06-01-21, 02:23 PM
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Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
Join Date: May 2010
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Yeah I do think he's gone alright, just hope he can still put in top performances until the seasons end. Gutted to lose him to be honest, he's a fabulous player.
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06-01-21, 02:27 PM
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Paisley
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 18,057
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He's free to sign a pre contract agreement with a non English club isn't he?
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06-01-21, 02:28 PM
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#963
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Paisley
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 43,383
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spud_gun
He's free to sign a pre contract agreement with a non English club isn't he?
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Yes, from the start of Jan, although he supposedly said he wouldn't talk to other clubs while still talking to us or something like that.
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06-01-21, 02:31 PM
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If you fail once....
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,753
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Be a fool to sign a pre-contract with Barca tho, cos I feel that Koeman wouldn't be there in the summer, so if he's wanting that link-up he'd be better off seeing where Koeman goes next?!
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06-01-21, 02:41 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,382
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if he gets a bad injury, then he could get nothing. So he could potentially be looking at a 30m loss there. His advisors will be all over him to sign a contract with someone.
I hope his form doesn't drop once he does sign with someone else.
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11-01-21, 10:35 AM
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Fagan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,562
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What a shit situation for everyone. Been a legend.
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11-01-21, 12:18 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,509
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BG1973
What a shit situation for everyone. Been a legend.
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True, but each season we should be looking to replace/upgrade at least one player from the first eleven... if they all hit 30+ at the same time, we'll be scrambling to do a complete rebuild. Rather lose one or two key players a season if we can replace them with someone better or younger, preferably both... not sure Alaba ticks the second box on that criteria. Awesome player though and versatile to boot. He would be a decent replacement, at least in the short-term (2-3 years)
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11-01-21, 12:27 PM
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Benitez
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 817
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Originally Posted by Tribute
True, but each season we should be looking to replace/upgrade at least one player from the first eleven... if they all hit 30+ at the same time, we'll be scrambling to do a complete rebuild. Rather lose one or two key players a season if we can replace them with someone better or younger, preferably both...
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Bob Paisley always looked to replace 2 or 3. Our downfall began when Kenny didn't do that and instead allowed the team grew old (and too old) together.
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11-01-21, 02:25 PM
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Fagan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,562
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Just hope he realises how valued he is by the fans. Shame nobody in the stadium to tell him.
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11-01-21, 02:38 PM
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Big Girl's Blouse
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 32,833
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He's sung about more than Hendo, Alisson or Trent. Not sure players take that much notice of the crowd
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11-01-21, 02:41 PM
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Dan Ashcroft
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 51,085
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I don't think he's looking for love tbh.
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11-01-21, 03:41 PM
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Fagan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,562
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No, but looks like he's going to leave under a cloud feeling abut undervalued.
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11-01-21, 09:34 PM
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Shankly
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 9,808
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul12

Bob Paisley always looked to replace 2 or 3. Our downfall began when Kenny didn't do that and instead allowed the team grew old (and too old) together.
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Kenny liked to spend IIRC. I think his judgement went a bit towards the end when we were signing the likes of David Speedie though.
Maybe not surprising all things considered.
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12-01-21, 09:36 AM
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Shankly
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,509
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BG1973
No, but looks like he's going to leave under a cloud feeling abut undervalued.
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...he might feel undervalued by the hierarchy at the club, but I'm sure he doesn't think that about the fans, manager and backroom staff... he always comes across like he's proper entrenched in the fabric of those groups.
This is a commercial decision more than anything. He needs one last payday and as much as he wants to stay, he also wants serious wedge and a long-term contract... it's a crossroads. The club don't value him to the extent he wants. He'll see it as some kind of 'loyalty contract' for services rendered and the club will be looking at younger, cheaper, longer-term replacements to benefit the team and club. The last chunky contract is always the toughest one to negotiate or come to terms with...
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12-01-21, 10:01 AM
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Dalglish
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,191
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I get that he wants to maximize his earnings, but once you get to a certain point (5 mill PA), surely it would become more about on-field success?
He seems to be an intelligent guy, so it cannot be an agent lead thing?
That said, perhaps he just wants to sample a couple of seasons in Spain or Italy?
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12-01-21, 08:02 PM
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Fagan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribute
...he might feel undervalued by the hierarchy at the club, but I'm sure he doesn't think that about the fans, manager and backroom staff... he always comes across like he's proper entrenched in the fabric of those groups.
This is a commercial decision more than anything. He needs one last payday and as much as he wants to stay, he also wants serious wedge and a long-term contract... it's a crossroads. The club don't value him to the extent he wants. He'll see it as some kind of 'loyalty contract' for services rendered and the club will be looking at younger, cheaper, longer-term replacements to benefit the team and club. The last chunky contract is always the toughest one to negotiate or come to terms with...
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Yeah hope he does realise what we all think of him. Would hate for him to leave feeling anything other than a superstar which is what's he's been. Hence my note about pity fans not in grounds to let him know all that.
Whatever happens, legend.
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13-01-21, 09:49 AM
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Paisley
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 43,383
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I think there is more to it than money. According to reports we first offered him a contract 18 months ago that would double his £75k a week wages to £150k. If his contract runs to the end without signing a new one that decision not to sign has cost him £7.5m in lost wages (equivalent to a year's salary at £150k), supposedly the dispute between him and the club is over an extra year, he wants 4 years we offered 3.
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13-01-21, 10:05 AM
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The Wisp
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 20,492
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Has he got kids? Who knows, could be over schooling or something
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13-01-21, 10:54 AM
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Cuboid Humanoid
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 29,483
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Surely England is now a less attractive place if you’ve family back in the EU? I mean, it’s a far less attractive place for me post Brexit and my family is here.
My missus is already experiencing issues with practicalities regarding her own family back in Estonia, even after ignoring my arguably subjective take on the issue.
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