11-01-19, 12:41 PM
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#401
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Shankly
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Originally Posted by spud_gun
Eh....not fucking chance.
Anyone who refuses to play for us can get fucked for eternity. Irrespective of how good they are / were.
Mascharano is in the same boat. Never understood the love for him after he refused to play for us and forced his way out the club.
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It's not so black and white though is it? He did feign back injury (allegedly) to force a move but when he came back and played, the Fab 4 happened. We don't know the pressure he was under from Barca/family at the time. He certainly seemed conflicted.
If he did agree to come back, wouldn't any previous vitriol be bygone? Would you not be willing to forgive him? I think it's something that could work for everyone involved. Only issue would be the family and whether they would back.
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11-01-19, 01:11 PM
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#402
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Paisley
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.
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11-01-19, 01:31 PM
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Dalglish
Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
Eh....not fucking chance.
Anyone who refuses to play for us can get fucked for eternity. Irrespective of how good they are / were.
Mascharano is in the same boat. Never understood the love for him after he refused to play for us and forced his way out the club.
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Unique circumstances. Torres explained it quite well in an interview a while back. Everyone was leaving, promises made were broken. Konchesky and Woy should say more than enough. I blame the club for those, not the players.
Coutinho is a bit different, but would want him back at a cut price deal if available. The squad would undoubtedly be better with him in it than not.
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11-01-19, 01:35 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Originally Posted by Zapater
Unique circumstances. Torres explained it quite well in an interview a while back. Everyone was leaving, promises made were broken. Konchesky and Woy should say more than enough. I blame the club for those, not the players.
Coutinho is a bit different, but would want him back at a cut price deal if available. The squad would undoubtedly be better with him in it than not.
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Unless the club were witholding his wages then there was no justification.
The situation with the club back then was chaotic agreed.
Irrespective it's unforgivable to take money from the club and then refuse to play.
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11-01-19, 01:38 PM
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Dalglish
Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
Unless the club were witholding his wages then there was no justification.
The situation with the club back then was chaotic agreed.
Irrespective it's unforgivable to take money from the club and then refuse to play.
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We won the CL and Gerrard put a transfer request to goto Chelsea of all places. I know he did a U-turn but I don't see any real difference between to the two situations. History could have turned out very differently. Wouldn't have been forgiven if it were any other player.
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11-01-19, 01:47 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zapater
We won the CL and Gerrard put a transfer request to goto Chelsea of all places. I know he did a U-turn but I don't see any real difference between to the two situations. History could have turned out very differently. Wouldn't have been forgiven if it were any other player.
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You don't see a difference between putting in a transfer request and refusing to play for the club?
We'll just end the discussion here then
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11-01-19, 02:04 PM
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Dalglish
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.
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I`m a bit thorn in cases like this. In one way I agree with you, but I`m a believer in giving people a second chance. If he comes back relatively soon, holds up his hands and says "Sorry, I was wrong" I would probably accept it.
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11-01-19, 02:41 PM
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Ant Pisser
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.
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Would you prefer him to go to United?
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11-01-19, 02:49 PM
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Daddy day care
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Coutinho said he wanted to go to barca, wanted to get cuddles from uncle suarez and live in the sun, so he can fuckin rot...
If he ever came back to the uk then hes even more of a fuckin liar than he was before.
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11-01-19, 02:52 PM
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Run the Jewels 
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dom9
Would you prefer him to go to United?
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I'd prefer it if he went to China!
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11-01-19, 02:53 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 7,330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baitman
Coutinho said he wanted to go to barca, wanted to get cuddles from uncle suarez and live in the sun, so he can fuckin rot...
If he ever came back to the uk then hes even more of a fuckin liar than he was before.
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There's no talk of him wanting to, barca wouldn't mind it though from the sounds of it.
He said the only club he'd ever leave us for was Barca, and to be fair there's the brazilian history there so i can see what it meant.
You'd be right if he went to the mancs it'd be treachery of the highest degree.
Personally, i'd take him back, he'd be amazing in our front four.
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11-01-19, 03:32 PM
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The Normal One
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Klopp likes to have players who he feels he can improve further. Apparently, that's part of the reason why he never went for the likes of Aubameyang, Reus etc. I can't remember where I read that (was it the Honigstein book?) He'd already worked with them, and got what he could from them. Working with them again wouldn't have been right for him. I think it's the same with Coutinho.
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11-01-19, 03:43 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix07
Klopp likes to have players who he feels he can improve further. Apparently, that's part of the reason why he never went for the likes of Aubameyang, Reus etc. I can't remember where I read that (was it the Honigstein book?) He'd already worked with them, and got what he could from them. Working with them again wouldn't have been right for him. I think it's the same with Coutinho.
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No idea what the thinking or lack of was, but Aubameyang would have excelled in our team. Silly money though IIRC.
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11-01-19, 04:02 PM
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Anti-Antipodeanite
Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by labourRed
No idea what the thinking or lack of was, but Aubameyang would have excelled in our team. Silly money though IIRC.
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He cost them £56m according to Wikipedia.
He's 30 this year so it was a bit of a short term buy.
With 26 goals in 40 appearances so far it's hard to argue it hasn't worked out well for them though.
I'd have taken him!
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11-01-19, 04:41 PM
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The Normal One
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Found the quotes. Make up your own minds on it (Regarding Mkhitaryan).
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“I had that player,” Klopp said in July 2016. “If you have had players, you know more about them. You want to learn about other players. That's how it is.
