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Old 18-05-19, 05:09 PM   #2721
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Just don't trust him from the spot
I don't know how many of them I would trust from the spot to be honest, penalty takers seems to be one weakness of this team, I hope they have been practicing.
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Old 18-05-19, 08:38 PM   #2722
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I feel sick even thinking about it going to penalties.
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Robertson and AOC as well, we have loads of good ball strikers.
I feel even more sick at the prospect of Robbo taking one of them.
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Old 18-05-19, 08:39 PM   #2723
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Liverpool left back taking a pen in the European cup, what could go wrong?!

Apart from the ginger one.
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Old 18-05-19, 08:41 PM   #2724
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I reckon i'd go with

Milner
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Milner/AOC off the bench
Shaqiri a good option too.
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Old 18-05-19, 08:44 PM   #2725
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we'd piss it if it was all 11 taking a pen
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Old 18-05-19, 08:46 PM   #2726
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Old 18-05-19, 11:33 PM   #2727
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Liverpool left back taking a pen in the European cup, what could go wrong?!

Apart from the ginger one.
He’s Scottish

...You lot think Liverpool have a history of making things hard for supporters.

A cockney pigeon will drop dead from the skies dying from a rare heart condition only affecting pidgins that peck on jellied eels. On its way to the ground the pigeon will pass ‘exactly’ the sweet spot between the cross bar and post. The spot that defines the perfect penalty. At this moment, the sweetest hit pressure penalty ever hit by a scotsman will smack into its carcass and deviate from success to. Ultimately. Failure.

Whilst Harry Kane on the other hand....

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Henderson would probably want one too
Just dont
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Old 22-05-19, 03:06 PM   #2729
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Careers cut short: Former Liverpool kid Nathan Eccleston

Nathan Eccleston always had one eye on the long term as he knows the career of a professional footballer is a short one – not that he envisaged his own time in the game would potentially end aged 25.

As a teenager Eccleston was playing for Liverpool in the Premier League and Europe. Loan moves and then a permanent switch to Blackpool led the striker to a life he had never imagined.

The Mancunian’s style did not suit the lower leagues and a mixture of managerial changes at Bloomfield Road, short-term loan spells and a general lack of playing time meant settling was not always easy having left the comfort of Anfield.

“There was a stage in football where I was no longer happy coming into training, the games on a Saturday and in midweek weren’t providing a positive impact on my life due to the lack of me playing,” he says.

Eccleston moved to Liverpool from Bury when he was 15 and enjoyed the luxuries that came with playing for an elite club where everything was done for you; there were few worries as the club ensured the focus was always on football but his move to Blackpool was a stark realisation of what life was like away from the Premier League.

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“It was a big wake-up call for me when I left Liverpool for Blackpool. They had two coaches, the manager Ian Holloway and his assistant Steve Thompson, and we had a physio and that was literally the first team staff.

“At Liverpool we had 20 staff members for the first team alone and even in the Under-21s you had 10 plus. At Blackpool you have to wash your own kit, there’s one physio to a squad of 30 players, the facilities there weren’t the same but that’s life, that’s not making excuses.”

Adapting to life at Bloomfield Road tough as injuries kept Eccleston out of action, something he puts down to the change in environment. Things were exacerbated by the lack of medical facilities, forcing him to find his own treatment away from the club.

“I kept getting recurring hamstring injuries at Blackpool and I think that was down to the training, the nutrition and a lot of those things that people take for granted.

“I had to go seek my own physio on occasions, I went down to London to see a specialist that I sourced through a friend at Charlton, I did additional fitness sessions by myself as I didn’t think my fitness was up to scratch, so there were certain things I had to seek out to keep myself at a certain level.”

Over his career Eccleston had numerous loan spells in the lower leagues at clubs such as Tranmere, Charlton, Carlisle and Coventry. As a player he struggled to adapt to the more physical and direct style in the lower echelons.

“If you’re good enough you’ll make it at the highest level and if you’re not you’ll end up filtering down and I just never envisaged when I was a young boy playing at the levels of League One and Two for the rest of my life.

“League One and Two is still a good standard, it’s still professional, there are some very good players, we’ve seen in recent years players come from that level and lower and go on to make a massive impact in the Premier League. I’m not saying it’s a bad level at all, I just felt at the time I could not really adapt.”

Eccleston’s final spell as a professional footballer – although he is not officially retired, came in Hungary in 2016 playing for Békéscsaba 1912 Előre. As a youngster he always wanted to play abroad – he was linked with moves to a number of top European clubs – so he thought it was a perfect opportunity to test himself.

“It is something I’ve always been intrigued by, the style of play is a little bit different to the English leagues. So it always appealed to me, the opportunity arose, so I thought ‘if not now, when?’, so I went to play in Hungary and I was right, the style of football was different, it suited my natural flair for the game.

