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Old 29-09-20, 01:29 PM   #1
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2021 Champions League Draw

Is on Thursday!

We can draw Barca, Atlético, Shakhtar, Dortmund or Ajax from Pot 2.

3 and 4 tbc.

Pot 1
Bayern (GER, UEFA Champions League holders)
Sevilla (ESP, UEFA Europa League holders)
Real Madrid (ESP)
Liverpool (ENG)
Juventus (ITA)
Paris (FRA)
Zenit (RUS)
Porto (POR)

Pot 2
Barcelona (ESP) coefficient 128.000
Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 127.000
Manchester City (ENG) 116.000
Manchester United (ENG) 100.000
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 85.000
Dortmund (GER) 85.000
Chelsea (ENG) 83.000
Ajax (NED) 69.500

Pot 3 or 4
RB Leipzig (GER) 49.000
Inter (ITA) 44.000
Lazio (ITA) 41.000
Atalanta (ITA) 35.500
Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) 33.000
Marseille (FRA) 31.000
Club Brugge (BEL) 28.500
Mönchengladbach (GER) 26.000
İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR) 21.500
Rennes (FRA) 14.000

Six further teams will qualify via the play-offs.
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Old 29-09-20, 01:35 PM   #2
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From that draw, I want Atletico Madrid...fooking owe them one! then Monchengladbach & Rennes...haven't had them in years if at all!
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Old 29-09-20, 01:37 PM   #3
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Just to expand on the above, regardless of who wins the play offs;

Leipzig, Inter, Lazio, Atalanta are all definitely pot 3.

Lokomotiv, Marsaille, and Brugge are all definitely pot 4
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Old 29-09-20, 01:40 PM   #4
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Just to expand on the above, regardless of who wins the play offs;

Leipzig, Inter, Lazio, Atalanta are all definitely pot 3.

Lokomotiv, Marsaille, and Brugge are all definitely pot 4
Definitely potential for 1 or 2 group of deaths in there.
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Old 29-09-20, 01:51 PM   #5
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City and Bayern favourites at 9/2 and us 3rd favourites at 7/1.

City owners must lump billions on them to win every trophy for them to consistently be priced much lower than us.
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Old 29-09-20, 01:53 PM   #6
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Also odd that City are favourites given that they are in pot 2, so will get one tough team at least.
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Old 29-09-20, 02:01 PM   #7
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Feels like only yesterday we were scraping into pot 2.
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Old 29-09-20, 02:01 PM   #8
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Also odd that City are favourites given that they are in pot 2, so will get one tough team at least.
I wouldn't have City as favourites if they got a bye to the knockout rounds.
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Old 29-09-20, 02:12 PM   #9
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I wouldn't have City as favourites if they got a bye to the knockout rounds.
I wouldn't have them as favourites if they got a bye to the QF's and were given an easy draw against a mid table French team.
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Old 29-09-20, 02:15 PM   #10
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I wouldn't have City as favourites if they got a bye to the knockout rounds.

Yaaa defo not, don’t know where they get that from- the last 3 years they were knocked out by clear underdogs (even when we did them, we were 30 or so points behind in the league).

Also the only proper team they’ve ever beaten in the knockouts was Real Madrid last season- can’t remember them ever knocking out another half decent team.

Also throw in the fact that they’re gonna be under huge pressure after the last few failures, and I think it’s very likely that they’ll do nothing in it.... again!!
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Old 29-09-20, 02:36 PM   #11
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City and Bayern favourites at 9/2 and us 3rd favourites at 7/1.

City owners must lump billions on them to win every trophy for them to consistently be priced much lower than us.


They were odds on to win the league this season as well.

Imagine the pressure of Pep this season to win the Champions League will be at near intolerable levels. This is his last year at Citeh. If he doesn't win it this season then it's fair to say his time there has been a relative failure. Just like his time at Bayern was a relative failure.
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Old 29-09-20, 02:41 PM   #12
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City and Bayern favourites at 9/2 and us 3rd favourites at 7/1.

