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hoeyd2
11-08-06, 11:46 AM
Posted once or twice on the subject over on KT and there were a few NFL fans over there too.

So have any of you good people made the jump?

Well, the off-season has settled. Injured players are recovering and the pre-season games are underway.

Most of the very best teams didn't do much in free-agency (Colts, Steelers, Patriots) and the upcoming season is looking very intriguing. Anyway, free-agency is over-hyped. The best teams are about depth and can build from within.

Any opinions on who is going to be playing in Super Bowl 41?

My biased 2c... Patriots v Giants. And another Manning to fall before Bill Belichick.

I gotta say, Arizona are building well, and while I don't think their o-line gives them enough to be playoff contenders this year, if they keep developing, they'll be strong next year.

O-line problems will, I think, limit Dallas this year as well.

Anyway, anybody else even interested in the coming season?

saveferris
11-08-06, 12:42 PM
I do have an interest but not to a massive extent. I did go to the NFL superbash at Shepherds Bush earlier this year which features the New Orleans Saintsations!!

I tenuously follow the Chicago Bears...I know we had a solid defence last year!!!

Neil Young
11-08-06, 12:56 PM
Hello hoey.

You damned neocon. :)

:handshake:

Redbug1
11-08-06, 01:05 PM
Cant say Im a massive fan but when I've been to the states I sorta got behind the Bengals. I was in Florida and watched monday night football in a bar somewhere - twas the time of Marino - that era - and I just thought Id go for Cinnicinatti as everyone was so pro-Miami. And it sorta stuck - i keep my eye out for their results. My college team were always Auburn as I spent a bit of time in Alabama one year.

MrMichael
11-08-06, 01:05 PM
When I was younger I used to pay quite a lot of attention to the NFL, sort of lost touch the last few years..... though i think that might have also been a reaction to the inability I discovered I had to actually stay awake all the way through the superbowl broadcast. Reckon I've sarted to watch it atlast 10 times, I even got into the last quarter twice.... ;)


I'm gonna move this to the "general sports" forum btw dude

red_in_oz
11-08-06, 02:21 PM
Always loved the Raiders - ever since Marcus Allen's 74 yard run in Super Bowl XVIII. And because of Marcus, I've always follwed his alma mater: USC.

Hopefully Art Shell can pick the Raiders up again and Pete Carroll can reload after losing Leinert, Bush & White.

Don't follow the NFL as in depth as I used to, but because of the time difference with Oz, I can track the games every Monday morning from work.

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 02:22 PM
When I was younger I used to pay quite a lot of attention to the NFL, sort of lost touch the last few years..... though i think that might have also been a reaction to the inability I discovered I had to actually stay awake all the way through the superbowl broadcast. Reckon I've sarted to watch it atlast 10 times, I even got into the last quarter twice.... ;)


I'm gonna move this to the "general sports" forum btw dude

Yeah, good move, I realised I had posted it in the wrong forum.

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 02:23 PM
Always loved the Raiders - ever since Marcus Allen's 74 yard run in Super Bowl XVIII. And because of Marcus, I've always follwed his alma mater: USC.

Hopefully Art Shell can pick the Raiders up again and Pete Carroll can reload after losing Leinert, Bush & White.

Don't follow the NFL as in depth as I used to, but because of the time difference with Oz, I can track the games every Monday morning from work.

Art Shell's a good coach, but I don't see any team with Aaron Brooks under centre doing well.

Too many egos there.

Salary cap football requires gelling units.

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 02:26 PM
Hello hoey.

You damned neocon. :)

:handshake:

Hey commie pinko :haha: :handshake:

We meet again my old adversary.

So are you primarily here or on KT? Just want to know where to look for threads that will bait me in to replies. :)

Good to see you here.

red_in_oz
11-08-06, 02:33 PM
Art Shell's a good coach, but I don't see any team with Aaron Brooks under centre doing well.

Too many egos there.

Salary cap football requires gelling units.

