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Old 02-12-18, 12:32 PM   #8321
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Regardless of a persons past or my dislike for them in a personal capacity - I can take no pleasure in someone being seriously injured or permanently maimed in a boxing ring.

Everyone knows the risks going in, but no one wants that to happen or deserves that. As the worst welterweight in the world in my younger days, I would assume no fighter wants to seriously hurt an opponent either.
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Old 02-12-18, 12:38 PM   #8322
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Regardless of a persons past or my dislike for them in a personal capacity - I can take no pleasure in someone being seriously injured or permanently maimed in a boxing ring.

Everyone knows the risks going in, but no one wants that to happen or deserves that. As the worst welterweight in the world in my younger days, I would assume no fighter wants to seriously hurt an opponent either.



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Old 02-12-18, 12:42 PM   #8323
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Did not watch the fight last night, but just finished watching it in full after managing to avoid the result when I got up.


Surprised it was scored a draw tbh, even with Wilder getting a pair of 10-8 rounds.

For me the 10-8 rounds made it closer on the score cards, however even with them I had Fury winning 114 - 112
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Old 02-12-18, 12:49 PM   #8324
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What rounds did you give to Wilder besides round 9 and 12?
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Old 02-12-18, 01:23 PM   #8325
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What rounds did you give to Wilder besides round 9 and 12?

1 and 6. Fury won the other 8 rounds imo.
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Old 02-12-18, 01:52 PM   #8326
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I had it the same as you but with round 4 even so 114-113.
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Old 02-12-18, 02:05 PM   #8327
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If I was Eddie Hearn I would make it a condition that the Joshua v Wilder fight takes place in this country. He'll have massive doubts like us all that if the fight was to happen in the US and goes to the scorecards, Wilder will get it irrespective of how Joshua performs on the night. I still cannot get over the Mexicans scorecard.
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Old 02-12-18, 02:09 PM   #8328
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If I was Eddie Hearn I would make it a condition that the Joshua v Wilder fight takes place in this country. He'll have massive doubts like us all that if the fight was to happen in the US and goes to the scorecards, Wilder will get it irrespective of how Joshua performs on the night. I still cannot get over the Mexicans scorecard.



Would be stunned if Joshua vs Wilder was a fight that went to the scorecards.
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Old 02-12-18, 02:12 PM   #8329
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Would be stunned if Joshua vs Wilder was a fight that went to the scorecards.
I would too but you just never know
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Old 02-12-18, 02:17 PM   #8330
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I would too but you just never know


True you never know in boxing, but Joshua imo would be more inclined to get into a fight at some point than to try and out box or smother Wilder.

So on that basis I would see Wilder landing more than he did aganst Fury, but would also imagine that Wilder would be hit more often (and cleaner) than against Fury.
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Old 02-12-18, 02:26 PM   #8331
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True you never know in boxing, but Joshua imo would be more inclined to get into a fight at some point than to try and out box or smother Wilder.

So on that basis I would see Wilder landing more than he did aganst Fury, but would also imagine that Wilder would be hit more often (and cleaner) than against Fury.
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Old 02-12-18, 02:42 PM   #8332
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If I was Eddie Hearn I would make it a condition that the Joshua v Wilder fight takes place in this country. He'll have massive doubts like us all that if the fight was to happen in the US and goes to the scorecards, Wilder will get it irrespective of how Joshua performs on the night. I still cannot get over the Mexicans scorecard.
The scoring on Matchroom cards is equally as horrific as what we'd witnessed last night.

Only reason the fight would be in the UK is money, nothing else.
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Old 02-12-18, 03:05 PM   #8333
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If I was Eddie Hearn I would make it a condition that the Joshua v Wilder fight takes place in this country. He'll have massive doubts like us all that if the fight was to happen in the US and goes to the scorecards, Wilder will get it irrespective of how Joshua performs on the night. I still cannot get over the Mexicans scorecard.
Scorecards are always an issue. I wouldn't conclusively say it will make a difference. Money talks more than anything else. Regardless, be it Wilder or not, Joshua is due in the US. He should be making more of a name for himself there.

