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Old 27-10-19, 10:30 AM   #4001
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It’s like watching a game from the mid 90s.
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Old 27-10-19, 10:38 AM   #4002
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I don’t think I’ve seen either team go through more than 5 phases.
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Old 27-10-19, 10:49 AM   #4003
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No way could he play on.
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Old 27-10-19, 10:51 AM   #4004
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My god what a dreadful half. Think the ref has been pretty poor. Few forward passes and High tackles missed

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Old 27-10-19, 10:52 AM   #4005
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Half time.

Nothing in it. SA have a bit more muscle but the tactics of both teams creating a dull stalemate.

England will fear nothing on show here.
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Old 27-10-19, 10:53 AM   #4006
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Two awful teams who play a turgid style of rugby, England have a bye in a world cup final, not bad!
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Old 27-10-19, 11:08 AM   #4007
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Wales seem to have altered tactics and are now kicking even more. Every ball is getting kicked.

First decent kick of the match by Pollard there. Comes to nothing.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:10 AM   #4008
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Old 27-10-19, 11:18 AM   #4009
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The box kicking is never ending but almost every kick is terrible.

Knock on. Scrum. Carry, carry, kick.Knock on. Scrum. Etc
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Old 27-10-19, 11:25 AM   #4010
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Finally.

Deserved I’d say. SA showing slightly more ambition. Poor defence from Wales.

Wales have to show a bit more now.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:27 AM   #4011
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Slightly more ambition is not saying much !

If we play anything like we did yesterday we should have too much for either of these sides
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Old 27-10-19, 11:34 AM   #4012
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Slightly more ambition is not saying much !

If we play anything like we did yesterday we should have too much for either of these sides
100%

Any team that plays so 1 dimensionally should lose.

It’s focus for England.

On balance I’d imagine SA will prove a bigger obstacle.

....Try time for Wales. Should make for a decent last 15. Massive conversion though.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:35 AM   #4013
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I dunno, the Welsh have had our number recently.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:35 AM   #4014
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16 all.

Game on. Fair play to the Welsh, typically strong response to adversity.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:36 AM   #4015
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I dunno, the Welsh have had our number recently.
Yeah, thatís definitely a thing to worry about

I never think they look good at all. But they keep on winning.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:39 AM   #4016
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Dan Biggar goes off and game instantly improves.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:44 AM   #4017
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Massive turn over.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:50 AM   #4018
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Wales have blown it.

Will be frustrating for them. If they’d shown more ambition earlier...
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Old 27-10-19, 11:50 AM   #4019
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Yup, this SA side isn’t great and that little prick of a scrum half in the refs ear all game
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Old 27-10-19, 11:52 AM   #4020
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SA just about deserved that.

Shocking game though.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:53 AM   #4021
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The DG attempt they fashioned for Patchell

Was miles out. They should have hung on to the ball.
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Old 27-10-19, 11:54 AM   #4022
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Yeah the DG attempt wasn’t set well and there was a chance for more phases.

Right just got to hope we turn up next Saturday and batted this lot
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Old 27-10-19, 12:31 PM   #4023
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3-4 play offs are pointless in most sports. But in a physical game like RU I just don’t see the point.
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Old 27-10-19, 12:34 PM   #4024
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Nether team wants to play that game and Wales will barely have a team to put out.
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Old 27-10-19, 01:40 PM   #4025
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As predicted an absolutely awful game, but who cares. And despite the close score, I think SA controlled the game well and should have forced more penalties. Handling was abysmal. When de Allende scored, I think Joburg erupted. Think that must be the most noise I've heard here outside of the Wanderers or Ellis Park. Not sure if I mentioned it before, but I almost got into a fight with de Allende in a Cape Town bar in 2014. He was just coming through for the Stormers then. Don't really rate him, but he was the hero today.

The est-proclaimed best team ever Wales was defeated. Looking forward to next week. 95, 07, 19. Would be a lovely sequence. England are better, but will know they're in for a massively aggressive game which the Boks will rise for.

Good call, Nev on your predictions of England and then SA, things could play out exactly how you predicted.
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Old 27-10-19, 01:44 PM   #4026
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Wales spoiler tactics didn’t work today.

I don’t think anyone particularly rates them they just seem to have a knack of getting a result.

The big thing for England is can they match or better yesterday? That performance will have taken a lot out of them mentally and physically. Can they go again?

We know SA can play better than we saw today.
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Old 27-10-19, 01:55 PM   #4027
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Marx also needs to start, scrum is a million times better with him on the pitch and he gains crucial metres. He is effective coming on late, but the team is better with him on the pitch.

Will be good to have Kolbe back next week too.

Hate the brand of rugby that is being played, but Rassie has done a wonderful job with this group considering where Meyer and Coetzee left SA rugby in a diabolical state. In minimal time he's taken the hardest job in the game and is excelling. He promised a final and delivered it.
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Old 27-10-19, 02:04 PM   #4028
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The extra day's rest is going to be useful for England I think.

SA today went back to where they are comfortable whereas they've shown in the last year that they can play dynamic rugby.

I sense next week they will stick with old style SA rugby again but who knows. Maybe they'll think EJ will anticipate the same and go back to something more expansive?

I'm not sure England can play as well as they did yesterday two weeks on the trot but if they can then they are going to be tough to beat.
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Old 27-10-19, 03:42 PM   #4029
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Anyway, enough of this World Cup shite. The real performance of the weekend was at Murrayfield.

