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Old 15-08-14, 02:43 PM   #1
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How much are you prepared to pay for Football?

This thread would probably get more traffic in the LFC section, but it's probably better suited here.

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Having dropped the sports channels from my TV package before last season, and having been quoted about £50 extra per month to reinstate them for this season, I have decided that enough is enough, for me at least. A line has to be drawn. A stance has to be maintained. A point has to be made. To me, watching football legally at home does not represent any sort of value for money, so I'm now refusing to pay a penny more.

Personally, I'm not prepared to pay £600 per annum to help fund Raheem Sterling's 400% pay rise (or whatever obscene wage example you wish to insert here instead). I have today got my apparently 'above average' pay rise of about 2.4% (I shit you not) so why should I hand it over to Raheem - barely out of childhood (or any other wage example you wish to insert here instead)?

Replica shirts retail at about £60 and have a maximum shelf life of about 9 months. Built in obsolescence in its purist form.

Match day tickets when all else is considered are probably the best value for money method to watch a game these days (transport, accommodation, ancillary costs aside).

I get market forces. I understand the fans' obsession, and that rational thinking often goes out of the window. I don't have a problem with either. I'm not jealous of footballer wages - they're welcome to them. But I'd genuinely surprised that there isn't more of a backlash with people spending their hard earned cash subsidising this frankly quite ridiculously obscene industry.

So I'd be interested to know how much you guys spend on watching football at home, in the pub, in stadia, buying branded goods? And how does that compare to what you think is an acceptable amount to spend? Are you happy with this? Do you begrudge it? Is it the necessary price to pay? And how much will be too much to pay for you personally?

Personally, last season I spent about £80 in total watching a handful of games in pubs. I didn't see any games live in the flesh, and I didn't buy any merchandise. I would be happy paying £20 per month for all Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup and League Cup games. I don't watch other sports, so I have no interest in subsidising them either. So for me there is a big gap between what I am willing to pay, and what I am being asked to pay. So no deal.

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Old 15-08-14, 02:45 PM   #2
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Old 15-08-14, 02:55 PM   #3
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Firstly apologies because I've not actually read your post.

In terms of paying for football, my preference would be that I could choose just to pay for the Liverpool games. I'm not talking about a crappy unreliable stream on the offal, I'm talking about HD on satellite/cable. That is the model that would suit me best as these days I don't to watch that many other PL games. That and a highlights packages (i.e. MOTD).
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Old 15-08-14, 02:58 PM   #4
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I'd happily visit Anfield a couple of times a season: say £200 all in.
If the Sports Channel was £20 a month I'd probably pay that.

As it is I don't visit Anfield and I don't pay for watching it on TV.
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Old 15-08-14, 02:59 PM   #5
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In terms of paying for football, my preference would be that I could choose just to pay for the Liverpool games. I'm not talking about a crappy unreliable stream on the offal, I'm talking about HD on satellite/cable. That is the model that would suit me best as these days I don't to watch that many other PL games. That and a highlights packages (i.e. MOTD).
It's a good idea in theory. But then you would be well on the way to implementing a model similar to the one in Spain where Barca / Real take about 80% (this is a guess) of all the TV revenue, leaving very little for everyone else (Why should Stoke get an even share of the revenue when only about 20 people subscribe to watch their tedious games)?

That would be very bad for English Football imo. As it is in Spain.
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Old 15-08-14, 03:01 PM   #6
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Old 15-08-14, 08:00 PM   #7
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I'd happily pay for Sky, primarily for football but also F1 and cricket. But the wife is exercising her veto. Consistently. Over the last 5 years.

If I could just get her to produce a son I could start to establish a voting bloc.
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Old 15-08-14, 08:09 PM   #8
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Not much, to be honest.

I'd rather spend twice as much over the month in the pub than sit at home in front of the telly.

The fact that Sky has other sports though (Cricket, Rugby, Darts) makes it a decent enough price.
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Old 16-08-14, 09:58 AM   #9
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I pay for sky because I get a complete package and watch other sports on it, in terms of football I'm basically the same as Reece I watch our games and highlights.

