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Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 10:33 AM
Some might remember me going on about Andy here and on KT. Well he has continued his run in the paid ranks with a sixth round stoppage win in Vegas last night.


He is a great kid, who was a pleasure to be around when he boxed in Limerick. He has that something special about him, and will be heading for bigger things. A future undisputed middleweight/super middleweight champion of the world.

Howard_lfc
26-01-07, 12:30 PM
Some might remember me going on about Andy here and on KT. Well he has continued his run in the paid ranks with a sixth round stoppage win in Vegas last night.


He is a great kid, who was a pleasure to be around when he boxed in Limerick. He has that something special about him, and will be heading for bigger things. A future undisputed middleweight/super middleweight champion of the world.

Have you got money on him Jaco?

Shaggy
26-01-07, 12:56 PM
Some might remember me going on about Andy here and on KT. Well he has continued his run in the paid ranks with a sixth round stoppage win in Vegas last night.


He is a great kid, who was a pleasure to be around when he boxed in Limerick. He has that something special about him, and will be heading for bigger things. A future undisputed middleweight/super middleweight champion of the world.

Blimey, that's some prediction. I'll keep my eye out for him. :handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 01:08 PM
Blimey, that's some prediction. I'll keep my eye out for him. :handshake:


Been saying that about him since I met him. A real nice guy away from the ring but all business with a killer instinct in it. I used to spar with him when he was coming through the ranks, and he was quite tall for his age and was strong enough to go in with a heavyweight.

As a kid he was doing things in the ring that some of the pros that I had sparred with could not do.

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 01:09 PM
Have you got money on him Jaco?


Yep, from when he was an amatuer at the club. :handshake: My bet was that he would hold a World title by the end of 2008.

joyno
26-01-07, 08:30 PM
Some might remember me going on about Andy here and on KT. Well he has continued his run in the paid ranks with a sixth round stoppage win in Vegas last night.


He is a great kid, who was a pleasure to be around when he boxed in Limerick. He has that something special about him, and will be heading for bigger things. A future undisputed middleweight/super middleweight champion of the world. where can i get some info on jaco im intrigued.:handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 08:33 PM
where can i get some info on jaco im intrigued.:handshake:


On Andy?


http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=344849



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Lee_(boxer)




Really nice lad, was living out by the village of Castleconnell. He oozes ability and class. He is a tall middleweight and will fill out as he gets older and move up a division or two. He has a sweet jab, and great skills. He also has very good punching power and is durable. One of those fighters who can fight tactically or get into the trenches, depending on what is needed.

joyno
26-01-07, 09:10 PM
On Andy?


http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=344849



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Lee_(boxer)




Really nice lad, was living out by the village of Castleconnell. He oozes ability and class. He is a tall middleweight and will fill out as he gets older and move up a division or two. He has a sweet jab, and great skills. He also has very good punching power and is durable. One of those fighters who can fight tactically or get into the trenches, depending on what is needed. thanks mate i forgot the him! in the sentence :handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 09:14 PM
thanks mate i forgot the him! in the sentence :handshake:



He will be a big name in the ring someday, for all the right reasons. His attitude to life and to boxing is a throwback to a different era.

joyno
26-01-07, 09:17 PM
thanks mate i forgot the him! in the sentence :handshake: if you could compare his style to anyone mate who would it be, i know that sounds like a smash hits question mate but thats the way i get an idea of the fighter, a tall middleweight always attracts my attention me being a great monzon fan (a comparison to him i wish!)

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 09:22 PM
if you could compare his style to anyone mate who would it be, i know that sounds like a smash hits question mate but thats the way i get an idea of the fighter, a tall middleweight always attracts my attention me being a great monzon fan (a comparison to him i wish!)



You know what? I have been asked that question many times before over the last six years about this kid, and I have always said that he is not the new anybody, he boxes like Andy Lee.


However since he has come under the wing of Emmanual Steward, there are shades of certain fighters starting to show in his arsenal. I see a bit of Thomas Hearns in him at times, especially in the jab.


Monzon is one of my favourites too, I thought he was an awesome fighter, although my fave had to be Hagler.

joyno
26-01-07, 09:31 PM
He will be a big name in the ring someday, for all the right reasons. His attitude to life and to boxing is a throwback to a different era.has Emanuel Steward trained the lad from an early stage if so he must have something special, i hate not spotting these young prospects must try and find time to read the small columns in the boxing magazines (i blame marriage and kids) i followed Tyson from his defeat against Tyrell biggs, i bet you haven't heard that before.:handshake:

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 09:34 PM
has Emanuel Steward trained the lad from an early stage if so he must have something special, i hate not spotting these young prospects must try and find time to read the small columns in the boxing magazines (i blame marriage and kids) i followed Tyson from his defeat against Tyrell biggs, i bet you haven't heard that before.:handshake:



