The Running/Keeping Fit Thread - Page 124

foresterbloke · 07-01-19, 09:21 PM

I'm still at the gym doing 5x5

EwarWoo · 17-09-19, 02:18 PM

For the past couple of years I've been doing a shitload of power walking. Hit the stage where Sundays I'm by myself I'll do 20k+ in 3 hours (when I have my son we'll do 15k or so, but much slower, still pretty proud of him).

I've recently however decided to start trying some running. My knees are fucked so it makes me nervous, but can jog 1k no drama after much effort, just need to extend it.

Every Tuesday and Thursday morning at the moment I do 7k or so before work. Once I can run all of this will start parking ~7 k from work Mondays and Fridays.

With my Sundays that will give me 56k or so per week

Norbs · 17-09-19, 02:23 PM

I've always thought power walkers look like good people fleeing the scene of a minor crime, like putting dog shit on a door handle.

EwarWoo · 17-09-19, 02:25 PM

Lost 30kg power walking so will take it

Alex · 17-09-19, 02:38 PM

We have 2 Olympic Speed Walkers live near us, so see them training all the time. Its quite a sight to behold becase they move fast as fuck. Quicker than I can jog.

Why start running though? You seem to be nailing power walking? 20k in 3 hours seems rapid as fuck. Why not push on with that more? Or is the key to speeding up that, running?

Norbs · 17-09-19, 02:40 PM

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Lost 30kg power walking so will take it

I've gone the opposite way to you and stopped running as it fucked my knees and have put on a load of weight. Is there a knack to it or is it literally walking as fast as you can keeping one foot on the ground? Is it better for your joints as you're not 'landing' on each stride?

Alex · 17-09-19, 02:41 PM

http://www.teamgb.com/athletes/dominic-king

This guy and his brother.

EwarWoo · 17-09-19, 03:03 PM

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Why start running though? You seem to be nailing power walking? 20k in 3 hours seems rapid as fuck. Why not push on with that more? Or is the key to speeding up that, running?

Well, I've been walking with a colleague. They can't keep up (no surprise, my walking pace is insane) but now they've started to jog. I want to keep up. part pride, part personal challenge, just something to do.

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I've gone the opposite way to you and stopped running as it fucked my knees and have put on a load of weight. Is there a knack to it or is it literally walking as fast as you can keeping one foot on the ground? Is it better for your joints as you're not 'landing' on each stride?

Well, what I've been reading is latest research shows running doesn't hurt your knees, in fact it can delay issues. All the landing shit that hurts long term is conditioning against issues. Another part of why I've started. But as for power walking, I don't do that mincing shit, I just walk fast, no special gait, just fast. You have to swing your arms a bit for momentum, and need running shoes for the flexibility and support, but it really is jut walking.

I don't think about feet on ground or any of that shit, just walk as fast as I can.

I can max out at over 8km/h walking, which is barely any slower than my jogging pace

Red_Polo · 17-09-19, 03:26 PM

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I've gone the opposite way to you and stopped running as it fucked my knees and have put on a load of weight. Is there a knack to it or is it literally walking as fast as you can keeping one foot on the ground? Is it better for your joints as you're not 'landing' on each stride?

There are good meta-analyses showing distance running is not bad for your knees in the way that many orthopods still tell people it is. However, it is postulated there is some negative effect of repeated high loads particularly in those with joint inflammation, but that it is made up for by improvement to overall health (cardiovascular fitness, muscle strength and tone, healthier weight) as well as some of the positive effects load can have on joints. I've had a serious knee injury before and can't run as I used to. My rule is to listen to my body - I am not concerned there is hidden damage to worry about when I'm running without pain.

So I guess I just feel based on what evidence there is out there and my personal experience, that I'd likely be less healthy overall if I didn't run. If you do want to or need to avoid running (if I get pain, I stop) then swimming and cycling are your best friends, although if you've got the time then brisk walking is good too especially if you hit the hills!

30kg loss from power walking is amazing, good on you Ewar

Irishnev · 17-09-19, 08:29 PM

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Lost 30kg power walking so will take it

well done - I always preferred ‘fast walking’ unless it’s running after a football

Assassin · 18-09-19, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EwarWoo

For the past couple of years I've been doing a shitload of power walking. Hit the stage where Sundays I'm by myself I'll do 20k+ in 3 hours (when I have my son we'll do 15k or so, but much slower, still pretty proud of him).

I've recently however decided to start trying some running. My knees are fucked so it makes me nervous, but can jog 1k no drama after much effort, just need to extend it.

Every Tuesday and Thursday morning at the moment I do 7k or so before work. Once I can run all of this will start parking ~7 k from work Mondays and Fridays.

With my Sundays that will give me 56k or so per week

Very impressive

Are you in full funny walk mode at 20k+ in 3 hours?

