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Old 28-06-08, 11:06 AM   #41
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this was posted on eseason on lfctv by yankfield

Right,lads,
an update as promised,
I had a good chat today with a mate on the payroll at Laing O`Rourkes,

Firstly there are NO enabling works to be carried out as all of these were completed approx. 18 months ago for architects and design specifications to be drawn up etc.etc.
The only work possibly being done is removal of some old trees and shrubbery and the boarding up of an enclosed section by the car park to house a limited amount of plant, machinery and cabins..................................
But this was pre-arranged for when Laings contract on the `Triangle` at L1 was completed in September,

The phrase "No silver has been exchanged" was very prominent when pressed about the steel requirements and other materials .....................

Laing O`Rourkes had an agreement to move onto the Stanley park site and the crunch financial deadline is Monday 15th Sept.

If there has been no investment secured prior to then, they have other contracts [Pinderfields and Hope Hospital are but 2] which will then take priority and further potential work at the Stanley site will be delayed indefinitely as they have machinery and a work force to prioritise,and new deadlines and penalty clauses to beat.

The cowboys have not complied with any guarantees regarding construction contracts or material purchasing and word within the firm is that they have nil confidence in the Yanks being forthcoming in the near future......

This boarding up and housing of plant etc, is just part of the original agreement with LCC, and is nothing to do with excavation work, unless they receive `bona fide` financial commitment from the `Custodians` of the club,

The general consensus is that they are using this situation as a `smokescreen` until they can,
A) Find suitable financial investment in time to meet the stadium commencement deadline and to refinance their existing loans,
If so they will give the go ahead for `phase 1` the initial excavation work for underground car park and foundations,
This strategy will enable them to offer the entire project including LFC [plus all existing loans] at a far bigger profit margin for themselves than is already `on the table`,
It remains to be seen if ANY group is willing to match this increased valuation especially in the current economic climate..............

B) If no offers, then they have no alternative but to plough on whilst continuing to borrow more and more as each phase requires, in the hope that they will not be turned down as the finance houses have loaned deeply to them from the start,
This will be no personal risk to them as ALL loans will now be placed on the club, and they will be guaranteed full backing as they could use any objections as an excuse for any delays or abandonment of the project,

C)If they cannot raise the necessary funds in the required timescale, then they may have no alternative than to seek out any prospective investors to purchase the club.......obviously it is in the `Custodians` interest to begin all aforementioned works to obtain the highest possible premium on their franchise.

The whole malarkey seems more and more iffy with every day that passes.........
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Old 28-06-08, 01:06 PM   #42
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That all makes sense to me now. I think myself, and a few others, have jumped the gun regarding recent happenings at the park. Sure, there's a massive lay by for coaches being layed on Priory Road and some pavement renewal giong on on Anfield Road aswell as the ongoing regeneration of the Walton side of the park.

However, apart from a Laing O'Rourke container, there is absolutely no work going on inside the projected site area. Now some may say "Give them a chance PP was only finalised the other week" but time is of the essence with projects of this magnitude. You simply haven't got weeks to dilly dally about. Time is money. Gillette and Hicks were happy to come out this weeks and announce how happy they were to see that work can start blah blah... . This means they now have only a week or two to actually get some major work started. After this period is up IMO they'll be shown up yet again as the bullshitters they are.

The council should force their hand. They've told us 60M was borrowed to start the project. They now have full PP (waiting to be signed) so why is fuck all happening? I still cling to the notion that these cunts can't, and never will be able to, raise the cash for the stadium and will eventually have to sell. I believe LCC could be putting a lot more pressure on them than they are at present. This process is grinding slowly but I believe it is also grinding small. I now believe that DIC's tactic is to sit by and "starve" this pair of twats out. All that is required from us is a little patience.
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Old 28-06-08, 01:51 PM   #44
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That all makes sense to me now. I think myself, and a few others, have jumped the gun regarding recent happenings at the park. Sure, there's a massive lay by for coaches being layed on Priory Road and some pavement renewal giong on on Anfield Road aswell as the ongoing regeneration of the Walton side of the park.

