Racism in Football

fidget · 23-10-11, 09:04 PM

Apologies if already posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=A5iZmMrDZvc

Edit: don't actaully think he does
can mods close please?

Craig_H · 23-10-11, 09:04 PM

Or calling the ref a 'blind cunt'...

fidget · 23-10-11, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig_H

Or calling the ref a 'blind cunt'...

well that's fucking sightist anyway

Exiled_red · 23-10-11, 09:09 PM

Has it been reported to the referee or the FA?

Craig_H · 23-10-11, 09:11 PM

Nope, but i'm sure Evra will get around to it eventually.

Exiled_red · 23-10-11, 09:11 PM

Shaggy · 23-10-11, 10:14 PM

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/117606.html

Quote:

Terry denies racism allegations

Chelsea captain John Terry has issued a statement to express his disappointment at claims he racially abused QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.

Videos have been circulating on the internet on Sunday night claiming to show Terry insulting Ferdinand towards the end of Chelsea's 1-0 defeat at Loftus Road.

However, Terry insists the footage is misleading and that Ferdinand has not made any accusations against him.

In a statement, Terry said: "I've seen that there's a lot of comments on the internet with regards to some video footage of me in today's game. I'm disappointed that people have leapt to the wrong conclusions about the context of what I was seen to be saying to Anton Ferdinand.

"I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him. I responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term about brown people. I would never say such a thing, and I'm saddened that people would think so. I have known Anton for a long time and spoke to him about it after the game and there was no problem between us. I congratulated him on their win. He has not accused me of any wrongful remark.

"It was clear it was all a misunderstanding at the time. After the result today, I am saddened to be dealing with these wrongful allegations. I am the proud captain of one of the most internationally diverse teams in the Premier League and I absolutely believe that there is no place for racism in sport and indeed in any walk of life."

Craig_H · 23-10-11, 10:16 PM

Quote:

I never used that term about brown people

So he doesnt use the word 'black' in that context - does that mean he actually called him a 'brown cunt' then?

What a fucking bellend he is. The fact is, it looked like he was saying 'blind cunt' and that would've easily been a simple get out for him - but since he didnt actually use it, i'm now thinking he did actually say 'black cunt'.

"brown people"

Christ, he is (or his speech writers) so keen to avoid using the word 'black'.

I'm surprised he didnt go the whole hog and refer to black people as 'coloureds'

IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST · 23-10-11, 10:19 PM

Shaggy · 23-10-11, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig_H

So he doesnt use the word 'black' in that context - does that mean he actually called him a 'brown cunt' then?

What a fucking bellend he is. The fact is, it looked like he was saying 'blind cunt' and that would've easily been a simple get out for him - but since he didnt actually use it, i'm now thinking he did actually say 'black cunt'.

"brown people"

Christ, he is (or his speech writers) so keen to avoid using the word 'black'.

I'm surprised he didnt go the whole hog and refer to black people as 'coloureds'

Hooray!

Taxi for Craig

Click the link

Tiny little edit

Red_Polo · 23-10-11, 10:19 PM

I would have been fervently in defence of him before, but seriously, 'brown people'? Wtf

Red_Polo · 23-10-11, 10:20 PM

Fuck you Shaggy, fuck you

Shaggy · 23-10-11, 10:20 PM

Craig_H · 23-10-11, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig_H

Christ, he is (or his speech writers)

Actually, i take this back - clearly he came up with this statement himself, judging by the incorrect grammar here:

Quote:

"I've seen that there's a lot of comments on the internet

IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST · 23-10-11, 10:21 PM

@craig

Craig_H · 23-10-11, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

Hooray!

Taxi for Craig

Click the link

Tiny little edit

You cunting cunto

I should've fucking know, should've fucking known so easily! The most prolific 'quote editor' on the forum and i still fell for it!

