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spud_gun
26-01-07, 08:40 AM
It has been reported by The Arizona Republic that according to Randy Lang, a Glendale attorney, former WBO heavyweight champion Tommy Morrison, now 38-years old, has tested negative for HIV and the results of the test have been submitted to an expert appointed by the Arizona State Boxing Commission. Commission member John Montano witnessed the test and is waiting on a report from the expert.

Lang had hoped to have Morrison fight this Friday night in a four-round bout, but has stated that Morrison injured his hand sparring last Saturday and will need to have a x-ray. They will continue to pursue the license in the hopes that Morrison will fight in February, barring serious injury to the hand. Montano has also stipulated that due to his age, he will also need to see Morrison spar before any sort of consideration can be made for a license.

Morrison has not fought in ten years after testing positive for HIV, which he is now claiming was a false-positive. :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw:

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 10:37 AM
Yeah I read about that. Crazy situation.

Tommy has bulked up a lot in the last two years, but there are a lot of unanswered questions for me with regards his testing.


If the guy was "false" tested, then he had his career and livelyhood taken away from him, and it could make for an interesting test case in some court.

But if his original testings were accurate, it could be a case of medical records getting "smudged" to get a fighter back.

andyinswinton
26-01-07, 02:03 PM
I still wouldn't want to fight him though.

spud_gun
26-01-07, 02:37 PM
I still wouldn't want to fight him though.

cause he'd kick your ass?

andyinswinton
26-01-07, 04:05 PM
Yep. :handshake:

I find the whole thing really bizarre.

Its good news if the guy is negative but I would have thought he would have had numerous tests over the past 10 years which would have all come back with possitive results.

To get tested once confirming you are possitive and then not get a second opinion is madness. He must have had more than one test.

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 06:20 PM
Yep. :handshake:

I find the whole thing really bizarre.

Its good news if the guy is negative but I would have thought he would have had numerous tests over the past 10 years which would have all come back with possitive results.

To get tested once confirming you are possitive and then not get a second opinion is madness. He must have had more than one test.



You would have thought that he would have gone through a battery of tests and second opinions. Either way something stinks about this attempt at a comeback.

kopdan
26-01-07, 07:21 PM
so he has aids or what

Sad story mind if he has been a victim of a huge mistake

Red_Al_77
26-01-07, 07:33 PM
You aren't going to catch Aids from boxng him anyway. Ludicrous.

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 07:34 PM
Tommy in 2006
http://www.metinbereketli.com/pages/Metin_TommyMorrison.JPG

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 07:38 PM
You aren't going to catch Aids from boxng him anyway. Ludicrous.



True, but what is a problem is the fact the guy gets diagnosed as being HIV positive on more than one occasion, which effectively ends his career in the ring, and has tested as HIV negative four times since December 2006.

Red_Al_77
26-01-07, 07:40 PM
Maybe it's a miracle.




Then again maybe not.

kopdan
26-01-07, 07:43 PM
its a better story than Rocky 6 anyway

Red Chilli
26-01-07, 07:47 PM
so he has aids or what

No he apparently HAD HIV.

It wouldn't be the first case of the virus clearing. It's possible his immune system managed to fight the virus.

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 07:49 PM
No he apparently HAD HIV.

It wouldn't be the first case of the virus clearingIt's possible his immune system managed to fight the virus.



Really? I did not know that. Maybe there is some substance to it then.

kopdan
26-01-07, 07:49 PM
yes sorry HIV

always get those two bad boys mixed up.

Red Chilli
26-01-07, 07:57 PM
Really? I did not know that. Maybe there is some substance to it then.

Has happened with babies I believe ;)

IrishPaul
27-01-07, 06:18 AM
Has happened with babies I believe ;)


Didn't Holly Johnson (Frankie Goes to Hollywood) go through something similar? I'm fairly sure I'd heard that he had some sort of amazing recovery after being very close to death from a HIV related illness.

Red_Polo
27-01-07, 06:30 AM
Apparently it is not uncommon for people's HIV levels to become undetectable for a period of time, so giving a negative result. However it usually re-emerges. 'Miracle' cases where the HIV vanishes altogether are out there though.

andyinswinton
27-01-07, 07:23 PM
Isn't this what happened to Magic Johnson?

SouthAfricaRed
04-02-07, 01:48 AM
Has happened with babies I believe ;)


Babies sometimes test Positive because they have anti-bodies from their Mom (HIV +) in their Blood. They dont have the virus though.

The tests 10 years ago were not as accurate as they are today. There were some false positive tests. One would have thought that he would have had the more accurate confirmation tests, to detect the actual Virus, not just the anti-bodies, back then. :confused:

As far as an HIV + fighter being allowed to fight. You just cant allow it in any contact sport. It is possible to contract the Virus from being in contact with freshly spilled blood.

SouthAfricaRed
04-02-07, 01:53 AM
Apparently it is not uncommon for people's HIV levels to become undetectable for a period of time, so giving a negative result. However it usually re-emerges. 'Miracle' cases where the HIV vanishes altogether are out there though.

The Anti-Retroviral Drugs cause this. It fights off the Virus so well that you cant detect the actual virus in the Blood. Also a lot less likely to transfer it in these patients.

However if you stop your ARV's the virus will be detected again soon enough and also the virus will most likely be immune against the previously used drugs.

There is not one case where a person actually being proven as having the virus (Western Clad Test) has been cured of it.

The cases that have been claimed have all been proven to be either false positive tests or Babies from HIV + moms, where the Anti-Body test is positive but not the test for the actual virus