Yeah, I'm not too pleased with them signing Brooks either. Never set the world alight consistently at the Saints.

The Raiders never seem to want to rebuild to give them long term years of success. It always seems to be "reload" and take their best shot every year.

Gruden was starting to get there and then they let him go!

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 02:44 PM
Yeah, I'm not too pleased with them signing Brooks either. Never set the world alight consistently at the Saints.

The Raiders never seem to want to rebuild to give them long term years of success. It always seems to be "reload" and take their best shot every year.

Gruden was starting to get there and then they let him go!

Yeah, that was a bad move.

There are 2 ways of looking at the salary cap NFL. 1 says that each year you spend as much as possible on "names in lights" and try to explode for a season winning the lot. That's the approach you speak of above, and it worked for Tampa Bay. But generally those teams only ever get near a conference championship once in a blue moon only to folow it with a number of losing seasons. The other approach is to build for the long term. Add 2 players to your roster with $3.5m cap hits rather than one $7m player. Have strong back-ups and build players within a system. It amazes me how many teams are still trying the first approach when the second has delivered so much for teams like the Patriots, Steelers and up till last year, the Eagles.

I gotta say though, I think the Raiders got one of the very best players in the draft this year in Michael Huff. He's going to have an outstanding career.

Neil Young
11-08-06, 02:47 PM
Hey commie pinko :haha: :handshake:

We meet again my old adversary.

So are you primarily here or on KT? Just want to know where to look for threads that will bait me in to replies. :)

Good to see you here.

Here and there, here and there.

I used to watch the NFL live on Sky but after a while I no longer really cared who won or what happened.

I used to follow AFC teams because they hardly ever won the All-American Championship (or "Superbowl"). Then someone did a few times (wasn't it the Pats?) and I realized my primary interest had gone.

Used to like the Raiders. Quite like the Steelers - they remind me of LFC somehow.

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 03:35 PM
The Broncos first turned over the NFC hold on the Superbowl. They won it twice in 98 and 99. Then the Pats won it 3 out of 4 years from 2001 to 2004.

Now it could be argued that the top 5 teams in the league are all in the AFC (Colts, Steelers, Patriots, Benaglsa and Broncos).

If it's just underdogs you're looking for, come back and root for the NFC teams.

Neil Young
11-08-06, 04:04 PM
Nah. NFC stands for NeoFuckingCon.

:D

Neil Young
11-08-06, 04:05 PM
Anyway, as I said, I'm bored by it these days. It was just a fad for me I'm afraid.

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 04:16 PM
Neil I take it as a compliment that you count me among the "neocons" :D

Neil Young
11-08-06, 04:18 PM
Really? It takes all sorts I suppose.

:)

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 04:29 PM
I just wrote out 5 different replies to that and none of them were funny.

Written humour is not among my strengths.

Bugger it.

Neil Young
11-08-06, 04:59 PM
Oh, I don't know. The one you eventually posted made me laugh. At you, of course.

:)

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 05:09 PM
Of course

Neil Young
11-08-06, 05:14 PM
Sorry. My previous reply was charmless. I did actually laugh out loud though.

hoeyd2
11-08-06, 05:22 PM
No, no, I found it quite amusing.

Don't worry, I'm well able to detect the intent of a post (well, one written in normal english), even, would you believe it, if there's no smilies.

red_in_oz
13-08-06, 07:39 AM
I gotta say though, I think the Raiders got one of the very best players in the draft this year in Michael Huff. He's going to have an outstanding career.

I saw him a few times for Texas last season and he was impressive. I hope to see Vince Young succeed in the NFL too. Outstanding natural athlete.

enema of the state
14-08-06, 10:34 AM
hi - yeah me too hoey - we did exchange the odd view on KT

redskins are my team since the strike season

i like the steelers too since i spent time at pit uni in 1993 but thought seattle were ROBBED in the SB last year

hoeyd2
14-08-06, 03:33 PM
Ah, I'm trying to remember who the Skins fans on KT were.