I trusted you, you fuckhead

Shaggy · 23-10-11, 10:22 PM

Craig_H · 23-10-11, 10:25 PM

Mods, delete this thread forever

Red_Polo · 23-10-11, 10:27 PM

Says more about John Terry's public image than anything else if you ask me.

Craig_H · 23-10-11, 10:31 PM

Very true. Not unlike the way someone posts some utter bobbins attributed to Hodgson and i cant even tell now if the sheer absurd babble is genuine, or made up

Zapater · 24-10-11, 12:27 AM

On a more serious note though, I don't know how anyone can conclude what he was saying exactly in that video link, he could've been saying just about anything. I don't like Terry on any level, but fuck people are malicious little creatures. (As Craig has discovered in this thread)

Mr Darko · 24-10-11, 12:33 AM

^ Exactly. Over the next few months they'll be loads of these claims in many matches. Surprising that within 8 days there's been 3 similar incidents involving big clubs.

Suarez and Evra
Fabregas and Kanoute
Terry and Ferdinand

The Evra bullshit effect.

McDermotX · 24-10-11, 02:44 AM

Quote:

FootballAgentPM Peter Morrison
John Terry has categorically denied making a racist slur against Anton Ferdinand but hasn't ruled out making a move on his bird

IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST · 24-10-11, 05:59 AM

Kanoute? I noticed he was sent off, that have something to do with it then?

Shaggy · 24-10-11, 11:37 PM

Quote:

richard_conway Richard Conway
Metropolitan Police confirm to BBC they have been notified of an incident of alleged racial abuse at the QPR v Chelsea game on Sunday.

Craig_H · 24-10-11, 11:56 PM

Get in

I heard that there'd been no complaints from any party and was bordering on making one myself.

Kenneth · 24-10-11, 11:57 PM

What a strange attitude.

Craig_H · 24-10-11, 11:58 PM

???

I'm not happy that racism took place, i'm happy that the racist cunt may actually get sanctioned for it.

Kenneth · 24-10-11, 11:59 PM

Speculative accusations of racism part of the game now?

Craig_H · 25-10-11, 12:00 AM

I have no idea what you're talking about.

RichC · 25-10-11, 09:33 AM

Seems to me there is a case to answer, why come out and try to explain something he'd not been accused of yet.

Vermilion · 25-10-11, 09:35 AM

You would think it would be pretty clear to Ferdinand whether he did say something , no language barrier with Terry.

edit: Oh....hang on...

IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST · 25-10-11, 09:36 AM

So a member of the public put a complaint in to the met police.
Which one of you was it?

Shaggy · 25-10-11, 02:57 PM

So Terry is not disputing that he says "fucking black cunt" in the footage...but that we missed the first bit saying "Oi, Anton, I never said...."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...qpr?CMP=twt_gu

Quote:

Anton Ferdinand will decide on Tuesday whether to report the Chelsea captain John Terry to the Football Association over an alleged racist slur, after speaking face to face with the manager at Queens Park Rangers, Neil Warnock.

Video footage circulated on the internet of an incident towards the end of QPR's 1-0 victory in which it has been suggested Terry calls the home defender a "fucking black cunt" as he retreats into his own half of the pitch. Terry denies it and issued a statement on Sunday evening in which he claimed viewers had "leapt to the wrong conclusions about the context of what I was seen to be saying to Anton Ferdinand".

Terry said he had been responding to accusations from the opposing centre-half that he had used racist language. "I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him," he said. "I responded aggressively, saying I never used that term." The key part of the footage, where the England captain said he shouted "Oi, Anton, I never said …", is obscured by Ashley Cole walking across the camera shot.

The furore over the incident, and a fractious fixture which saw Chelsea reduced to nine men before the interval, is understood to have spilled into the tunnel after the final whistle, with angry altercations involving players from both sides. Terry and the home goalkeeper, Paddy Kenny, continued arguments that had sparked on the pitch, and other players are believed to have become involved in what is a narrow corridor outside the dressing rooms.