30kg

Over what period was this and what was your starting weight if you dont mind sharing

I recently started walking a lot more, averaging 10 km/day. However, 11 days ago I really upped my walking/lost the plot

I have totalled 205k in the last 11 days, keeping the tempo at an average 6kmh

EwarWoo · 18-09-19, 12:43 PM

Cheers guys.

Was basically over 12 months I lost 37, had a pre diabetes scare so went from 137 to 100 dead mid Jan to end Nov last year. I lost track at Christmas, 5 weeks of hols with my dad over popped on 7kg and haven't got rid of it yet. It's harder to motivate the diet side when you don't feel unhealthy. Lol.

And yeah, just walking normal, but fast. I just keep pushing until my heart rates over 140 and sit there. 205k's in 11 days puts me to shame but. That's some serious distance.

Alex · 18-09-19, 01:10 PM

Dropping that much in 12 months is seriously impressive.

What made you start with the power walking? Its fascinating to me, as its not a 'usual' way of doing exercise.

EwarWoo · 18-09-19, 01:32 PM

I didn't really, I just started with walking, with the walks slowly getting longer, and was almost hitting 6k in an hour naturally so set it as a challenge. I just found once I was hitting a rythmn I slowly sped up over time naturally.

And I used to live about 6.5k from work so walking that in an hour was another challenge I gave myself. Which turned out to be impossible, wasted too much time waiting at crossings. Lol.

These days my long walks are almost all by Brisbane River. You can easy walk 25k without waiting at a single crossing so your pace doesn't get thrown off and it's all pretty flat.

Alex · 18-09-19, 02:05 PM

Any specific shoes you use? Or just trainers? I imagine this would be a killer on my calf muscles as they get tight at a days walking around a city.

Norbs · 18-09-19, 04:17 PM

Any Asics GEL running shoe would really help

EwarWoo · 18-09-19, 09:01 PM

Basically running shoes. Tried it in walking shoes and the stiffness gives you really sore feet.

You also need a decent amount of support / cushioning, and tie them up snug or the movement will cause blisters.

I found I felt it more in thighs than calves, but your body soon gets used to it. When I run / go for a bike ride my thighs hurt, but walking they quickly recover after.

Red_Polo · 18-09-19, 10:17 PM

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Cheers guys.

Was basically over 12 months I lost 37, had a pre diabetes scare so went from 137 to 100 dead mid Jan to end Nov last year. I lost track at Christmas, 5 weeks of hols with my dad over popped on 7kg and haven't got rid of it yet. It's harder to motivate the diet side when you don't feel unhealthy. Lol.

And yeah, just walking normal, but fast. I just keep pushing until my heart rates over 140 and sit there. 205k's in 11 days puts me to shame but. That's some serious distance.

Rolled back your fasting blood sugars / HbA1c levels I'm assuming?

EwarWoo · 18-09-19, 11:00 PM

Yeah, all back to normal now, I was extremely lucky they caught it early, before I could do real damage. And due to fortunate timing the health service over here had started a preventative program and sent me off to a dietitian.

"Shit, if I have diabetes I won't be able to drink" was a great motivator. Lol.

Just managed 6.72 km in just under 50 minutes. Slowly speeding up. I find the walking bits between running are a lot slower than my normal walking which slows it down a bit but will get there, just need my knees.to get used to it and stop protesting. Lol.

Assassin · 19-09-19, 08:38 AM

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Basically running shoes. Tried it in walking shoes and the stiffness gives you really sore feet.

You also need a decent amount of support / cushioning, and tie them up snug or the movement will cause blisters.

I found I felt it more in thighs than calves, but your body soon gets used to it. When I run / go for a bike ride my thighs hurt, but walking they quickly recover after.

I need to invest in some decent trainers tbh. I have been walking in Vans shoes. This week I changed from those I used the first week. Same model same size but this weeks shoes are just a little wider. Result, one little toe that looks like it has been raped by a rabid badger.

Managed another 20.3k yesterday

Slinky Skills · 19-09-19, 09:03 PM

I've been using a personal trainer on a 12 week online programme tailored to me. I'm into my 5th week now. Have had to complete change my diet and eating habits and I'm doing gym work five days a week, mainly cardio at the moment with some fully body high intensity stuff mixed in.

Was 13st 4lbs when I started and I'm now 11st 12.5. I'm absolutely made up tbh as I was getting an horrendous fat beer gut and I looked a total fucking mess.

Saveloy · 19-09-19, 09:37 PM

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I need to invest in some decent trainers tbh. I have been walking in Vans shoes. This week I changed from those I used the first week. Same model same size but this weeks shoes are just a little wider. Result, one little toe that looks like it has been raped by a rabid badger.

Managed another 20.3k yesterday

You walked 205km in 11 days in Vans?

