Philippe Coutinho Post-LFC - Page 11

Maxiedge · 11-01-19, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spud_gun

Eh....not fucking chance.

Anyone who refuses to play for us can get fucked for eternity. Irrespective of how good they are / were.

Mascharano is in the same boat. Never understood the love for him after he refused to play for us and forced his way out the club.

It's not so black and white though is it? He did feign back injury (allegedly) to force a move but when he came back and played, the Fab 4 happened. We don't know the pressure he was under from Barca/family at the time. He certainly seemed conflicted.

If he did agree to come back, wouldn't any previous vitriol be bygone? Would you not be willing to forgive him? I think it's something that could work for everyone involved. Only issue would be the family and whether they would back.

spud_gun · 11-01-19, 01:11 PM

Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.

Zapater · 11-01-19, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spud_gun

Eh....not fucking chance.

Anyone who refuses to play for us can get fucked for eternity. Irrespective of how good they are / were.

Mascharano is in the same boat. Never understood the love for him after he refused to play for us and forced his way out the club.

Unique circumstances. Torres explained it quite well in an interview a while back. Everyone was leaving, promises made were broken. Konchesky and Woy should say more than enough. I blame the club for those, not the players.

Coutinho is a bit different, but would want him back at a cut price deal if available. The squad would undoubtedly be better with him in it than not.

spud_gun · 11-01-19, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapater

Unique circumstances. Torres explained it quite well in an interview a while back. Everyone was leaving, promises made were broken. Konchesky and Woy should say more than enough. I blame the club for those, not the players.

Coutinho is a bit different, but would want him back at a cut price deal if available. The squad would undoubtedly be better with him in it than not.

Unless the club were witholding his wages then there was no justification.

The situation with the club back then was chaotic agreed.

Irrespective it's unforgivable to take money from the club and then refuse to play.

Zapater · 11-01-19, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spud_gun

Unless the club were witholding his wages then there was no justification.

The situation with the club back then was chaotic agreed.

Irrespective it's unforgivable to take money from the club and then refuse to play.

We won the CL and Gerrard put a transfer request to goto Chelsea of all places. I know he did a U-turn but I don't see any real difference between to the two situations. History could have turned out very differently. Wouldn't have been forgiven if it were any other player.

spud_gun · 11-01-19, 01:47 PM

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We won the CL and Gerrard put a transfer request to goto Chelsea of all places. I know he did a U-turn but I don't see any real difference between to the two situations. History could have turned out very differently. Wouldn't have been forgiven if it were any other player.

You don't see a difference between putting in a transfer request and refusing to play for the club?

We'll just end the discussion here then

Resu · 11-01-19, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spud_gun

Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.

I`m a bit thorn in cases like this. In one way I agree with you, but I`m a believer in giving people a second chance. If he comes back relatively soon, holds up his hands and says "Sorry, I was wrong" I would probably accept it.

dom9 · 11-01-19, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spud_gun

Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.

Would you prefer him to go to United?

baitman · 11-01-19, 02:49 PM

Coutinho said he wanted to go to barca, wanted to get cuddles from uncle suarez and live in the sun, so he can fuckin rot...
If he ever came back to the uk then hes even more of a fuckin liar than he was before.

foresterbloke · 11-01-19, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dom9

Would you prefer him to go to United?

I'd prefer it if he went to China!

labourRed · 11-01-19, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baitman

Coutinho said he wanted to go to barca, wanted to get cuddles from uncle suarez and live in the sun, so he can fuckin rot...
If he ever came back to the uk then hes even more of a fuckin liar than he was before.

There's no talk of him wanting to, barca wouldn't mind it though from the sounds of it.

He said the only club he'd ever leave us for was Barca, and to be fair there's the brazilian history there so i can see what it meant.

You'd be right if he went to the mancs it'd be treachery of the highest degree.

Personally, i'd take him back, he'd be amazing in our front four.

Phoenix07 · 11-01-19, 03:32 PM

Klopp likes to have players who he feels he can improve further. Apparently, that's part of the reason why he never went for the likes of Aubameyang, Reus etc. I can't remember where I read that (was it the Honigstein book?) He'd already worked with them, and got what he could from them. Working with them again wouldn't have been right for him. I think it's the same with Coutinho.

labourRed · 11-01-19, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix07

Klopp likes to have players who he feels he can improve further. Apparently, that's part of the reason why he never went for the likes of Aubameyang, Reus etc. I can't remember where I read that (was it the Honigstein book?) He'd already worked with them, and got what he could from them. Working with them again wouldn't have been right for him. I think it's the same with Coutinho.

No idea what the thinking or lack of was, but Aubameyang would have excelled in our team. Silly money though IIRC.

Pablo · 11-01-19, 04:02 PM

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No idea what the thinking or lack of was, but Aubameyang would have excelled in our team. Silly money though IIRC.

He cost them £56m according to Wikipedia.

He's 30 this year so it was a bit of a short term buy.

With 26 goals in 40 appearances so far it's hard to argue it hasn't worked out well for them though.

