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Old 27-06-18, 12:25 AM   #961
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we will be more powerful going forward and more solid defensively.

we still wait for an new attacker or versatile attacking midfielder, and maybe another centre back and a goalkeeper.

oxlade is going to be out long term otherwise he would fill the right sided midfield slot.

the deep midfielder is likely to remain hendersons role, but he could swap with fabinho if we get someone sensational to fill the right hand side.

our line up will be something like;

mane . . firmino . . . salah

. . keita . . . . fabinho

. . . . henderson . . . .

robertson . VVD . . lovren . . TAA

. . . . . . karius/new


mane firmino salah
keita hendo fabinho
robbo vvd lovren taa
karius/omg

mane . . firmino . . salah
. . . . . . keita
. . hendo . . . fabinho
robbo . vvd . lovren . taa
. . . . . . karius
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Old 27-06-18, 09:53 AM   #962
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we will be more powerful going forward and more solid defensively.

we still wait for an new attacker or versatile attacking midfielder, and maybe another centre back and a goalkeeper.

oxlade is going to be out long term otherwise he would fill the right sided midfield slot.

the deep midfielder is likely to remain hendersons role, but he could swap with fabinho if we get someone sensational to fill the right hand side.

our line up will be something like;

mane . . firmino . . . salah

. .fekir
. . . . keita

. . . . fabinho. . . .

robertson . VVD . . lovren . . TAA

. . . . . . karius/new


mane firmino salah
keita hendo fabinho
robbo vvd lovren taa
karius/omg

mane . . firmino . . salah
. . . . . . keita
. . hendo . . . fabinho
robbo . vvd . lovren . taa
. . . . . . karius
I genuinely think this will be our strongest team next year - have myself convinced we are signing Fekir
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Old 27-06-18, 10:04 AM   #963
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I genuinely think this will be our strongest team next year - have myself convinced we are signing Fekir
when i did the team plan diagrams i had fekir in there and i was reluctant to change it.
i could see the grief it would cause

anyway... this would be the bollocks.


. . .mane . . firmino . . salah

. . . . keita . . . . fekir ?

. . . . . . . . fabinho

robertson . VVD . . lovren . . TAA

. . . . . . . karius/new
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Old 27-06-18, 01:06 PM   #964
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I think next season we are going to need to be good enough that for 75% or so of league games we can play at least one of the younger players from the off. We need to blood these kids, loans just don't seem to work, and when we do a big rotate we put 3 points at risk so 10 plus a Brewster, a Solanke, a Woodburn, a Wilson etc ought to be how we are thinking about it. The best chance for them to succeed is to play them in a good team, not all together and then complain when "they should have risen to the challenge".
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Old 27-06-18, 01:10 PM   #965
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I think next season we are going to need to be good enough that for 75% or so of league games we can play at least one of the younger players from the off. We need to blood these kids, loans just don't seem to work, and when we do a big rotate we put 3 points at risk so 10 plus a Brewster, a Solanke, a Woodburn, a Wilson etc ought to be how we are thinking about it. The best chance for them to succeed is to play them in a good team, not all together and then complain when "they should have risen to the challenge".

that would be the ideal situation, but i think these lads will get their chances in substitute appearances and earn a start after a couple of real stand out displays.
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Old 27-06-18, 01:49 PM   #966
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when i did the team plan diagrams i had fekir in there and i was reluctant to change it.
i could see the grief it would cause

anyway... this would be the bollocks.


. . .mane . . firmino . . salah

. . . . keita . . . . fekir

. . . . . . . . fabinho

robertson . VVD . . Koulibaly . . TAA

. . . . . . . Alisson

Chucked in a few changes, and there is our title shot



Although might favour a fully match fit Clyne for RB ....maybe
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Old 27-06-18, 02:17 PM   #967
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I think next season we are going to need to be good enough that for 75% or so of league games we can play at least one of the younger players from the off. We need to blood these kids, loans just don't seem to work, and when we do a big rotate we put 3 points at risk so 10 plus a Brewster, a Solanke, a Woodburn, a Wilson etc ought to be how we are thinking about it. The best chance for them to succeed is to play them in a good team, not all together and then complain when "they should have risen to the challenge".
The concern is that they all play in similar positions so they are likely to be taking minutes off one another. Brewster and Solanke are in direct competition. The other two not direct competition but cup games or injury crisis aside I don't see two of those four being in the same side. I think at least one (probably one of Solanke or Brewster) needs to go out on loan. Perhaps Woodburn as well would benefit from the experience given his age. For me Wilson's form out on loan has earned him a shot
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Old 27-06-18, 02:41 PM   #968
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when i did the team plan diagrams i had fekir in there and i was reluctant to change it.
i could see the grief it would cause

anyway... this would be the bollocks.


. . .mane . . firmino . . salah

. . . . keita . . . . fekir ?