Is Redscouser a Skins or Cowboys fan?

Mucky?

I like the Steelers too. I like their philosophy and they've got some likeable players.

enema of the state
14-08-06, 09:47 PM
Ah, I'm trying to remember who the Skins fans on KT were.

Is Redscouser a Skins or Cowboys fan?

Mucky?

I like the Steelers too. I like their philosophy and they've got some likeable players.

i iant reds - hes on here too

not mucky either

hoeyd2
15-08-06, 12:28 PM
Desertscouser?

Or is he on here as himself too?

spud_gun
15-08-06, 04:32 PM
Philly Eagles for me.

hoeyd2
15-08-06, 04:37 PM
Good, well-coached side.

If Reggie Brown steps up, and Brian Westbrook can play for a season, Philly could be strong.

Laz
15-08-06, 06:15 PM
The only American Football 'match' I watched in full was Lingerie Bowl III.

I see the merits of the game. I'm hoping for rain (and mud) this year.

spud_gun
15-08-06, 06:49 PM
Good, well-coached side.

If Reggie Brown steps up, and Brian Westbrook can play for a season, Philly could be strong.


Big Big questions marks over the entire WR corps.

Now that the Owens sideshow has left town i'm hoping Reid can concentrate the minds of the players

I really, really hope that Ownes / Dallas implode this season. The man is an arse

hoeyd2
15-08-06, 07:34 PM
Yeah, he is a giant tool.

Everybody expects them to get a great season out of Owens, but I think it'll all go belly up by mid season. He's trashed every QB he's ever played with, and that Dallas offensive line is weak enough to give Bledsoe some serious time on his ass. Which, of course, means fewer passes out wide. Terrell will get annoyed quickly I reckon.

In regards to Philly, don't forget that McNabb and Reid brought the Eagles to all those NFC Championship games before Owens came along. They've got a strong core.

The Eagle's playoff chances come down to the health of 2 running backs. Westbrook and Clinton Portis. If Portis doesn't recover in time, the Redskins' whole season changes. Have a feeling the Giants could be Superbowl-bound this year, so in my book Washington, Philadelphia and Dallas are battling it out for a wildcard berth.

Obviously Philly need Westbrook healthy to establish any sort of running game. In fact I'd say the recievers will be fine, it's the health of their running game that will be key.

Anyway, I'm talking crap now. It's been a long day in work and I need to go home.

enema of the state
15-08-06, 08:14 PM
Yeah, he is a giant tool.

Everybody expects them to get a great season out of Owens, but I think it'll all go belly up by mid season. He's trashed every QB he's ever played with, and that Dallas offensive line is weak enough to give Bledsoe some serious time on his ass. Which, of course, means fewer passes out wide. Terrell will get annoyed quickly I reckon.

In regards to Philly, don't forget that McNabb and Reid brought the Eagles to all those NFC Championship games before Owens came along. They've got a strong core.

The Eagle's playoff chances come down to the health of 2 running backs. Westbrook and Clinton Portis. If Portis doesn't recover in time, the Redskins' whole season changes. Have a feeling the Giants could be Superbowl-bound this year, so in my book Washington, Philadelphia and Dallas are battling it out for a wildcard berth.

Obviously Philly need Westbrook healthy to establish any sort of running game. In fact I'd say the recievers will be fine, it's the health of their running game that will be key.

Anyway, I'm talking crap now. It's been a long day in work and I need to go home.

agree on owens - total tool - was in philly the day he was cut and you could get his nfl jersey for $10! i have a big question mark over the whole philly squad as regards being chokers but i think its them and the skins fighting for the division.

i think seattle will be strong once again as will denver

and i'm not effin' desrtscouser!

hoeyd2
15-08-06, 08:59 PM
Yeah, Denver could be very strong. Javon Walker was a good signing.

