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Old 07-08-06, 07:00 PM   #41
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Did anyone aee me? I was there

Anyway, told you it wasn't over and that the pitch would change today.

England will win tomorrow, probably by about 70-100 runs

I'm going tomorrow, 15 quid entry

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Old 07-08-06, 07:22 PM   #42
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Did anyone aee me? I was there

Anyway, told you it wasn't over and that the pitch would change today.

England will win tomorrow, probably by about 70-100 runs

I'm going tomorrow, 15 quid entry

You didn't have the traditional "all day bender at the cricket" then?!

Should be a great day tomorrow, with a likely full house? Certainly should be at that price, although they only charged 10 on the last day of the Ashes Test at Old Trafford last summer.

Not sure which way it'll go. Inzy's injury will unsettle them though - he can't come until number 7, I think.
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Old 07-08-06, 07:25 PM   #43
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You didn't have the traditional "all day bender at the cricket" then?!

Should be a great day tomorrow, with a likely full house? Certainly should be at that price, although they only charged 10 on the last day of the Ashes Test at Old Trafford last summer.

Not sure which way it'll go. Inzy's injury will unsettle them though - he can't come until number 7, I think.
There's more in this game than there was last year. It's very likely we'll get a full day's play.
I couldn't do a "Gary Player" today as I had stuff to sort out but I might do tomorrow
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great test match. Shame I missed most of it so far.

I reckon Monty may do us proud.
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Old 07-08-06, 08:23 PM   #45
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I love Monty, the bloke is a ledge. Great to see the crowds taking him to their hearts.
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Old 07-08-06, 08:32 PM   #46
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I expect 5 wickets from Monty tomorrow, the 5th day headingley pitch will suit him.
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Old 07-08-06, 09:14 PM   #47
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I expect 5 wickets from Monty tomorrow
No pressure then.

Looking to Hoggy for the wickets myself...should get a bit of movement on his home pitch.
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Old 07-08-06, 09:21 PM   #48
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No pressure then.

Looking to Hoggy for the wickets myself...should get a bit of movement on his home pitch.
I don't think the weather will be in his favour tomorrow, there might be some movement in the morning but it won't swing after lunch.
Either way, the only way England can lose this is if Pakistan are something like 275 /8 and they have a thrash. If Pakistan start well, there will be a lot of bowling 2 feet outsdie off stump
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Old 08-08-06, 12:02 AM   #49
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tomorrow should be a belting day. 35 run victory
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Just had a look at the betting...

England 6/4
Draw 5/4
Pakistan 11/4

England look pretty decent value, huh?
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Not bad odds for England
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Old 08-08-06, 12:37 AM   #52
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think I may have a dabble at those odds.
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Old 08-08-06, 12:15 PM   #53
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think I may have a dabble at those odds.
Did you back us? Looking good, Monty strikes!! 52-2.
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On yer fookin' bike Akmal! Do one!

Looks like game over. 6/4 too, get in!
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On yer fookin' bike Akmal! Do one!

Looks like game over. 6/4 too, get in!
Hope you got that bet on - 80-5 now!

Faisal Iqbal c C M W Read b S I Mahmood
Kamran Akmal c C M W Read b S I Mahmood

Inzamam is allowed to bad now at 7 isn't he?
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Old 08-08-06, 12:54 PM   #56
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Hope you got that bet on - 80-5 now!

Faisal Iqbal c C M W Read b S I Mahmood
Kamran Akmal c C M W Read b S I Mahmood

Inzamam is allowed to bad now at 7 isn't he?
That's the wicket I was cheering!

Yeah I'm on us at 6/4 on its own and in an accumulator.

Inzy's in now, aye.
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Old 08-08-06, 12:58 PM   #57
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Haven't seen this test though there must have been some cracking batting displays - some amount of runs there.
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It's been a great Test match so far.
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MONTYYYYYYYYY!!
Just love the terminology on the BBC website - 'Chin Music'

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1403: WICKET - Pakistan 112-6 (Younis b Panesar 41)
A crackerjack delivery from Panesar to dismiss Younis Khan. The ball pitched on middle stump, turned across the face of Younis' bat and flicked his off bail. Younis had no chance. England are into the tail-end and Sami is next man in. An optimistic lbw appeal by Panesar first up - but Sami sees off the rest of the over. A wicket-maiden.

1400: Inzamam piles into a short one from Harmison - arrogant, dismissive, glorious. Harmison is riled and serves Inzy up some chin music that gets the Pakistan skipper hopping around the crease.
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we`re beginning to show strength in depth
some cracking displays..monty shutting the door on giles methinks
bell tonning for fun..let`s hope he can play as well against the aussies
flintoff to come back..should be a good winter
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Old 08-08-06, 05:14 PM   #62
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I doubt it Fletcher rates overall contribution, so Giles will be in with a shout until Panesar proves himself in the field or as a batsman.