“I knew quite early that he was going this way (to Old Trafford). There was absolutely no reason for me to jump in there. That isn’t how we work.
“We didn’t look for players we had already worked with. If you do that, you know their good, their bad and you wonder whether you will do it again.
“It’s not boring but you know everything about each other so how can you develop? Where is the next step? Where is the next push for development?
“We could have gone for a lot of players. But, first of all, you have to think: what do I need?”
This does not always stand up to scrutiny, of course. That same summer, Klopp tried to reunite with Mario Gotze, who ended up leaving Bayern Munich to return to Dortmund.
Talks were held with the Germany international but with the Reds unable to offer Champions League football, Gotze wouldn't commit and wanted to keep his options open until after Euro 2016.
Klopp ended the club's pursuit and completed a £30million deal for Sadio Mane instead.
Klopp is also a keen admirer of Christian Pulisic, although the American did not make his first-team debut at Dortmund until the season after Klopp's departure from Westfalenstadion.
Yet the Liverpool boss' words should be heeded. Familiarity might not necessarily breed contempt, but it certainly does not guarantee the desire to be reunited.
If anything, it makes it all the more unlikely.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...eyang-14200909
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11-01-19, 04:48 PM
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#416
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Anti-Antipodeanite
Join Date: May 2007
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Thank fuck we went for Mane instead of Gotze
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11-01-19, 04:49 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 30,249
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Chelsea (or ManU at an outside bet) for this lad.
Should go down splendidly round these parts.
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11-01-19, 05:10 PM
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#418
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Funniest part about this is like fuck he'd want to come back to is anyway
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11-01-19, 05:28 PM
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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norbs
Funniest part about this is like fuck he'd want to come back to is anyway 
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11-01-19, 10:17 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,786
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 Yes true, but I did see pictures of him back to visit Moreno and Firmino so there’s obviously some sentiment there.
Might be the only reason to keep Moreno
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12-01-19, 12:03 AM
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Paisley
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norbs
Funniest part about this is like fuck he'd want to come back to is anyway 
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To us or to England in general?
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12-01-19, 12:08 AM
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Run the Jewels 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exiled_red
To us or to England in general?
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To us I assume.
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12-01-19, 12:16 AM
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#423
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exiled_red
To us or to England in general?
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To us, think he'd try London though if the money was enough but realistically he's destined for PSG
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12-01-19, 04:17 AM
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#424
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Fagan
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Loan here for the rest of the season could work!
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13-01-19, 01:44 PM
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#425
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Shankly
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,594
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Barcelona & Philippe Coutinho: What's gone wrong for the Brazilian in Spain?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46853050
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13-01-19, 02:14 PM
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Not to be taken seriously
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Is there a chance he ends up at United?
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13-01-19, 02:33 PM
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Daddy day care
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredo
Is there a chance he ends up at United?
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13-01-19, 02:38 PM
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#428
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Shankly
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredo
Is there a chance he ends up at United?
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Haha not United. I don’t think he would do that to us.
If he did leave, in the PL it could be Chelsea but my money would be on him joining his mate at PSG
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13-01-19, 02:48 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiedge
Haha not United. I don’t think he would do that to us.
If he did leave, in the PL it could be Chelsea but my money would be on him joining his mate at PSG
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Anything is possible in Football
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13-01-19, 05:57 PM
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aka liverpooltj
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Let's get him back in. They still owe us a fuck ton of money for him so let's come to an agreement and get him back in. Could really help us go to another gear and put the league to bed.
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13-01-19, 07:25 PM
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#431
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Ant Pisser
Join Date: Aug 2006
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He's started today. If anyone is interested.
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13-01-19, 08:07 PM
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#432
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Shankly
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first barca goal was ridiculous oh and messi just scored his 400th barca goal
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13-01-19, 08:54 PM
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#433
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Paisley
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 12,017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dom9
He's started today. If anyone is interested.
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Was fantastic today.
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23-01-19, 11:34 PM
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#434
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Shankly
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,740
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Sevilla beat Barca 2 nil in the first leg of the Copa del Rey game tonight - Phil getting scapegoated now.
Last edited by Irishnev; 23-01-19 at 11:47 PM.
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24-01-19, 12:10 AM
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#435
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Daddy day care
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Fuckin hell hes gone to dogshit.
Ben yedder please.
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☆☆☆☆☆☆ Champions of Europe. removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all, but not VVD or Alisson
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24-01-19, 12:16 AM
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#436
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
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My heart bleeds
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24-01-19, 12:29 AM
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Shankly
Join Date: Jun 2015
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I don't hanker after any Seville players but that ball by Benega was beautiful.
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24-01-19, 12:36 AM
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Daddy day care
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Quote:
Originally Posted by labourRed
I don't hanker after any Seville players but that ball by Benega was beautiful.
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Ball player, have a look at Leandro Paredes.
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☆☆☆☆☆☆ Champions of Europe. removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all, but not VVD or Alisson
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24-01-19, 08:31 AM
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#439
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Shankly
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baitman
Ball player, have a look at Leandro Paredes.
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Joining PSG apparently
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28-01-19, 04:30 PM
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#440
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Sony ftw!
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leyton388
Let's get him back in. They still owe us a fuck ton of money for him so let's come to an agreement and get him back in. Could really help us go to another gear and put the league to bed.
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I'm pretty sure we made them pay 140 mil upfront for him mate, there nuts were in the vice at the time
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