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Old 31-10-21, 07:35 AM   #1
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Barcelona

I don’t see a thread for them - I guess it was always linked to the Messi one. As they are such a basket case they need their own one

Ronnie the Red got the bullet and they drew against Alaves last night...... this is scary though

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Old 01-11-21, 12:28 AM   #2
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Wish him-all the best naturally but that was a strange signing imo
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Old 01-11-21, 07:47 AM   #3
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Wish him-all the best naturally but that was a strange signing imo
Himself and Messi are best mates - he went there to play with him.....l.worked out well that one
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Old 01-11-21, 11:05 AM   #4
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Himself and Messi are best mates - he went there to play with him.....l.worked out well that one
Messi has broken his heart
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Old 01-11-21, 11:29 AM   #5
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Himself and Messi are best mates - he went there to play with him.....l.worked out well that one
Didn’t Neymar talk Coutinho into joining Barca too & then feck off just before he signed?
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Didn’t Neymar talk Coutinho into joining Barca too & then feck off just before he signed?
Team spirit and loyalty to your mates is rife there obviously
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Old 01-11-21, 11:58 PM   #7
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Team spirit and loyalty to your mates is rife there obviously
Yeah there’s a slight inbred feel about the place
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Old 04-11-21, 02:44 PM   #8
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I'm finding it hard to dance on Barcelona's grave. Sure they've been mismanaged financially and some players are unpleasant etc but is their ownership model not a bit of a beacon in a sea of slave-owning billionaires? I'd far prefer them to succeed than fuckin PSG or Newcastle. Unless I've totally misunderstood their ownership model.
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Old 04-11-21, 03:27 PM   #9
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I'm finding it hard to dance on Barcelona's grave. Sure they've been mismanaged financially and some players are unpleasant etc but is their ownership model not a bit of a beacon in a sea of slave-owning billionaires? I'd far prefer them to succeed than fuckin PSG or Newcastle. Unless I've totally misunderstood their ownership model.

Their ownership model in principle is laudable but they do have strong ties with those you call the slave owning billionaires, they just have their "fan owned" business model to muddy the waters.

Think they are a case of a club wating to have the higher moral ground regarding ownership but still get the Middle Eastern money at the same time.
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Old 04-11-21, 03:30 PM   #10
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i agree completely.... covid has screwed them over and their huge attendances has really hit their income......this coupled with terrible purchases in the transfer market has totally shafted them.

They had the perfect model when Pep was there - and just after that too. Their academy was producing most of their first team and they would supplement that with good purchases. But even back then their transfers were really hit and miss then - but when they bought badly back then, it didn't really matter as much as they had some brilliant players coming through their youth system.....so even if high profile signings didn't work out, it didn't matter

Some of the money wasted over the years was unreal though:

Pjanic - 54m
Trincao - 28m
Greizmann - 108m
Neto - 23m
Malcom - 38m
Coutinho - 140m
Dembele - 120m
Paulinho - 36m
Semedo - 32m
Andre Gomes - 33m
Alcacer - 27m
Turan - 30m
Mathieu - 18m
Vermaelen - 10m
Alex Song - 17m
Chygrynskyi - 22.5m
Kerrison - 12.6m
Chygrynskyi - 22.5m

Is approaching 800m they have spent on transfers over the last 10-12 years that they may as well not have bothered spending
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Old 04-11-21, 03:47 PM   #11
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They used to be gold standard. Fan owned and never sold the shirt, then, fan owned and sold the shirt to UNICEF. Now, fan owned and as mentioned troubling Saudi connections.
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Old 04-11-21, 03:54 PM   #12
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If i recall they didn't receive any cash for the UNICEF sponsorship. It was merely paving the way for the big money Middle East / Japanese shirt sponsorships that followed.

Not sure what say the members got in the shirt sponsorship deals.

The German clubs have the ideal model for ownership. Well apart from RB. They're a fucking abomination. A successful version of other abominations like MK Dons and Airdrie United
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Old 04-11-21, 05:29 PM   #13
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They used to be gold standard. Fan owned and never sold the shirt, then, fan owned and sold the shirt to UNICEF. Now, fan owned and as mentioned troubling Saudi connections.
It all stemmed from Neymar going to PSG - that meant they weren’t the biggest fish in the pond and their vanity clouded their judgement. They got €200m cash for Neymar - normally transfer are paid in installments and the blew it like a drunken sailor.

You could say that their big signings looked good - Dembele, Griezemann and Coutinho being the main ones. Barca were at their best when they used their world class academy and supplement with big names…… they need to get their identity back
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Old 05-11-21, 04:42 PM   #14
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i agree completely.... covid has screwed them over and their huge attendances has really hit their income......this coupled with terrible purchases in the transfer market has totally shafted them.