Edinburgh mauled Scarlets 46-7.

A few new players kicking about and I was particularly impressed by SA hooker Mike Willemse, who on that form (2 try’s, immaculate throwing) will give McInally some problems getting back into the 15.

3 easy finishes for Duhan Van Der Merwe in an emphatic win, without any of the internationals.

Mark Bennett and Matt Scott the 2015 centre partnership for Scotland both looking low they still have something to offer having both arrived into the new season fully fit.

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Old 28-10-19, 09:40 PM   #4030
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Old 28-10-19, 09:41 PM   #4031
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Anyway, enough of this World Cup shite. The real performance of the weekend was at Murrayfield.

Edinburgh mauled Scarlets 46-7.

A few new players kicking about and I was particularly impressed by SA hooker Mike Willemse, who on that form (2 tryís, immaculate throwing) will give McInally some problems getting back into the 15.

3 easy finishes for Duhan Van Der Merwe in an emphatic win, without any of the internationals.

Mark Bennett and Matt Scott the 2015 centre partnership for Scotland both looking low they still have something to offer having both arrived into the new season fully fit.

Yes quite

Of more interest to the English on here (well me anyway); how did Hogg get on?

I'm just back from Cyprus so not quite up to speed with any rugby other than the WC, but I noticed he'd started his first premiership game at the weekend?
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Old 28-10-19, 10:38 PM   #4032
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Of more interest to the English on here (well me anyway); how did Hogg get on?

I'm just back from Cyprus so not quite up to speed with any rugby other than the WC, but I noticed he'd started his first premiership game at the weekend?
I watched it actually. Or most of it.

Atrocious weather conditions meant the ball spent most of the game stuffed up various jumpers, the backs stood in line waiting... and waiting.

He did the basics well, or the little that was asked of him. Caught well. Waited for non existent ball well.

It will be other days where he is judged. Chiefs lost 13-10.
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Old 29-10-19, 08:32 PM   #4033
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I saw the score so guessed the conditions weren't great given the Chiefs don't usually struggle to reach double figures.

I hope Hogg stays fit and shows what he can do. On the face of it he's gone to a team that should suit his style so it would be a shame if he spends large parts of his time there in the treatment room.
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Old 30-10-19, 11:12 AM   #4034
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I can’t believe I am going to say this. But 100% with England on this.

What a load of bollocks. If ever you needed evidence that World Rugby place far too much importance, support and respect towards the ABs then this is it. The Haka is a massive boon for them. I think trans should be allowed to be creative in how they respond.

I’ll bet nobody would have given a fuck if the ABs had won. It’s a joke.

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Anyway, that’s as much support as I can offer cmon the Boks!!!
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Old 30-10-19, 11:26 AM   #4035
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Storm in a tea cup, same thing with the Jaco Peyper missing out on the NZ - Eng semi because of taking the photo with Welsh fans. Get over it. No one in this world should give a fuck about such trivial things.
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Old 30-10-19, 11:43 AM   #4036
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Storm in a tea cup, same thing with the Jaco Peyper missing out on the NZ - Eng semi because of taking the photo with Welsh fans. Get over it. No one in this world should give a fuck about such trivial things.
Getting fined for crossing the half way line whilst the ABs perform the Haka is ridiculous, beurocratic nonsense. I agree with you, and don’t see why in either instance an action should have resulted. The Jack Peyper one was if anything even more ridiculous that photo changed nothing.

We may as well start demanding that our national anthem is played on the bagpipes where ever we go because it sounds better.
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Old 01-11-19, 08:55 PM   #4037
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I canít believe I am going to say this. But 100% with England on this.

What a load of bollocks. If ever you needed evidence that World Rugby place far too much importance, support and respect towards the ABs then this is it. The Haka is a massive boon for them. I think trans should be allowed to be creative in how they respond.

Iíll bet nobody would have given a fuck if the ABs had won. Itís a joke.

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Old 01-11-19, 09:37 PM   #4038
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So just over12 hours out from the final people.

If both teams are at their best then England will be hard to beat but if they are a bit off the Boks will seize their chance. Having Cheslin Kolbe fit is a big plus for SA and may impact on the way they decide to play IMO.
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Old 01-11-19, 10:08 PM   #4039
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Don't think there will be any secrets or surprises in the tactics. Would be pretty shocked if all of a sudden out of nowhere Rassie says get the ball through the hands, throw it around. Especially when you look at the forward dominance in the split on the bench with arguably some of the better players, definitely for scrumming only coming on in the second half. Turn it into the game against Wales and SA will have a good chance.

Originally, I was pessimistic, then considered our recent clashes H2H and thought we had the advantage, now I'm thinking it'll be really close and a flip of the coin. In other words, completely clueless. Going to get absolutely sloshed tomorrow
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Old 01-11-19, 10:13 PM   #4040
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Nerves will be huge so who settles first will be crucial. If the occasion gets to either team it could be a problem.

An early score will also settle nerves and England tend to start well. I think England fancy it tomorrow, which could be a problem. They were good last week because they were underdogs and complacency has been an issue in the recent past.

Am currently watching Glasgow thrash Pro 14 whipping boys Southern Kings 50-0 with 15 to go. Warriors have been poor so far this season so a welcome BP.

Will miss the final tomorrow as my son has football.

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