. . . . . . . . fabinho

robertson . VVD . . lovren . . TAA

. . . . . . . karius/new
.......or it could be complete bollocks
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Old 27-06-18, 02:56 PM   #969
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Chucked in a few changes, and there is our title shot



Although might favour a fully match fit Clyne for RB ....maybe
I was thinking about this when looking at people's lineups earlier, do we think TAA is now first choice right back even when Clyne is fit?

For me it's a close one and I could imagine us swapping between the two like TAA and Gomez did last season
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Old 27-06-18, 03:07 PM   #970
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I was thinking about this when looking at people's lineups earlier, do we think TAA is now first choice right back even when Clyne is fit?

For me it's a close one and I could imagine us swapping between the two like TAA and Gomez did last season

I think a lot depends on how much TAA develops from all that extra playing time last season. If he goes up a level and adds consistency to his play then he might be able to make the position his, but Clyne is a very underrated full back at times and is as reliable as Finnan was at RB and offers at least the same level of quality as Finnan.


Will speak volumes about how far TAA has come if he can take the RB slot from a fully fit Clyne.


I also wonder could we see TAA getting used as cover for RM or even used in an advanced CM role a la how Chamberlain was used at times last season. Would be a way to have cover for a few players when tey need a break and also a way to ensure TAA is getting regular game time.
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Old 27-06-18, 03:23 PM   #971
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I have said that I could see TAA moving further forward into midfield but given we've made a couple odays signings in there albeit we have lost Can. I think it will be more difficult to break into those positions this coming season than the one just gone
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Old 27-06-18, 05:08 PM   #972
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Clyne might be more astute positionally but taa has the pace and has done really well against some top opposition.
Its good that we have quality back up and im happy for either to play.
We all felt that clyne lacked something in his attacking game but maybe he was just too reluctant to commit going forward as he knew how shit we were at the back, but now we have added the VVD colossus he can relax and play a more expansive full back/winger role like taa does.
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Old 27-06-18, 05:34 PM   #973
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TAA for me but I'd love it if Clyne came back to his best to compete. That isn't anywhere near where TAA will be in a year or two though.
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Old 27-06-18, 06:06 PM   #974
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I have said that I could see TAA moving further forward into midfield but given we've made a couple odays signings in there albeit we have lost Can. I think it will be more difficult to break into those positions this coming season than the one just gone

With Chamberlain out long term, TAA could become one of the guys who could be used as a sub for the role Chamberlain used to do.

Do not see him as being able to oust our two new purchases for the centre but he would be another option if we needed a quick mobile talented player to be cover or for lesser cup games in the role.

RW/RM is another spot he could be handy cover for.
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Old 27-06-18, 09:10 PM   #975
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I have said that I could see TAA moving further forward into midfield but given we've made a couple odays signings in there albeit we have lost Can. I think it will be more difficult to break into those positions this coming season than the one just gone
I see his best position in midfield. I'm not worried about it - if he's talented enough it will happen, if he's not it won't. Either way we will have a decent midfield because the lad has talent alright.
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Old 27-06-18, 11:55 PM   #976
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A fully fit Clyne & an improving TAA is great for the club & gives Jürgen a pleasant headache. I can see the two rotating with TAA getting time on the bench to cover both RB & midfield which is great for the club.
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all guns blazing, blitzkrieg everyone. ack ack ack ack

- - - - salah
mane - firmino - shaqiri
- fabinho - keita
robbo - lovren - VVD - TAA
- Mr Alisson Ramses Becker
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Old 18-07-18, 01:19 PM   #978
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all guns blazing, blitzkrieg everyone. ack ack ack ack

- - - - salah
mane - firmino - shaqiri
- fabinho - keita
robbo - lovren - VVD - TAA
- Mr Alisson Ramses Becker
------------ firmino
salah ----- mane ----- shaqiri
---------- ox --- keita
robbo - lovren - vvd - taa
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no way shaq gets in our starting 11 for my money
It's not a first XI, it's an all out attack line up.

If you want a starting XI then here's mine -

Mane ------ Firmino ------ Salah
---------- Keita --- Hendo
--------------- Fabinho
Robbo - Lovren - VVD - TAA
--------------- Alisson

Subs: Sturridge, Fekir, Shaqiri, Milner, Lallana, Wijnaldum, Matip, Clyne, Karius

Squad: Origi, Solanke, Moreno, Gomez, Klavan, Jones, Woodburn, Grabara

Injured: Oxlade-Chamberlain
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no way shaq gets in our starting 11 for my money
salah is so deadly in front of goal, and his pace and movement are stunning, so imagine having him in the middle. shaq out wide, mane out wide, bobby doing the presing with salah...
get that trophy engraved...
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Old 18-07-18, 02:25 PM   #982
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Old 18-07-18, 02:27 PM   #983
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Our style of play?

Fucking awesome
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It's not a first XI, it's an all out attack line up.