You sir, are a psycho

Saveloy · 19-09-19, 09:40 PM

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I've been using a personal trainer on a 12 week online programme tailored to me. I'm into my 5th week now. Have had to complete change my diet and eating habits and I'm doing gym work five days a week, mainly cardio at the moment with some fully body high intensity stuff mixed in.

Was 13st 4lbs when I started and I'm now 11st 12.5. I'm absolutely made up tbh as I was getting an horrendous fat beer gut and I looked a total fucking mess.

Bloody hell Slinks. That's mightily impressive

Slinky Skills · 19-09-19, 10:22 PM

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Bloody hell Slinks. That's mightily impressive

Thanks mate! Bloody hard work I can tell you!

ChesterDave · 19-09-19, 10:37 PM

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Thanks mate! Bloody hard work I can tell you!

Good effort Slinks. Any solid tips? I'm not so much bothered about my weight but use it as an easy identifiable measure... I'm essentially on Operation Close Top Button!

I want to be able to fasten my top button on a shirt (15.5in) for the Christmas party. Wore a tie with top button open last year and felt dirty for it!

EwarWoo · 19-09-19, 11:06 PM

Great work slinks

Habits the hardest bit anyway, breaking the junk food habit and forming the excercise one. You're through that part

Amazing how much difference it makes, even slouching on the couch like a slob is better when you don't have fat on fat contact. Lol.

Slinky Skills · 20-09-19, 08:11 AM

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Assassin · 20-09-19, 08:19 AM

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You walked 205km in 11 days in Vans?

You sir, are a psycho

Its now 247km in 13 days

Weekend is here, time to relax a little

Alex · 20-09-19, 01:56 PM

That is bascially like walking coast to coast in the UK. Impressive work

EwarWoo · 27-09-19, 02:58 AM

Well, that ended prematurely. Knee pains been slowly getting worse so figured I should check with a doc instead of just pushing through, luckily my GP specialises in sports medicine.

All the years of babying my knees has left me with weak inner quads so my knees are off track when under pressure.

Going for an x-ray then will be referred to a physio and strict orders not to run until after. Can still walk and ride my bike at least.

Norbs · 27-09-19, 06:23 AM

I did say running was bad for you

EwarWoo · 27-09-19, 07:37 AM

I did say I never ran as I didn't think my knees would cope. Was silly enough to convince myself I was just making excuses

Way he was talking but I reckon I'll get some exercises and supports and I'll be right to kick off again. Hopefully. Ironically I'd just started to enjoy it even with the pain.

Norbs · 27-09-19, 08:16 AM

I was the same, wanted to love it but just kept getting niggling injuries in knees feet or ankles.

Have you thought about trail running? Speeds are much slower and trails are more cushioned than tarmac. Bounding through woods and puddles used more core muscles and wasn't as repetitive

EwarWoo · 27-09-19, 08:25 AM

I'm not fit enough. That kind of terrain is hard as f. Wouldn't mind trying it if I can get in shape but.

Actually live about 2k from a (gentle) mountain with trails up it

I've walked up it but runnings another thing.

Norbs · 27-09-19, 12:10 PM

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I'm not fit enough. That kind of terrain is hard as f. Wouldn't mind trying it if I can get in shape but.

Actually live about 2k from a (gentle) mountain with trails up it

I've walked up it but runnings another thing.

There's running and there's running though. I used to run approx 8:45mins per mile and that would drop to 10mins when I ran through the woods, and less than walking pace on any incline. I reckon you're probably fitter than I was then, and certainly fitter than I am now

Nicey · 27-09-19, 01:46 PM

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Cheers guys.

Was basically over 12 months I lost 37, had a pre diabetes scare so went from 137 to 100 dead mid Jan to end Nov last year. I lost track at Christmas, 5 weeks of hols with my dad over popped on 7kg and haven't got rid of it yet. It's harder to motivate the diet side when you don't feel unhealthy. Lol.

And yeah, just walking normal, but fast. I just keep pushing until my heart rates over 140 and sit there. 205k's in 11 days puts me to shame but. That's some serious distance.

F me ! thats good going mate, keep it up

Nicey · 27-09-19, 01:49 PM

Intermittent sprint running on the hamster machine is apparently great for burning fat ... sprint for 30 full pelt on 10 plus speed ... then 80 seconds rest rince and repeat ... and you only need 20 minutes of this to get big results puts you in a fat burning space for the rest of the day

Norbs · 27-09-19, 04:36 PM

Yeah, it's called HIT - high intensity training. Sounds too good to be true but haven't heard anyone disprove it

labourRed · 27-09-19, 07:54 PM

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Yeah, it's called HIT - high intensity training. Sounds too good to be true but haven't heard anyone disprove it

Well, HIIT it's great. Second only to weight training for weight loss. Or combine it like evil 8complexes.

Any exercise that suits the individual is great though, of course. Whatever floats your boat.

Today I filled an eight tonne skip with building rubble and a hedge. Functional fitness.