“I enjoyed it right up to the point I got injured. The lifestyle was completely different, the experience was different to being at home in England, not having the luxury of family and friends around you, speaking a different language, it was a life experience as well as a footballing one, and sometimes that is what you miss out on in life.

“I often see life as a goal and a challenge, something to be lived, not to participate in and it’s something that I feel very strongly about. I had a couple of League One and Two options at the time but the Hungary decision was because the desire to play in Europe had been a strong one since I was a young boy and the Hungary option was the best one for me.”

At the end of his time in Europe, Eccleston returned to the UK where he spent time on trial with Rochdale and trained with other clubs but injury and a lack of fitness made him re-evaluate his career.

“I went away with Rochdale, I played in pre-season with them, it was the first time I’d been in England for pre-season for two years, I loved the camaraderie in the dressing room with the manager and the players but we couldn’t come to an agreement, which was fine.

“I then trained at a couple of clubs, one in particular, but on the second day – because I hadn’t done that much fitness work – I got injured, they wanted me to come back, but at that stage I thought ‘OK, if I’m going to really go and play again I need to put my body in the best shape possible’ and if I am being honest with myself, I thought I wasn’t not ready to train or play at level due to the lack of training I’d done myself and I had to question myself asking ‘what am I doing this for? Am I doing it for the money? The game? Am I doing it because of circumstance?’ because, ultimately, I had a business, I was in control, I was bringing immense value to people all around the world with my designs, with my message.”

While still playing in Scotland, aged just 24, he set up his own e-commerce business Peaches Sport, which makes women’s activewear, to ensure he had something to support him upon retiring from football but it is now his main focus in life.

“I just realised while I was playing football I needed something different; people have different vices and I just needed to stimulate my mind in a positive way, something that was going to aid me long-term and be financial supportive to myself rather than rely on other corporations to provide that.

“I did a lot of research into women’s activewear and fitness space. I knew it was something I could provide value to, I felt like fashionable activewear for women was missing in the UK or the prices of the garments were very expensive and didn’t really appeal to the majority and wasn’t affordable, so I felt it was a space I could add value to. I knew a few women who struggled to find the right gear, to suit their body shapes. We got Katie Price in to model some of our garments, which was great because she's got absolutely massive tits."

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“Football is very short-term, most people retire between the ages of 30 and 33, some players go on to have longer careers and I just felt like, the way my career was going, I just needed something to provide a separate income and to stimulate my mind away from football, to give me something to give myself something to look forward to doing, to give myself another challenge.”

Footballers often become institutionalised and rarely have to think for themselves, as clubs decide when they train, what they eat and what they can say. Eccleston is still passionate about the game but he feels being in charge of his own life has made him happier.

“I had to make a decision. I still love the game, I still like playing and even though I’ve not played for so long, I’ve still not said I’m retired and that I’m done with it, as life’s not like that as you never know what will happen, you never know who might call you, what will be will be. I am not trying to seek anything, I am going to trying to be anything, I am just trying to put myself in the best position physically and mentally and what will be will be.

“Asking agents to speak to clubs on my behalf, asking ‘see if you can get me here, get me there’, I didn’t like that feeling. If somebody wants you, they can have you and they can call your phone. I know other people will look at that differently but that’s just business. A lot of people are doing things out of circumstance. I just made a decision to take control.”
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Old 22-05-19, 03:37 PM   #2731
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Lfc TV should make a documentary version of this thread. 4/5 players each year different stages of their career and life after football
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Old 22-05-19, 05:38 PM   #2732
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Good read on what became of Nathan Eccleston.
The comments they left on are pretty crude, fuck knows had bad the ones deleted were
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I think he's talking about the comments on the twitter link
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Fantastic read

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José Enrique did not cry after the eight-hour operation in which surgeons removed a tumour from his brain or during the two months of radiotherapy, head strapped down, face in a mask. He did not cry in intensive care either, as he lay in hospital with a tube up his nose or through the endless headaches. The day he heard his cancer had gone, he did not shed a tear and he has not since: not in sessions with his psychiatrist or those moments when he cannot take his mind off it, struggling to assimilate everything that has happened over the last year and is still happening now.

It’s not that he does not want to; it’s that he is not able to.

“They went in through the nose, past the tear ducts and now I can’t cry,” he says, tracing his fingers up across his face and from right to left. “This eye produces almost nothing, a drop maybe; and this one, where the tumour was, nothing at all. Crying’s good for you: it’s a release, cleansing, but I don’t have that. You try – especially in my position – but it won’t happen. It’s a minor issue compared to everything else, but it’s probably for life.”