However, apart from a Laing O'Rourke container, there is absolutely no work going on inside the projected site area. Now some may say "Give them a chance PP was only finalised the other week" but time is of the essence with projects of this magnitude. You simply haven't got weeks to dilly dally about. Time is money. Gillette and Hicks were happy to come out this weeks and announce how happy they were to see that work can start blah blah... . This means they now have only a week or two to actually get some major work started. After this period is up IMO they'll be shown up yet again as the bullshitters they are.

The council should force their hand. They've told us 60M was borrowed to start the project. They now have full PP (waiting to be signed) so why is fuck all happening? I still cling to the notion that these cunts can't, and never will be able to, raise the cash for the stadium and will eventually have to sell. I believe LCC could be putting a lot more pressure on them than they are at present. This process is grinding slowly but I believe it is also grinding small. I now believe that DIC's tactic is to sit by and "starve" this pair of twats out. All that is required from us is a little patience.
Very interesting post, and you can definitely count me in as someone who "jumped the gun" and got excited about the news,I'm unsure why the would make a massive deal out of it unless it was to fool the Council somehow.I feel like an idiot for believing these clowns would start to fulfill one of the promises they made us!
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Old 28-06-08, 01:56 PM   #45
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That all makes sense to me now. I think myself, and a few others, have jumped the gun regarding recent happenings at the park. Sure, there's a massive lay by for coaches being layed on Priory Road and some pavement renewal giong on on Anfield Road aswell as the ongoing regeneration of the Walton side of the park.

However, apart from a Laing O'Rourke container, there is absolutely no work going on inside the projected site area. Now some may say "Give them a chance PP was only finalised the other week" but time is of the essence with projects of this magnitude. You simply haven't got weeks to dilly dally about. Time is money. Gillette and Hicks were happy to come out this weeks and announce how happy they were to see that work can start blah blah... . This means they now have only a week or two to actually get some major work started. After this period is up IMO they'll be shown up yet again as the bullshitters they are.

The council should force their hand. They've told us 60M was borrowed to start the project. They now have full PP (waiting to be signed) so why is fuck all happening? I still cling to the notion that these cunts can't, and never will be able to, raise the cash for the stadium and will eventually have to sell. I believe LCC could be putting a lot more pressure on them than they are at present. This process is grinding slowly but I believe it is also grinding small. I now believe that DIC's tactic is to sit by and "starve" this pair of twats out. All that is required from us is a little patience.
That makes a lot of sense.
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Old 28-06-08, 06:40 PM   #46
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FFS will you people just let it go with DIC. We are stuck with the Yanks.

Every single fact is stretched well beyond breaking point just to allow you to delude yourselves.

GIVE IT UP!
I've been thinking along the same lines for quite some time. People seem to want to delude themselves, it's strange.
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Old 10-07-08, 08:53 PM   #47
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Any updates on this so far? I'm hoping something would of happened by now..!
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Any updates on this so far? I'm hoping something would of happened by now..!
Quite abit mate. Tearing Arkles Lane to bits puttin a new sewer into the park. Compound under constuction at Annie Rd end. Quite imressive to see.
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Quite abit mate. Tearing Arkles Lane to bits puttin a new sewer into the park. Compound under constuction at Annie Rd end. Quite imressive to see.
Nice one, I had a feeling you would be the one to know! Good to know something is happening , suppose we will have to wait until September for the big work to start, but before that they will need to get financing in place!
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Nice one, I had a feeling you would be the one to know! Good to know something is happening , suppose we will have to wait until September for the big work to start, but before that they will need to get financing in place!
I was up there the other day and, as I said, it's moving on now. I had my doubts but when you consider the cost of what's happening with the new sewer etc it's difficult to NOT see the stadium getting built now. This "enabling" work is costing millions. Whether it gets built by H&G remains to be seen. I'd post some pics but I'm a PC retard. Is it difficult ?
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I was up there the other day and, as I said, it's moving on now. I had my doubts but when you consider the cost of what's happening with the new sewer etc it's difficult to NOT see the stadium getting built now. This "enabling" work is costing millions. Whether it gets built by H&G remains to be seen. I'd post some pics but I'm a PC retard. Is it difficult ?
I'd be interested in seeing pictures, you can see the picture attachment tool in the reply box , its the paper clip icon, once the pictures are on your PC its just a case of uploading them from there.
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I'd be interested in seeing pictures, you can see the picture attachment tool in the reply box , its the paper clip icon, once the pictures are on your PC its just a case of uploading them from there.