If you want a starting XI then here's mine -

Mane ------ Firmino ------ Salah
---------- Keita --- Hendo
--------------- Fabinho
Robbo - Lovren - VVD - TAA
--------------- Alisson

Subs: Sturridge, Fekir, Shaqiri, Milner, Lallana, Wijnaldum, Matip, Clyne, Karius

Squad: Origi, Solanke, Moreno, Gomez, Klavan, Jones, Woodburn, Grabara

Injured: Oxlade-Chamberlain


Fekir not good enough to make the starting XI?? The guy is an excellent AM who has that rare knack of making the players around him look even better with his range of passing and clever play.

If we get him, he should be a starter as the AM behind our front three.
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Fekir not good enough to make the starting XI?? The guy is an excellent AM who has that rare knack of making the players around him look even better with his range of passing and clever play.

If we get him, he should be a starter as the AM behind our front three.
mane - salah - shaq
keita - - fab - - fekir
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Where is Bobby?
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Where is Bobby?
his big smile is lighting up the technical area while the rest of them bang in a million goals a game. he can copy their celebrations and kung fu kick on the touchline.
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I'll say it here, Spurs are out of the top four race. By the time the first XI is ready they'll be too far behind. Arsenal will replace them. Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea to fight for 3rd and 4th (wooden spoon 5th obviously).

Our style of play + the personnel now brought in means 10 goals fewer conceded with hardly any impact to the goals for tally. This means the tight 2-2 or 1-1 results will now be victories unless all our first 15 squad players are having their periods on the same day.
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Kane never scores in August anyway so no great loss to them. I hope they make a shit start and continue to be shit.

I reckon Arsenal will storm the top four and keep Chelsea out.

We're winning the fucking league.
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It's not a first XI, it's an all out attack line up.

If you want a starting XI then here's mine -

Mane ------ Firmino ------ Salah
---------- Keita --- Hendo
--------------- Fabinho
Robbo - Lovren - VVD - TAA
--------------- Alisson

Subs: Sturridge, Fekir, Shaqiri, Milner, Lallana, Wijnaldum, Matip, Clyne, Karius

Squad: Origi, Solanke, Moreno, Gomez, Klavan, Jones, Woodburn, Grabara

Injured: Oxlade-Chamberlain
Lallana will start if he is fit enough.
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No chance will Lallana be a regular starter moving forwards
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No chance will Lallana be a regular starter moving forwards
Purely because he cannot stay fit for long periods. There have been probably the same concerns with Fékir.

But on ability alone, he should be a regular starter.
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Keita, Lallana and a toss up between Fabinho and Henderson for that more defensive role. There is also Milner and Gini to factor in, and Keita can also play as a more withdrawn midfielder.

I would start Lallana most games if he is fit. He can also play further forward, but that would be more out of necessity. We have a wealth of options even without someone like Fékir.
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I’d say Fabinho, Keita and Henderson are more likely and that disregards us bringing in Fekir for example. Lots of games to be played but I doubt Lallana will be an automatic starter through the campaign regardless of his fitness.
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I’d say Fabinho, Keita and Henderson are more likely and that disregards us bringing in Fekir for example. Lots of games to be played but I doubt Lallana will be an automatic starter through the campaign regardless of his fitness.
If fekir comes in then he will be taking the place if lallama as the attacking midfielder option.
Keita alongside fekir will walk their way through the bus parkers (fingers crossed).
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It's not a first XI, it's an all out attack line up.

If you want a starting XI then here's mine -

Mane ------ Firmino ------ Salah
---------- Keita --- Hendo
--------------- Fabinho
Robbo - Lovren - VVD - TAA
--------------- Alisson

Subs: Sturridge, Fekir, Shaqiri, Milner, Lallana, Wijnaldum, Matip, Clyne, Karius

Squad: Origi, Solanke, Moreno, Gomez, Klavan, Jones, Woodburn, Grabara

Injured: Oxlade-Chamberlain
Fabinho may take a little time to adjust to the pace of the Premiership, so he may not start the season as ‘first choice’. But I suspect the above team will eventually be Klopp’s preferred starting eleven.

Biggest concern for me is the lack of strength in depth for the front three. We rely heavily on all three being fit and performing very well. A loss of form (fatigue) or injury to one of them and we tend to struggle. The answer might be playing a different formation/tactics if we lose one of those players.
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Nice to start the season and not complain about our defence or midfield!! I’m now worried about adequate cover for Salah, Firmino and Mane
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I'll say it here, Spurs are out of the top four race. By the time the first XI is ready they'll be too far behind. Arsenal will replace them. Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea to fight for 3rd and 4th (wooden spoon 5th obviously).

Our style of play + the personnel now brought in means 10 goals fewer conceded with hardly any impact to the goals for tally. This means the tight 2-2 or 1-1 results will now be victories unless all our first 15 squad players are having their periods on the same day.
No chance Arsenal make up that mub ground IMO. Spurs still finished ahead of us last season, and the previous, and the one before that yet we continue to see them as no hopers. It'll be the same top 4 I think
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