I didn't watch the fight, only saw the highlights so I can't really comment - I've seen some people say that a draw isn't beyond the realms of reality. It doesn't sound like a Canelo job.

World championship bouts are still taking place in Germany, we all know what it's like for away fighters there.
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Old 02-12-18, 03:07 PM   #8334
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It was a Canelo job. Granted there were two knockdowns but Wilder was schooled the entire fight. I’ve never been a massive Fury fan but he deserved the win there by a 3 maybe 4 point margin.

Wilder has a big right apart from that he’s incredibly limited as a boxer
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It was a Canelo job. Granted there were two knockdowns but Wilder was schooled the entire fight. Iíve never been a massive Fury fan but he deserved the win there by a 3 maybe 4 point margin.

Wilder has a big right apart from that heís incredibly limited as a boxer
Can't really comment as I didn't watch the fight, just some highlights, but in America many judges look for aggression and forcing action or at least throwing big punches. Fury's tapping punches may hardly register. Not really correct for determining a fight but there is a theory that it's pro boxing and that means forceful punching and doing damage.
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Old 02-12-18, 03:18 PM   #8336
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Well I can only assume the Mexican judge was counting Wilder hitting fresh air as scoring hits in the first 5 rounds as Wilder landed fuck all.

Too many examples in boxing of bad judging which is a shame. Wilder & Fury will be happy enough as will the promoters as this will happen again with a likely bigger pay day on offer
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Well I can only assume the Mexican judge was counting Wilder hitting fresh air as scoring hits in the first 5 rounds as Wilder landed fuck all.

Too many examples in boxing of bad judging which is a shame. Wilder & Fury will be happy enough as will the promoters as this will happen again with a likely bigger pay day on offer







One judge scored it the same as I did which was 114-112 in favour of Fury, which when the two knockdown are taken into account I think is a fair reflection of the fight.

The judge that scored it 113 -113 basically saw one of the close 10-9 Fury rounds as a Wilder round and so turned the 114 -112 into 113 -113 so that was not crazy judging either.


The only judge that was way way off imo was the Mexican judge. Have no idea what fight he was watching as his scoring did not seem to reflect was was happening in certain rounds as he gave rounds to Wilder in which Wilder was not throwing much, not landing much, and also not avoiding much. His scoring was just way off of what I saw and also off what the other two judges saw. To be honest his scoring stank of either incompetence or extreme bias.
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Old 03-12-18, 01:55 AM   #8338
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I was always backing AJ to beat Wilder but after last night I think Wilder would knock him out. Wilder just seems to throw the big bombs and I just can’t see AJ showing the skill and movement Fury did to avoid those punches. Tyson as much as used to dislike him is in my eyes the best boxer in that division
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Old 03-12-18, 03:52 PM   #8339
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I was out on Saturday night and fuckin missed it - anyone have a link to the full fight?
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Old 04-12-18, 01:26 AM   #8340
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Old 04-12-18, 09:22 AM   #8341
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Cheers. I can't find the full fight either.
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Old 04-12-18, 06:49 PM   #8342
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russian like so prob get hacked but still

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Haha cheers mate, ace. Will watch after the City game tonight.
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Old 05-12-18, 05:43 AM   #8345
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Markus Beyer passed away, only 47
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Only 47 years of age.


Saw him beat Richie Woodhall for the WBC belt in Telford years back. Was a tidy boxer in his time.
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Old 16-12-18, 01:12 AM   #8347
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Moreno vs Alisson, surely going to take his head off within 3?
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Old 16-12-18, 09:59 AM   #8348
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Fielding will be pissing blood for a while after those body shots

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Old 16-12-18, 02:45 PM   #8349
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Struggle to comprehend Fielding's tactics. I know he's a lower level of fighter, but he was fighting 'short'. Shocker. He was a punching bag in there.