Terry said he had spoken to Ferdinand once tempers had calmed "and there was no problem between us", saying the incident had been "a misunderstanding". Yet the notion that the pair departed amicably has been rejected by sources at QPR. The club have declined to comment publicly on the issue and Ferdinand – normally a keen twitterer – has maintained silence.

The Rangers players were given the day off on Monday after their victory but will report back to their Harlington training centre on Tuesday morning. The club made preliminary contact with him by texton Monday, with the defender – brother of the former England captain, Rio Ferdinand – and one of his representatives to meet Warnock after training to discuss whether the club will ask the FA to investigate. It is understood the player and the club were minded to pursue the matter, though the 26-year-old asked to sleep on the matter before making a final decision.

Should a complaint be made and if Terry is found guilty, any charge would inevitably have serious repercussions for the 30-year-old's position as England captain. The FA declined to comment but does technically have it within its power to investigate, even if no formal complaint is made. Terry was due to make a personal appearance at the opening of a pet shop in Surbiton on Monday but withdrew late from the event, leaving around 100 supporters disappointed.

Meanwhile, the FA is reviewing the post-match conduct of the Chelsea manager, André Villas-Boas, after he confronted the referee, Chris Foy, in the tunnel. Onlookers described the Portuguese's language as "industrial", with Villas-Boas subsequently admitting he had been "very aggressive" with the referee as he complained at perceived inconsistencies in the official's display.

The Chelsea manager claimed Foy had "lost it" and was "card happy" towards his team, comments that could prompt the FA to impose either a fine or touchline suspension. It remains to be seen whether Foy's match report includes mention either of the players' altercations in the tunnel or Villas-Boas's reaction after the final whistle.

The referee sent off Didier Drogba, who apologised to his team-mates in the changing room post-match, for a two-footed lunge at Adel Taarabt, as well as José Bosingwa for a professional foul on Shaun Wright-Phillips, and booked a further seven visiting players. "I thought he reffed it superbly," said the QPR midfielder Shaun Derry. "These big players have a knack of persuading refs to make different decisions but the ref was very strong. The sendings off were the right decisions, and most of the yellow cards were for Chelsea players, and I felt we kept our heads.

"We wanted to unnerve them and put them under pressure in the right areas, and that plan came off. What do you do? Do you stand off these players and let them dictate, or do you get amongst them and mix it with them? I don't think we were vicious in any way or over-aggressive in anything we did. But these top players aren't used to losing to teams of our stature. Perhaps it hurt them because they showed that even the best players can lose their heads."

Alex · 25-10-11, 03:03 PM

I know its a pretty serious offence if true, but did they really need to include this line....

Quote:

Terry was due to make a personal appearance at the opening of a pet shop in Surbiton on Monday but withdrew late from the event

Unless its a Shagg-ism

Lee · 25-10-11, 03:03 PM

Let me get this right.

Terry is saying that he yelled "Oi, Anton, I never said that you're a fucking black cunt", in an aggressive manner. Yet the camera's only picked up the second part of that?

Is that what he's saying?

Shaggy · 25-10-11, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I know its a pretty serious offence if true, but did they really need to include this line....

Unless its a Shagg-ism

Haha nope

...never touched this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Let me get this right.

Terry is saying that he yelled "Oi, Anton, I never said that you're a fucking black cunt", in an aggressive manner. Yet the camera's only picked up the second part of that?

Is that what he's saying?

Yep. Why would he even feel the need to say the "fucking black cunt" bit?

Exiled_red · 25-10-11, 03:07 PM

I'm not just saying this because it's Terry or Chelsea, but given what was picked up by the cameras surely the FA have to investigate whether Ferdinand complains or not?

Shaggy · 25-10-11, 03:08 PM

It's gonna get very messy.

Maxiedge · 25-10-11, 03:11 PM

Wow, just wow. The England captain has just been caught being racist on camera. Wow. No wonder Villas-Boas is trying to put a line under it all (BBC Sport)

Apparently, Evra is complaining too as he was watching the game in 3D