However Panesar has made big strides and it makes a change for England to go to Australia with two spinners neither of whom are a complete embarassment.
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Old 08-08-06, 05:18 PM   #63
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Giles is playing catch up now. I can't see him displacing Monty. THe difference is, Monty can take wickets on an unfavourable pitch against batsmen who are top class against spinners. Giles used to bowl into the rough and/or frustrat batsmen into making mistakes. Often he was used as a stop gap whilst our pacemen had a rest.
Monty is a strike bowler. I haven't been this excited about an England spinner since Tufnell took the game seriously. Unfortunately it was shortlived in his case.
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Old 08-08-06, 05:30 PM   #64
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I watched the last day of the Lords test and what was noticable about Monty was how his body language changed when the crowd was giving him support. He then looked twice as confident and consequently seemed to bowl more threateningly. I hope that his success in this series will mean that he will in future back himself without needing a crowd.

I think that it will be interesting to see how it pans out. You ar e certainly right that Giles will now have to prove his form rather than walk straight into the team.
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Old 08-08-06, 05:32 PM   #65
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tuffers before bushtucker trials & loans.co.uk .. them was the days
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Old 08-08-06, 05:34 PM   #66
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I remember Tuffers single-handedly (well not quite) bowling out the formidable Windies at the Oval once. Pure class.
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Strength in depth now or what?!

Ashes certainties (1st XI, I mean):

Strauss
Trescothick
Cook?
Pietersen
Flintoff
Hoggard
Panesar?
Harmison

Eight positions pretty much nailed on, fitness permitting, and these lot fighting for the other three:

Chris Read
Geraint Jones
Bell
Mahmood
Collingwood
Plunkett
Ashley Giles if fit

That's 15 players who you'd back to do a decent job, and we've still Simon Jones to come back from injury (one day...hopefully) and possibly even Vaughan.
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I'd put Read in as a certainty now.
He is just the best wicket keeper in the country and it is a specialist position. He has shown he can bat, OK he hasn't got a Test ton like Jones, but he can bat with the openers and he can bat with the tail.
Jones will drop more catches and crucially miss more stumpings than Read and IN AUSTRALIA where pitches are hard and swing is minimal, chances will be at a premium for England. That is where we have lost Ashes series in australia before, we haven't had the bowlers to create the chances and their batsmen make hay.
For the record, I think we'll lose the Ashes, at best we might draw the series and retain the Ashes, but we will be much more competitive than in the last 20 years.
It's interesting Shaggy that you put Cook as a certainty but Bell as a possibility. I think they are in direct competition.
S. Jones will not play for the first 3 tests but may be back for the last 2- no chance in my opinion.
I don't think Michael will play, he's pretty down about it to be honest.
Jimmy Anderson is still young and must be included as a possibility.

Come on then cricket fans, who would be your England 16 for the Ashes assuming Vaughan and S.Jones are out but Giles is fit?

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Agreed re Read, but he may have a little bit more to do yet in terms of cementing his place. I do think he'll do it though, comfortably.

Cook and Bell may well be in direct competition when Flintoff gets fit, with Collingwood almost certain to make way for Fred, although they could line up in the same side? I prefer Cook myself, despite Bell's recent good form. Cook is brilliant on the back foot - which will come in very handy in Australia.

Injuries permitting, I'd go with this 16:

Strauss
Trescothick
Cook
Pietersen
Bell
Flintoff
Read
Panesar
Hoggard
Harmison
Mahmood

Collingwood
AN Other batsman (?)
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It's the 6th batsman that I'm struggling with too. Of course if Michael was fit, he'd be first choice, but he won't play.
I've got 2 all rounders, 2 keepers, 5 batsmen and 4 bowlers nailed on.

I'm not sure who the 5th and 6th bowlers are but it would be out of Anderson, Mahmood, Plunkett, S.Jones (risky) and Tremlett.
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Did you back us? Looking good, Monty strikes!! 52-2.
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I think we will take Jones in addition to the rest of the squad, or send him to that academy thing we send young players to in Australia to carry on rehab but still be available if fit.

I have to say I would worry going into a test against Australia with any of Anderson, Tremlett, Mahmood or Plunkett in the side. They all need to work on bowling a consistant line and hold down an end when it is not going for them.
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I'm basking in my predictive prowess having dismissed the "nailed on draw" claims and also my prediction that we could bowl Pakistan out in 2 sessions on a last day pitch.

I know my Headingley pitches
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I heard there was a right screw up with tickets this morning?
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I'm basking in my predictive prowess having dismissed the "nailed on draw" claims and also my prediction that we could bowl Pakistan out in 2 sessions on a last day pitch.

I know my Headingley pitches
As every true Yorkshireman should!

Good call anyway. It's unreal that pitch. Two 500+ innings' racked up, followed by England being bowled out inside a day and Pakistan then duly being bowled out in barely half a day.
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I heard there was a right screw up with tickets this morning?
Not really, just a shit-load of congestion. Fortunately I live a couple of miles away so I got my tickets nice and early
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As every true Yorkshireman should!

Good call anyway. It's unreal that pitch. Two 500+ innings' racked up, followed by England being bowled out inside a day and Pakistan then duly being bowled out in barely half a day.
I think that's the sign of a good Test wicket, equal contest between bat and ball. Pakistan could have batted out that day if they wanted too, there were no devils in that pitch, but they threw it away with a daft run out. That pitch had enough in it for the bowlers but Pakistan lacked the mental application to bat out a draw. That was great news for spectators but I just feel Boycott would have loved batting on that track.
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