Parker won by KO this weekend too. He'll no doubt be looking for the winner of Chisora vs Whyte. Other than that, there's not too much to look forward to the rest of this year. Jan should be good though, pretty busy calendar.
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Old 16-12-18, 11:06 PM   #8350
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Struggle to comprehend Fielding's tactics. I know he's a lower level of fighter, but he was fighting 'short'. Shocker. He was a punching bag in there.

Parker won by KO this weekend too. He'll no doubt be looking for the winner of Chisora vs Whyte. Other than that, there's not too much to look forward to the rest of this year. Jan should be good though, pretty busy calendar.


Yeah he was, and made no attempt at all to change that when Canelo started landing to the body with ease.

He had a 4 to 5 inch reach advantage, stands about 4 inches taller than Canelo and has a higher centre of gravity yet no jabbing game, no attempt at sustained leaning, no grabbing/clinching. He just did nothing to make things awkward for Canelo.

Watching Fielding, he looked like a guy leaving himself wide open for the same shots over and over so that it would be ended quick and without any hard shots to the head.
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Yeah he was, and made no attempt at all to change that when Canelo started landing to the body with ease.

He had a 4 to 5 inch reach advantage, stands about 4 inches taller than Canelo and has a higher centre of gravity yet no jabbing game, no attempt at sustained leaning, no grabbing/clinching. He just did nothing to make things awkward for Canelo.

Watching Fielding, he looked like a guy leaving himself wide open for the same shots over and over so that it would be ended quick and without any hard shots to the head.
No idea why he didn't get on his bike a bit and control the distance then execute a jab, jab, grab plan. If he fought a bit smarter he could have potentially have gone the distance without sustaining a beating. Those hooks to the body were sickening. Seemingly intentionally sitting on the ropes was just strange altogether, I don't think Canelo could believe his luck. I would expect better from Jamie Moore.
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Old 23-12-18, 12:25 AM   #8352
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Be a good fight this, but PPV again ffs. Another total piss take.

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Be a good fight this, but PPV again ffs. Another total piss take.

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Agreed PPV is a pisstake for this. Would have been a great undercard fight on a Joshua Wembley PPV
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How does he keep getting these fights.
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How does he keep getting these fights.


Would imagine because he is seen as having marquee value to hype an event and also in terms of looking good on the other fighter's record, but without bringing the level of threat a genuine top fighter would.


At best it will go like the Canelo fight for him.
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Khan will definitely get stopped (probably beaten up too) in devastating fashion again. Maybe the style of fight will suit him more, because it could be quick and frantic but Crawford has too much quality. He'll time Khan sooner or later and it won't end well.

The Broner - Pacquiao fight has crept up on us. Not too interested in this one personally, but Broner has to win. If he loses it'll take him years to gain any kind of credibility again. A real crossroads fight for him. Manny should be done but he'll probably have another 5 fights minimum at this rate. It's a weird one stylistically, especially where they are now. Wouldn't be surprised if Manny can use his feet to get in and out enough to win on points.
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Pretty big shock, Linares stopped in the first by Cano. Cano dropped him, then bulldozed through. Not sure where to for Linares now, great fighter, but has a shocker like this every now and then which ruins his reputation. He's still relatively young and there are good fights left for him, but he can't lose to this kind of opposition again. It'll take him a while to rebuild. Obviously much much better, but he's a bit like Khan in regard to the way he can't walk away from a fight. He trusts his smooth style and quick hands to get him out of any situation even after getting caught. I can't believe he stood infront of Cano and tried to box him after that first knock down. Should have been clinching and on his bike where possible to see the round out. That naivety cost him dearly. Still has a load to offer the sport, but after this loss, no one will want to go near him because the risk vs reward doesn't add up.

It's often said that the gap between light welterweight to welterweight is the biggest leap in the sport - but I don't think that lightweight to light welter is too different.

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