And Mike Shananhan could get 1000 rushing yds out of the guy who paints the endzone if he wanted to.

Ok so if you're a skins fan and you're not mucky or redscouser, I'm running short on ideas!

Dhav
16-08-06, 12:06 AM
I used to follow NHL closely a few years ago, particularly the Buffalo Sabres the year they got to the Stanley Cup Final (1999?) due to a friend supporting them. Shame the way they lost it.

Havent really watched ice hockey since the 2002 winter Olympics unfortunately

Mumsafan
16-08-06, 10:42 AM
agree on owens - total tool - was in philly the day he was cut and you could get his nfl jersey for $10! i have a big question mark over the whole philly squad as regards being chokers but i think its them and the skins fighting for the division.

i think seattle will be strong once again as will denver

and i'm not effin' desrtscouser!

DS is here as himself

hoeyd2
22-08-06, 04:54 PM
For anyone who's interested... Sky Sports have announced details of their first few weeks on NFL coverage.

ferg
22-08-06, 05:04 PM
it's so good to see Carlton Palmer doing so well in the NFL with Cincinnati.

hoeyd2
22-08-06, 05:06 PM
Yeah, his gangly arms have really helped him with the transition.

ferg
22-08-06, 05:15 PM
for real though if all the young ones at the bengals stop getting arrested and palmer is fit for the season they could be a force to be reckoned with.

hoeyd2
22-08-06, 05:17 PM
Yeah, it seems like a prequiste to playing for Cinci is doing time.

ferg
22-08-06, 05:22 PM
What's the difference between the Bengals and a dollar bill?

You can still get four quarters out of a dollar.

hoeyd2
22-08-06, 05:25 PM
Nice.

ferg
22-08-06, 05:27 PM
Q. What do you call 47 people sitting around a TV watching the NFL playoffs?

A. The Cincinnati Bengals

hoeyd2
22-08-06, 05:31 PM
That's actually quite good that.

If a little unoriginal.

6/10

ferg
22-08-06, 05:33 PM
CINCINNATI, OH - Cincinnati Bengals football practice was delayed on Monday for nearly two hours. One of the players, while on his way to the locker room happened to look down and notice a suspicious looking, unknown white powdery substance on the practice field. The head coach immediatly suspended practice while the FBI was called to investigate. After a complete analysis, the FBI determined that the white substance unknown to players was... the goal line! Practice resumed when FBI special agents determined that the team would not be likely to encounter the substance again.

hoeyd2
22-08-06, 05:36 PM
That's like some joke my Dad would tell me.

Mattshark
22-08-06, 07:04 PM
Is no one else a Colts fan?

hoeyd2
22-08-06, 09:22 PM
That's like liking the Yankees.

Mattshark
23-08-06, 05:38 PM
That's like liking the Yankees.
It isn't, not even slightly, Likeing the Pats is like, likeing the Yankee scum.

enema of the state
23-08-06, 10:44 PM
the yankees are the mancs of baseball

Mattshark
23-08-06, 11:16 PM
the yankees are the mancs of baseball

:handshake:

I hate the Yankees!

hoeyd2
24-08-06, 09:20 AM
Don't agree. The Pats are just a good, successful organisation that know how to win.

The Colts have that superstar offense, the media desperately want Peyton to win, even though he's just a choker (a talented choker, but a choker all the same).

In fact neither of them are all that much like the Yankees. I just hate the Colts.

enema of the state
24-08-06, 09:59 AM
dallas cowboys of the early 1990s were the closest things to the mancs in the nfl imo

hoeyd2
24-08-06, 10:36 AM
Yeah, buying up everone without the restriction of a salary cap.

Mind, you they were great to watch.

hoeyd2
04-09-06, 04:54 PM
Starts this week.

Damn it, I'm excited.

animal magic
04-09-06, 04:56 PM
Starts this week.

