, Pat Perez, Abraham Ancer, Talor Gooch, Hudson Swafford and Matt Jones are the other plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the PGA Tour.

Gooch, Swafford and Jones are requesting temporary relief to allow them to compete in the FedEx Cup play-offs, which start next week.
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Going to be interesting how this plays out, they've made the point that they're "independent contractors" and as such free to choose where they play I guess on the other side of the coin the GAs should also have the right as to who they allow to enter their events.

Won't be anywhere near that simple but the golfers seem to want to have their cake and eat it.
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I wonder if the PGA have a reputational damage clause they can hang everything on?

Would be good if they can if it goes to court as it highlights the actual issues at the core of this.
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"These suspended players - who are now Saudi Golf League employees - have walked away from the Tour and now want back in," he said.
Without knowing any of the specific details, I'd be absolutely amazed if they were employees. Can't see that being true in a million years
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