Life is the word. It’s a sunny morning in Valencia a year after the symptoms appeared, a month after he was told the cancer has gone, and the former Liverpool and Newcastle defender remembers the fear, the shaking, the disbelief, asking doctors if he would die. It started on 12 May 2018, eight months after retiring because of knee injury that provoked anxiety attacks, requiring therapy. By the next morning, he says, “I knew something was really wrong. I was frightened but I never imagined it was a tumour.”

He chronicles events with precision and disarming honesty, humour even, while a Japanese Pomeranian called Simba hops on to the sofa. Occasionally one of his cats walks in then out again. His partner Amy, from Bolton, recalls details and dates, cup of tea in hand. José Enrique explains how that night he struggled with the light, eyes hurting, vision blurred, describes the headache and waking the next day unable to see. He spent eight hours in A&E, undergoing a CAT scan, then an MRI, eventually diagnosed with a chordoma, a very rare brain tumour, on the nerve behind his left eye.

“The doctor sat me down and said: ‘Don’t be frightened by the word I’m about to say.’ When you say that word, everyone thinks it’s a death sentence. But he said: ‘It’s not like that: what you have is a specific tumour that affects one in a million. Don’t worry. It’s canc...’”

There is a slight pause, the phrase unfinished. José Enrique does not say the c-word then or, in fact, at all over two hours. “… ‘malignant’ …” he continues, picking up where the doctor left off. “He said: ‘It’s malignant, very aggressive, but localised. So try to stay calm.’

“If I can thank my knee for anything,” he says, tapping it, “it’s that it changed me mentally. When I had my injury, I couldn’t accept it. Psychologically I suffered: I had a bad time, psychiatrist, pills, everything, so I surprised myself with how positive I was with this illness. Together, Amy and I said: ‘It is what it is, we have to fight, let’s get on with it.’”



José Enrique found a 39-year-old specialist from Valencia, Dr Juan Antonio Simal, a month passing between diagnosis and surgery to remove the tumour. One day something strange happened. “I thought it was a miracle. I get my sight back. The doctor thought the tumour had bled, which is what affected my vision. Then the blood dries and your sight returns. The tumour’s still there; it’s not gone. But there’s that hope. Bloody hell, I can see. Maybe that means …”

It did not. “Of course,” he says.

“I went into the operation in perfect condition: that was [emotionally] hard. It wasn’t like going in blind, knowing something had to be done. Instead, I’m thinking: ‘What if they touch something and then I can’t see?’ The tumour grows from the base of the cranium and the really dangerous thing is it presses nerves, other important things. When they remove it, release the pressure, you don’t know if you’ll be the same. That frightened me: I’m 32, wondering.”

The tumour had attached to an artery, requiring a complex operation. Then came intensive care, then proton therapy in Paris for two months. “It’s a big machine: when I went in, I’d try not to look at it. It’s like a beam aimed here, where I lost my hair,” he says, pointing to circle on his head. He signals the redness by his ears: for a couple of months, he could not hear properly. “They’re radiating your brain. They put a mask on you and tie you down. There’s a nose hole to breathe but it’s an oppressive, stifling feeling.”

José Enrique met others having the same treatment. “We’re all human: footballers get put up here but this happens to anyone. I wanted people to realise that and to say something, especially in Spain: I did it all on seguridad social [the NHS]. Sometimes people complain about the health service but the quality of treatment is so high. They complain about tax too but it’s for things like this. I spoke to a Chilean living in Barcelona, having the same treatment. Every session costs €1,800; I had 38 sessions. It’s a lot. He said: ‘If this had happened to me in Chile, I couldn’t have paid. I would have probably died.’”

A scan in April showed the cancer had gone. “I expected it – the machine has a 95% success rate – but it made me immensely happy, especially for Amy: she could finally cry.” He stops, grins. “I like being looked after a bit, but for some time I couldn’t do anything, couldn’t move, had to sleep at an angle, couldn’t go to the toilet. It was difficult for her. She’s my everything: I already thought so but even more so after this.”

José Enrique is engaging, good company, instantly likable. It’s remarkable how cheerful he is, chatty, relaxed. He looks well, too: still athletic. “The positive part of this is it’s changed my thinking,” he says, problems put into perspective. But there is space to fill, a life already at a watershed to reconstruct. “During treatment it’s easier than afterwards. I’m seeing a psychologist. I’m too conscious of my body. How do I feel? How’s my eye? The fear is always there. The other day I felt dizzy and you wonder why. It’s not there now, probably never will be, but …”

The but hangs, emphasis added: “… but it could appear. I have to live with it.”


How? “I’m learning that: when I work it out, I’ll let you know,” he says, laughing. “Some people use meditation, mindfulness but focusing on your breathing takes you back inside, so that doesn’t help. The psychiatrist says: if you’re constantly ‘inside’ your body, listen for the breeze, birds, go outside.”