City owners must lump billions on them to win every trophy for them to consistently be priced much lower than us.
To say how we are generally lauded by all those who know football, We seem to be constantly ignored by the bookies, How we are not favourites or at least JF for this i have no idea. Same as the Premier league, 2/1 was outrageous.
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Old 29-09-20, 02:55 PM   #13
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To say how we are generally lauded by all those who know football, We seem to be constantly ignored by the bookies, How we are not favourites or at least JF for this i have no idea. Same as the Premier league, 2/1 was outrageous.
Apparently it was based on the XG and other data, which for us was deemed unsustainable. Lol.
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Old 29-09-20, 06:02 PM   #14
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To say how we are generally lauded by all those who know football, We seem to be constantly ignored by the bookies, How we are not favourites or at least JF for this i have no idea. Same as the Premier league, 2/1 was outrageous.
Think that suits Klopp!...he won't care as we will let our football do the talking!
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Old 29-09-20, 06:18 PM   #15
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From pot 2 I'd prefer getting Dortmund as firstly it will eliminate getting at least one top quality team in the 16s and secondly enable us to avoid getting tricky Leipzig from pot 3 in the group stages.
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Old 30-09-20, 01:25 AM   #16
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Some tricky ties, especially the Italian teams in Pot 3 but I don't fear a single team.

We're fucking brilliant.
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Old 30-09-20, 06:53 AM   #17
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Pot 2 is nasty Ajax, Dortmund or Shaktar be nice but we all know that's not going to happen
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Old 30-09-20, 09:26 AM   #18
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No thanks to Donetsk, that’s over 4000 miles round trip!
Ajax, Leipzig, Brugge. Perfect. Less travelling, more recovery.
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Old 30-09-20, 09:33 AM   #19
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Pot 2 is nasty Ajax, Dortmund or Shaktar be nice but we all know that's not going to happen
The easy ties will be saved for the Manc clubs
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Old 30-09-20, 09:37 AM   #20
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Gotta be careful here that we don't end up in opposition fans' forum threads called 'Opposition fan forum gems'.
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Gotta be careful here that we don't end up in opposition fans' forum threads called 'Opposition fan forum gems'.
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Old 30-09-20, 10:28 PM   #23
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I'd like

Ajax
Krasnodar
Bruges
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Hopefully;
Ajax
Krasnador
Midtjyland

And for a bit of fun prediction;
Dortmund,
Olympiakos
Stade Reims
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Old 30-09-20, 10:33 PM   #25
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Just realised this is our first season in the Champions League (in it’s modern format anyway) actually as English champions!
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Old 01-10-20, 06:21 AM   #26
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I'd like

Ajax
Krasnodar
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Hopefully;
Ajax
Krasnador
Midtjyland

And for a bit of fun prediction;
Dortmund,
Olympiakos
Stade Reims
Avoid - travel to Russia......Salzburg so we can have another look at Daka, Koita and the Hungarian lad that I’m not going to try to spell him name
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Old 01-10-20, 07:19 AM   #28
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Some tricky ties, especially the Italian teams in Pot 3 but I don't fear a single team.

We're fucking brilliant.
We were far from brilliant away from home in the champions league last year. Be interesting to see if thiago is the player to give us control. Hardly created anything and ball retention was very poor. Strange since in the league we were so dominant.
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We were far from brilliant away from home in the champions league last year. Be interesting to see if thiago is the player to give us control. Hardly created anything and ball retention was very poor. Strange since in the league we were so dominant.

I think it’s because in European football the quality is a bit higher overall, so you tend to have more difficulty controlling games the way we do at home.
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Later than usual, 4pm this afternoon
Are they faffing around with all the pre-draw award bollocks? Or is it straight on with the draw?

That guy with the beady eyes and glasses is an absolute creep.
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Champions league draw program has started.


Draw will be approx 4pm
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Champions league draw program has started.


Draw will be approx 4pm
They must be dragging it out then
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They must be dragging it out then
Yeah, there's a German Hair Metal band on stage at the moment. Look as though they're doing a full set.
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Old 01-10-20, 01:49 PM   #35
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Fancy getting Dortmund...as Sancho will be at United by the time we play them :-)
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Old 01-10-20, 02:59 PM   #36
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I think I'll be away for a short break the week of the first match.
I hope so. Can see myself enjoying a few G and T's while we hammer Barcelona!
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What happened to Drogba's locks?!!!
Gone all bone head...looks desperate there!
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Never gets any less tedious does it, fuck me.
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A lot of faffing about going on here...say the draw not for another 15 mins at least...wake me up then please!
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