Shit at this!!
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I'd be interested in seeing pictures, you can see the picture attachment tool in the reply box , its the paper clip icon, once the pictures are on your PC its just a case of uploading them from there.

Can't get the hang of this!
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Shit at this!!
Thanks for that, as I say its good to hear and now see some movement! I hope the club put a webcam up so us OOTs can see it being built, I believe Arsenal did something similar with their stadium.

I see your pictures perfectly, unless you are editing your post before I get to see them.
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Does anybody make this walk every other Saturday? I don't think it'll look like this for much longer.
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How d'you put big pics on?
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How d'you put big pics on?
If you click the picture it expands to a decent size
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If you click the picture it expands to a decent size
No but some posters pics are big without having to click on them.
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How d'you put big pics on?
When you click on the photos in your posts they open in a new windowand are bigger. Thx for posting them.
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No but some posters pics are big without having to click on them.
You have to host them on a site, such as photobucket
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Some more photos for those who are interested:
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So, they think it will be ready in three years.

Ambitious that.
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So, they think it will be ready in three years.

Ambitious that.
Laing O'Rourke said today that 3 brickies and a Polish labourer will be starting on the stadium on Monday.
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If everything goes to plan I can't see why it won't be built in three years time,the construction of the Emirates started in 2004 and it was completed in 2006.
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If everything goes to plan I can't see why it won't be built in three years time,the construction of the Emirates started in 2004 and it was completed in 2006.
If you look at the Emirates website the groundwork took a while but once that was done the actual stadium was built in about a year. It flew up.
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Laing O'Rourke said today that 3 brickies and a Polish labourer will be starting on the stadium on Monday.
Wow, didn't think it would be moving so fast.
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If you look at the Emirates website the groundwork took a while but once that was done the actual stadium was built in about a year. It flew up.
The ground works will appear to take the longest as it all happens on site. Meanwhile they'll be making big sections of stand somewhere else that will arrive and be put together like duplo and appear to be flying up.

3 years is plenty to build the stadium providing there is the $$$$ and the aussie dope smoker from wembley isn't on site. That was some carry on there.
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Agree with this, great job.
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If everything goes to plan I can't see why it won't be built in three years time,the construction of the Emirates started in 2004 and it was completed in 2006.
With all the uncertainty and turmoil surrounding the club off the pitch I can't see any evidence whatsoever to suggest everything will be as efficient and smooth as we would like regarding the stadium.

I give it four years minimum before we leave Anfield.
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With all the uncertainty and turmoil surrounding the club off the pitch I can't see any evidence whatsoever to suggest everything will be as efficient and smooth as we would like regarding the stadium.

I give it four years minimum before we leave Anfield.
The only problem I can see (and its a big one!) is if Gillett and Hicks can't get the money for the stadium to be built.After that it is down to Laing O’Rourke to stick to deadlines etc.
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The only problem I can see (and its a big one!) is if Gillett and Hicks can't get the money for the stadium to be built.After that it is down to Laing O’Rourke to stick to deadlines etc.
Mate, if that happens then they're royally fucked. The stadium is central to their plans.
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Mate, if that happens then they're royally fucked. The stadium is central to their plans.
Yeah, if that goes wrong I can see us being re sold pretty quickly , I do hope they get the money for the stadium as I think its a fantastic design, its one of the few things they have got right. (In my opinion of course, I know a few people don't like the design..)
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Nice design but i preferred the fully loaded, not the stripped down version

Yanks wooed us with a VW Golf GTI.....but will deliver a Golf 1.3L.
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The newer version they showed - Is that the design it would be at 60,000 or the design ultimately if it is 73,000?
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Yanks wooed us with a VW Golf GTI.....but will deliver a Golf 1.3L.
We're gettin' a fuckin' Polo mate!!
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If they want to make money for the next 10/20 yrs we`re getting a Porsche mate.
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I thought I would do a time line of the new stadium , from the very first leaked images. I will post the rest in a new post.
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I remember when those pics were first leaked, it spread a ridiculous email chain in motion as no one wanted to post the pics in a thread and get someone in trouble . Those were the days, so much enthusiasm about the future, as for now.........
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