“Towards the end of my career, after all the injuries, I didn’t want to continue. I didn’t want to hate football so I stopped. But you struggle; it’s over. Sadly, I retired early and that was hard to accept but this illness helped me see it’s not so important. My focus is getting 100% well, which I’m not yet. And football helps with that, with everything. Humans need routine. People say: ‘If I had money, I wouldn’t work,’ but after two months you’d shoot yourself. I’m still adapting but coping better. I do a bit of sport, work with my brother in his agency, speak to players, watch games.”



José Enrique was in Paris when Liverpool played PSG and in Barcelona for the Champions League semi-final first leg – high in the Camp Nou among the fans. Alberto Moreno had got him tickets and the view was not great, he jokes, but the supporters were “spectacular”. “They sang to me, hugged me, asked how I was, but weren’t overwhelming. I guess because of what happened.” He’ll be in Madrid on Saturday. “This time Liverpool have to win; they deserve it,” he says.

If the final is the culmination of the club’s year, for their former player there is another game a week later, another stage in his recovery, another target. He has been invited to play for Liverpool Legends in Hong Kong. Apart from one kickabout with mates, it will be his first game since retiring. He is listing his teammates when he stops, excuses himself and heads to the bathroom to spit. Since the operation, mucus builds up. “Disgusting,” he says apologetically as he returns. “I can breathe but it has to come out of your mouth,” he explains, getting back to the match, maybe even the most significant he has played.


I worried about travelling so far at first. On a flight to Miami once I had a panic attack. I thought I was going mad: that was the worst day of my life – with the day I found out about the illness. It hit me hard. You feel really sick and don’t know why. I didn’t know it was anxiety then. This time, ask the doctor for a thousand pills and: Pop! Sleep. It’ll be a lovely to wear a Liverpool shirt again.”

Just one thing. “I asked the doctor and he says I can head the ball,” he says. “But I’m not going to. If I can avoid it, I will. I mean, I avoided it as a player because I was terrible, so I’m not about to change now I have an excuse: ‘Can’t, sorry.’” And with that José Enrique starts laughing again.
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Thanks for sharing that, good to hear he's doing well!
Looks like another LFC fan for life!
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Old 28-05-19, 03:20 PM   #2739
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I love Jose Enrique's personality and he seems an all round good egg, but shouldn't he be playing for Newcastle legends?
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All I know is that it's no surprise to see a shirtless canvas on the wall of his home. (Bottom of the Guardian link).

No surprise whatsoever
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Old 29-05-19, 04:31 PM   #2743
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if he could get fit then he would still be a handy player for someone.

I always thought that he might end back up at Newcastle. But if they are bought by Sheik Mansours cousin, then they will have their sights set a lot higher.

Andy Carroll will end up at an upper tier championship club or a crowd like Crystal Palace. Probably at the end of the transfer window.

We did well to get 17.5m for him back then. Brendan Rodgers was adamant he wouldn't fit into his plans at the very start of his LFC tenure. Even when we had no alternative options at the time (Sturridge didn't arrive until 6 months later).

So well done Brendan. Although he somewhat negated that at the end of his tenure by signing Benteke for £35m!!!
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34 goals in 140 something games appearances, things didn't exactly work out for poor Andy.
To be honest I'm amazed he played that many games, even if a load of them were from the bench.

I can't believe that we signed him
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if he could get fit then he would still be a handy player for someone.

I always thought that he might end back up at Newcastle. But if they are bought by Sheik Mansours cousin, then they will have their sights set a lot higher.

Andy Carroll will end up at an upper tier championship club or a crowd like Crystal Palace. Probably at the end of the transfer window.

We did well to get 17.5m for him back then. Brendan Rodgers was adamant he wouldn't fit into his plans at the very start of his LFC tenure. Even when we had no alternative options at the time (Sturridge didn't arrive until 6 months later).

So well done Brendan. Although he somewhat negated that at the end of his tenure by signing Benteke for £35m!!!
Carroll and Benteke dream team
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To be honest I'm amazed he played that many games, even if a load of them were from the bench.

I can't believe that we signed him
I'm amazed he scored that many goals
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To be honest I'm amazed he played that many games, even if a load of them were from the bench.

I can't believe that we signed him
That game v man city, he was unplayable, but fuck all else. Glue factory or Iceland lasagne.
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Old 04-06-19, 04:41 PM   #2752
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He was ours for a good few years but spent most of it on loan
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Old 04-06-19, 07:06 PM   #2754
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he Kariused that, good and proper.
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Craig Bellamy is to be the New u21 coach at Anderlecht.
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Craig Bellamy is to be the New u21 golf coach at Anderlecht.
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I was playing doctors and nurses with my female cousin. I was about 6 or 7, and we were inserting little toy stuffs in our bum holes. Does it count as snogging?
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