I'd have taken him!

Phoenix07 · 11-01-19, 04:41 PM

Found the quotes. Make up your own minds on it (Regarding Mkhitaryan).

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“I had that player,” Klopp said in July 2016. “If you have had players, you know more about them. You want to learn about other players. That's how it is.

“I knew quite early that he was going this way (to Old Trafford). There was absolutely no reason for me to jump in there. That isn’t how we work.

“We didn’t look for players we had already worked with. If you do that, you know their good, their bad and you wonder whether you will do it again.

“It’s not boring but you know everything about each other so how can you develop? Where is the next step? Where is the next push for development?

“We could have gone for a lot of players. But, first of all, you have to think: what do I need?”

This does not always stand up to scrutiny, of course. That same summer, Klopp tried to reunite with Mario Gotze, who ended up leaving Bayern Munich to return to Dortmund.

Talks were held with the Germany international but with the Reds unable to offer Champions League football, Gotze wouldn't commit and wanted to keep his options open until after Euro 2016.

Klopp ended the club's pursuit and completed a £30million deal for Sadio Mane instead.

Klopp is also a keen admirer of Christian Pulisic, although the American did not make his first-team debut at Dortmund until the season after Klopp's departure from Westfalenstadion.

Yet the Liverpool boss' words should be heeded. Familiarity might not necessarily breed contempt, but it certainly does not guarantee the desire to be reunited.

If anything, it makes it all the more unlikely.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...eyang-14200909

Pablo · 11-01-19, 04:48 PM

Thank fuck we went for Mane instead of Gotze

McDermotX · 11-01-19, 04:49 PM

Chelsea (or ManU at an outside bet) for this lad.

Should go down splendidly round these parts.

Norbs · 11-01-19, 05:10 PM

Funniest part about this is like fuck he'd want to come back to is anyway

danperkins · 11-01-19, 05:28 PM

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Funniest part about this is like fuck he'd want to come back to is anyway

Maxiedge · 11-01-19, 10:17 PM

Yes true, but I did see pictures of him back to visit Moreno and Firmino so there’s obviously some sentiment there.

Might be the only reason to keep Moreno

Exiled_red · 12-01-19, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Norbs

Funniest part about this is like fuck he'd want to come back to is anyway

To us or to England in general?

foresterbloke · 12-01-19, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Exiled_red

To us or to England in general?

To us I assume.

Norbs · 12-01-19, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Exiled_red

To us or to England in general?

To us, think he'd try London though if the money was enough but realistically he's destined for PSG

cannotmakeit · 12-01-19, 04:17 AM

Loan here for the rest of the season could work!

Yozza · 13-01-19, 01:44 PM

Barcelona & Philippe Coutinho: What's gone wrong for the Brazilian in Spain?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46853050

Fredo · 13-01-19, 02:14 PM

Is there a chance he ends up at United?

baitman · 13-01-19, 02:33 PM

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Is there a chance he ends up at United?

Maxiedge · 13-01-19, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredo

Is there a chance he ends up at United?

Haha not United. I don’t think he would do that to us.

If he did leave, in the PL it could be Chelsea but my money would be on him joining his mate at PSG

Nicey · 13-01-19, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxiedge

Haha not United. I don’t think he would do that to us.

If he did leave, in the PL it could be Chelsea but my money would be on him joining his mate at PSG

Anything is possible in Football

Leyton388 · 13-01-19, 05:57 PM

Let's get him back in. They still owe us a fuck ton of money for him so let's come to an agreement and get him back in. Could really help us go to another gear and put the league to bed.

dom9 · 13-01-19, 07:25 PM

He's started today. If anyone is interested.

rodo · 13-01-19, 08:07 PM

first barca goal was ridiculous oh and messi just scored his 400th barca goal

cream · 13-01-19, 08:54 PM

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He's started today. If anyone is interested.

Was fantastic today.

Irishnev · 23-01-19, 11:34 PM

Sevilla beat Barca 2 nil in the first leg of the Copa del Rey game tonight - Phil getting scapegoated now.

Last edited by Irishnev; 23-01-19 at 11:47 PM.

baitman · 24-01-19, 12:10 AM

Fuckin hell hes gone to dogshit.

Ben yedder please.

Norbs · 24-01-19, 12:16 AM

My heart bleeds

labourRed · 24-01-19, 12:29 AM

I don't hanker after any Seville players but that ball by Benega was beautiful.

baitman · 24-01-19, 12:36 AM

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I don't hanker after any Seville players but that ball by Benega was beautiful.

Ball player, have a look at Leandro Paredes.

Irishnev · 24-01-19, 08:31 AM

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Ball player, have a look at Leandro Paredes.

Joining PSG apparently

pezzzer · 28-01-19, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Leyton388

Let's get him back in. They still owe us a fuck ton of money for him so let's come to an agreement and get him back in. Could really help us go to another gear and put the league to bed.

I'm pretty sure we made them pay 140 mil upfront for him mate, there nuts were in the vice at the time