I do get annoyed that they have brought in other companies such as BT that also have PL matches, so I don't pay for that, but if BT or someone else got more PL games I would seriously consider getting rid of skysports.
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Old 16-08-14, 10:14 AM   #10
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I watch it on the internet or at the Casino. I refuse to be conned into paying for the rest of Murdoch's shite.
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Old 16-08-14, 01:09 PM   #11
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First year uni we never bothered with sky, yet going the pub cost us loads more.

Second year we got a good deal that worked out at £2.50 a week per person.

Currently got sky from krade £25 a month

In terms of match tickets I always said £50 was breaking point for me, yet I find myself paying £59 this season, but i'd say without a season ticket i'd try to get to 15/20 games but will be about 10 this season, not that they care.
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Old 16-08-14, 02:29 PM   #12
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Works out about £450-500 pa for me and that is for all the league games, all champions league and Europa cup, all FA cup, some championship, and most of the major European league games.
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Old 16-08-14, 02:34 PM   #13
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Old 16-08-14, 08:36 PM   #14
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I think a fair price would be £15 per week. That would have to include all our games. Otherwise for the games I am not going too I would simply go to the pub and watch it there. On another note ticket prices are extortionate, pushing £50 is out of touch with the city the club represents, £30 is plenty.
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Old 16-08-14, 08:46 PM   #15
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I think a fair price would be £15 per week. That would have to include all our games. Otherwise for the games I am not going too I would simply go to the pub and watch it there. On another note ticket prices are extortionate, pushing £50 is out of touch with the city the club represents, £30 is plenty.
£15 per week seems steep. Do you mean £15 per month?

I think it's good that Sky finally has decent competition. However, the price for Sky Sports and BT Sport is too high (especially for a lot of shit sport).
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Old 16-08-14, 08:48 PM   #16
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Good question.

I currently just pay to watch our games. I pay via Lfc.tv (£4.50 a month) and Sky when we are playing, if not I'll hook up a stream. I also have the chance to get to 1 or 2 games a year, if I can. I don't watch our games in pubs normally, only occasionally.

You raise an excellent point though, that we are funding a bubble. The society we now live in is one of consumption. The Internet has become a service which we can't do without, but we are not seeing a drop in prices despite the incredible scaling it gives to those companies involved in creating such a product (i.e the Premier League). I see that the PL have warned people now to stop uploading snippets of games from their phones onto YouTube, this to maintain their high prices. It will have to stop at some point.
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Old 16-08-14, 09:04 PM   #17
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£15 per week seems steep. Do you mean £15 per month?

I think it's good that Sky finally has decent competition. However, the price for Sky Sports and BT Sport is too high (especially for a lot of shit sport).
Yes sorry £15 Per month.
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Old 16-08-14, 09:50 PM   #18
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I'd be ok with £40 or £50 a month if it meant I could watch all our games, home and away, all competitions. Sky charges that and show maybe one or two games a month from us? It'll be more this season because of CL but still not that many. I wouldn't bother watching Hull v Burnley or Stoke v Southampton if it was free so there's no way I'd pay for it.
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Old 16-08-14, 10:18 PM   #19
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Good question.

I currently just pay to watch our games. I pay via Lfc.tv (£4.50 a month) and Sky when we are playing, if not I'll hook up a stream. I also have the chance to get to 1 or 2 games a year, if I can. I don't watch our games in pubs normally, only occasionally.

You raise an excellent point though, that we are funding a bubble. The society we now live in is one of consumption. The Internet has become a service which we can't do without, but we are not seeing a drop in prices despite the incredible scaling it gives to those companies involved in creating such a product (i.e the Premier League). I see that the PL have warned people now to stop uploading snippets of games from their phones onto YouTube, this to maintain their high prices. It will have to stop at some point.
You pay for Sky for individual games?
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Old 16-08-14, 10:21 PM   #20
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Yes, in the form of Now TV. It's an Internet based service and costs £6.99 currently for 24 hours. It's in good quality almost HD.
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Sorry it's not for
individual games but it gives you access to all sky sports channels for 24 hours.
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Old 16-08-14, 10:25 PM   #22
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7 quid for 24 hours? I'm not sure whether that's a good deal or not. Maybe just about.
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Old 16-08-14, 10:27 PM   #23
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Well providing we are on Sky 4 times per month it will cost me only £28. How much is the normal sky package?
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Old 16-08-14, 10:33 PM   #24
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£34

Or

£36

Or something like that
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Old 16-08-14, 10:35 PM   #25
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C/P from the foory streaming thread:

I'm using a service that provide the equivalent of Netflix (series, movies), and for about £20 a month. I get a lot of sports - PL, CL, EL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, UFC, NHL, NFL, Tennis and other stuff - don't watch it all obviously, but it's there...