They had the perfect model when Pep was there - and just after that too. Their academy was producing most of their first team and they would supplement that with good purchases. But even back then their transfers were really hit and miss then - but when they bought badly back then, it didn't really matter as much as they had some brilliant players coming through their youth system.....so even if high profile signings didn't work out, it didn't matter

Some of the money wasted over the years was unreal though:

Pjanic - 54m
Trincao - 28m
Greizmann - 108m
Neto - 23m
Malcom - 38m
Coutinho - 140m
Dembele - 120m
Paulinho - 36m
Semedo - 32m
Andre Gomes - 33m
Alcacer - 27m
Turan - 30m
Mathieu - 18m
Vermaelen - 10m
Alex Song - 17m
Chygrynskyi - 22.5m
Kerrison - 12.6m
Chygrynskyi - 22.5m

Is approaching 800m they have spent on transfers over the last 10-12 years that they may as well not have bothered spending
So good that they signed him twice or was it his twin?
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Old 05-11-21, 04:52 PM   #15
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So good that they signed him twice or was it his twin?
Or given how "well" Barcelona was run the past few years they probably bought him from themselves.......
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Or given how "well" Barcelona was run the past few years they probably bought him from themselves.......
Ah, the influence of creative accountancy!
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Old 05-11-21, 08:23 PM   #17
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Xavi taking the job - paying part of his own release clause as Barca are broke
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Old 05-11-21, 08:32 PM   #18
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even though there are some restrictions still in the place they are only getting 40 to 50,000 for home games
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Old 06-11-21, 08:54 AM   #19
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They have banked so much on his arrival over the years.

Gives me the feeling that it won't work out how they want, too hyped up.

I've only seen a few interviews of him but he's pretty arrogant


Thinks nobody plays the game like barca do, despite the fact that their style is inspired by ajax.
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Old 06-11-21, 09:10 AM   #20
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They have banked so much on his arrival over the years.

Gives me the feeling that it won't work out how they want, too hyped up.

I've only seen a few interviews of him but he's pretty arrogant


Thinks nobody plays the game like barca do, despite the fact that their style is inspired by ajax.
I really liked Xavi as a player and from what I’ve seen of him as a coach his team in Qatar played the ‘ Barca’ way. It’s worth saying that his side were the richest team in the league so they had a huge advantage

This will all depend on the expectations of the fan base and the board. If they think they should win the league/champions league in the next few years then he’s set up to fail.

Barca are €1.5 billion in debt - they need to clear that and they will need full houses in the Nou Camp + champions league football to enable that. They have a core of really good young players - Gavi, Pedri, Fati.......they need to give Xavi time and use the academy. The older players on big money need to be phased out - Pique, Alba, Busquets etc and they need to get rid of the remaining flops Dembele, Pjanic, Lengelet etc

Because it’s Xavi you’d expect him to have more patience than others but Barca fans are fickle are used to winning. Top 4 and debt reduction is a big mindset change for them. Like others I used to admire what they stood for but they became a basket case over the last while - it will be an interesting watch to see how/if they recover
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Spiral into the abyss would be lovely
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Aspas scored a 96th minute equaliser today making it a 3-3 draw with Celta Vigo. Barca in 9th in La Liga.
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Aspas scored a 96th minute equaliser today making it a 3-3 draw with Celta Vigo. Barca in 9th in La Liga.
And Barca were 3-0 up
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And Barca were 3-0 up

Hahaha nice


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Yes, yes, yes!

Take that Messi you greedy cunt. I knew someone would do it in the end
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And those wankers in charge of La Liga reject it
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To be fair, isnt there a minimum wage structure?

I think its funny.
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There will be some creative accountancy being carried out to allude to some expenses being accrued by the player!
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And city were totally unaware of the issue
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I don't even need to go on social media to know certain people will use this to push an anti-vaccine agenda
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But you did, and that's why you posted this
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How does that even work? Just pay his contract out ? How would they be better off as they’d still have to pay someone to fill the spot he’d vacate
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They could terminate his contract on grounds of "unreasonable behaviour" or summat like that...They will find summat to get rid!
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all he has to do is channel his inner Winston Bogarde and make sure he turns up to training on time every day....... and if they try to terminate his contract, then he has to channel his inner Jimmy Conway and just keep saying....."Fuck you....pay me"
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This is Barcelona, by hook or crook...any which way it comes, they'll do it!
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Caught the last ten minutes of the Barca game. Got caught twice at the back 2 v 1 in the final minutes and the benfica lad fluffed it spectacularly.

Not a great start by Xavi.
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Caught the last ten minutes of the Barca game. Got caught twice at the back 2 v 1 in the final minutes and the benfica lad fluffed it spectacularly.

Not a great start by Xavi.
Was an absolute shocker of a miss. Seferovic won't forget that in a hurry. Benfica still should qualify, just need to win. Doubt Barca will get a result against Bayern.
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