No, Steward has only been training him for a few years now as he was an amatuer before that. He used to box out of the club that I used to box out of and later coach in. That's why I pay such attention to what the lad is doing. But his ability is staggering. Steward spotted him after he had given one of Steward's boys a hell of a beating.

joyno
26-01-07, 09:44 PM
No, Steward has only been training him for a few years now as he was an amatuer before that. He used to box out of the club that I used to box out of and later coach in. That's why I pay such attention to what the lad is doing. But his ability is staggering. Steward spotted him after he had given one of Steward's boys a hell of a beating.
is he fighting out of the states now or is he still home based and does he come from a boxing back ground , sorry for turning this into a questionnaire i will stop now just intrigued and trying to build up a profile so i can show off to my mates when he wins the title, i don't bet on sport so its glory hunting only.:)

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 09:50 PM
is he fighting out of the states now or is he still home based and does it come from a boxing back ground mate, sorry for turning this into a questionnaire i will stop now just intrigued and trying to build up a profile so i can show off to my mates when he wins the title, i don't bet on sport so its glory hunting only.:)



He is fighting out of the Kronk gym since he got taken under Steward's wing. He is sparring with big names and other up and coming fighters. He was Wladimir Klitchko's main sparring partner for the fight against Chris Byrd.

His family has a few boxers in it. His three brothers boxed. Two represented England and two (including Andy) represented Ireland. He was born in England and his family moved to Limerick in Ireland.


Plus I got my face on Eurosport at his second professional fight, which was held in Germany last year. He has had seven fights now, winning all of them.


I would yap about the kid all day, I have seen other fighters, who turned pro and became big names within boxing circles, but I have not had the pleasure and privilage, before Andy, to have a kid walk into the club and have such amazing natural ability.

joyno
26-01-07, 10:02 PM
He is fighting out of the Kronk gym since he got taken under Steward's wing. He is sparring with big names and other up and coming fighters. He was Wladimir Klitchko's main sparring partner for the fight against Chris Byrd.

His family has a few boxers in it. His three brothers boxed. Two represented England and two (including Andy) represented Ireland. He was born in England and his family moved to Limerick in Ireland.


Plus I got my face on Eurosport at his second professional fight, which was held in Germany last year. He has had seven fights now, winning all of them. Top man thanks for that i will stop waiting for Carl froch to turn into don curry and concentrate on somebody that actually as potential hopefully. i envy your involvement in this noble art mate i threw mine away years a go too many other things to do more important like wine women and song and all I'm left with now is a woman that cant sing and under arm boobs from too much wine, ah never mind.

Jaco_Pastorious
26-01-07, 10:12 PM
Top man thanks for that i will stop waiting for Carl froch to turn into don curry and concentrate on somebody that actually as potential hopefully. i envy your involvement in this noble art mate i threw mine away years a go too many other things to do more important like wine women and song and all I'm left with now is a woman that cant sing and under arm boobs from too much wine, ah never mind.



I love the game. Not as involved as I used to be, but am seriously considering getting back in it again. I have some circles that I travel in, that keeps me in touch with what is happening at grass roots level and some decent contacts in the Pro game as well.

I have a very romantic view of the game, and am quite old school in my values of it, despite not being old enough to have been around for the "old school" era.

Certain fighters carry themselves in a manner that I admire so much. They can be so humble and gracious, yet carry an aura of an inner strength and immeasurable resolve. For me, it is one of the most brutal and yet, most noble of sports, and can every now and then, create a god to stand amongst men.

joyno
26-01-07, 10:51 PM
I love the game. Not as involved as I used to be, but am seriously considering getting back in it again. I have some circles that I travel in, that keeps me in touch with what is happening at grass roots level and some decent contacts in the Pro game as well.

I have a very romantic view of the game, and am quite old school in my values of it, despite not being old enough to have been around for the "old school" era.

Certain fighters carry themselves in a manner that I admire so much. They can be so humble and gracious, yet carry an aura of an inner strength and immeasurable resolve. For me, it is one of the most brutal and yet, most noble of sports, and can every now and then, create a god to stand amongst men.without trying to sound patronising mate, you should maybe consider writing about the sport not for publication but for others to read, i always spout off to mates about how the sport should be judged as an art form not because of wins and losses but how those imposter's are dealt with by some guy who usually came from nothing who! (and lets forget the trainers and entourage) is alone in that ring and every action he takes will be his and he will be judged on the outcome of those actions no trainers no cut men and no managers get the blame the baying public blame the fighter and when its your only escape route off the estate your peers idle criticism can be devastating, pure theater, when i was a kid my trainer who was a pug faced labourer in real life use to say to me"bravery and fear are exactly the same thing the only difference is bravery eliminates doubt and as no time for it and fear creates doubt and questions your every move and action" he said the latter created the better fighter, and he dug holes for a living good holes mind,class act.