All I can see and all legal. It's online streaming, so need something between it and my tv, aka laptop, playsation etc.

I think it's a finde price for sport, I don't mind paying for it, I would however think that about 40 - 50 is my limit for ALL the above.
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Old 16-08-14, 10:38 PM   #26
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Tomorrow I will be paying the £6.99 to watch on now tv, otherwise if I go to pub it will be £20 wasted. Only shit thing is the lead from tablet to TV which works for films doesn't for Now TV. So I have to watch on 10" screen.
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C/P from the foory streaming thread:

I'm using a service that provide the equivalent of Netflix (series, movies), and for about £20 a month. I get a lot of sports - PL, CL, EL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, UFC, NHL, NFL, Tennis and other stuff - don't watch it all obviously, but it's there...

All I can see and all legal. It's online streaming, so need something between it and my tv, aka laptop, playsation etc.

I think it's a finde price for sport, I don't mind paying for it, I would however think that about 40 - 50 is my limit for ALL the above.
Is that a Danish service, or is it available in the UK?
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As far as I know it's Scandinavian company. It's named Viaplay, might have somthing similar in the UK, I don't know tbh.
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There's also BeIn sports which provides a similar service. I know G has it.
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Tomorrow I will be paying the £6.99 to watch on now tv, otherwise if I go to pub it will be £20 wasted. Only shit thing is the lead from tablet to TV which works for films doesn't for Now TV. So I have to watch on 10" screen.
Get yourself a Roku. It's got NowTV as an app on it, and you connect to your TV via an HDMI cable.
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Old 16-08-14, 10:49 PM   #31
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Doesn't work anymore Nigey. I found out this morning when I went online. All good until the match started then I just got a screen saying "due to rights restrictions they can't broadcast the games online" . That's obviously the Premier league cracking the whip after last season because it's basically a far cheaper version of sky sports. I'm on the lookout for a new options now but finding one in HD seems to be difficult.
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Doesn't work anymore Nigey. I found out this morning when I went online. All good until the match started then I just got a screen saying "due to rights restrictions they can't broadcast the games online" . That's obviously the Premier league cracking the whip after last season because it's basically a far cheaper version of sky sports. I'm on the lookout for a new options now but finding one in HD seems to be difficult.
NowTV? You can watch it online or if you have a smart TV, connect with the app.
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Old 16-08-14, 10:56 PM   #33
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I'm looking into skybox f5 at the moment. Not legal but gets you all the sky channels and BT for a small yearly fee. In the meantime I've signed up to star sports. 12 euro for a year's subscription not HD though
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Just added Sky Sports for £14. Total package of £51.50pm (Sky TV, movies, sport, broadband and phone).
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I have SKY broadband separately, which I pay £30 a month for. Will it make it cheaper if I get the whole package?
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I have SKY broadband separately, which I pay £30 a month for. Will it make it cheaper if I get the whole package?
My Sky broadband is unlimited (not fibre) and I currently get it free (normal price would be £7.50pm). I also pay the phone line rental upfront (so is not included in the £51.50 monthly cost).

There is currently an offer with Sky - add Sky Sports (normal price £22.50 and get broadband free for two years). Might be worth looking at.
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Also, I get a reduced price on Sky Sports (reduced by £8.50) because I have Sky Movies.
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I would like all games available at a cost of £2 each, with a choice of when and which to watch.

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If Lfc.tv owned our rights....
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I pay 12 euros to watch Paderborn (standing ticket behind the goal) transport to the ground is free on matchday to prevent drink driving etc. I will drink 4 or 5 large beers as the match pans out and maybe eat a currywurst and pommefrites at halftime. Food and drinks bill = less than 20 euros. Total of about 35 Euros all in

I gave up sky 2 years ago, not worth the hassle and too expensive. I watch all Liverpool games live online and watch MotD on freeview tv.

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