Damn it, I'm excited.


dallas cowboys might win the superbowl this year or the colts

hoeyd2
04-09-06, 05:02 PM
dallas cowboys might win the superbowl this year or the colts

Colts have the same problems as every year (no idea how to win when it's all on the line) plus they lost their top running back (they'll split carries between a back up - Rhodes, and a rookie - Addai, and might get 1100 yards between them, but not enough to have a running game people will fear, like they did with Edge).

animal magic
04-09-06, 05:07 PM
Colts have the same problems as every year (no idea how to win when it's all on the line) plus they lost their top running back (they'll split carries between a back up - Rhodes, and a rookie - Addai, and might get 1100 yards between them, but not enough to have a running game people will fear, like they did with Edge).


so who do reckon has the best chance this year

hoeyd2
04-09-06, 05:15 PM
I'm not sure. Every team has weaknesses.

The Patiots are very strong everywhere except at receiver. The Deion Branch situation could be a big distraction. I still think they'll be one of 2 or three teams in the mix.

If Brian Westbrook stays healthy and can run the ball well, The Eagles could be very strong. Trading for Donte Stallworth was a smart move. He's gonna be a top receiver this year.

The Panthers are strong too.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that things could click for the Giants this year and they could make a run to the big game. They're actually strong at every position except maybe with some questions about the O-line.

The Steelers might be in trouble with their running game (Bettis gone, Parker too small to be a bruiser, and Staley not fit) and Cowher's future could unsettle a lot of people.

And I'm just not convinced Bledsoe has it left to be a Super Bowl QB.

By my biased reckoning, it'll be a Patriots - Giants Super Bowl.

Mattshark
04-09-06, 05:23 PM
It'll be the Colts!!!!!! If nothing else we'll make thye play offs because our divion is so bad it is silly.

hoeyd2
04-09-06, 05:55 PM
Oh they'll make the playoffs alright, and they'll probably tear it up in the regular season, but they'll fall off when it counts. I just don't think Peyton has it in him to go beyond the stats and win a "balls on the line" game like Brady does so often.

CharlieMansonsSquint
04-09-06, 06:16 PM
Why not Manning versus Manning in the superbowl?:haha:

If Carson Palmer's knee comes through the first game unscathed I'll be putting money on the Bengals.

GerrardsSocks17
04-09-06, 08:14 PM
it's so good to see Carlton Palmer doing so well in the NFL with Cincinnati.


FLMAO.

Seattle, Indy, Denver if they can get Bell and Bell going, Miami and Pittsburgh will be in the mix when all's said and done.

GerrardsSocks17
04-09-06, 08:22 PM
I'm not sure. Every team has weaknesses.

The Patiots are very strong everywhere except at receiver. The Deion Branch situation could be a big distraction. I still think they'll be one of 2 or three teams in the mix.

If Brian Westbrook stays healthy and can run the ball well, The Eagles could be very strong. Trading for Donte Stallworth was a smart move. He's gonna be a top receiver this year.

The Panthers are strong too.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that things could click for the Giants this year and they could make a run to the big game. They're actually strong at every position except maybe with some questions about the O-line.

The Steelers might be in trouble with their running game (Bettis gone, Parker too small to be a bruiser, and Staley not fit) and Cowher's future could unsettle a lot of people.

And I'm just not convinced Bledsoe has it left to be a Super Bowl QB.

By my biased reckoning, it'll be a Patriots - Giants Super Bowl.


The Pats have issues at linebacker and still in the secondary. And despite signing Doug Gabriel, Brady, good as he is, needs a receiver he can rely on. Maroney will help spell Dillon and Brady will spread it around to Garrett Mills and David Thomas and Ben Watson especially, but I think there are bigger issues to overcome at linebacker and Rodney Harrison is coming back off the injury at SS.

Brian Westbrook has never stayed healthy and Donte Stallworth struggled to establish himself in New Orleans despite ample opportunities. Reggie Brown will be McNabb's go to guy.

I agree with regards Bledsoe. I think Seattle-Indy.

REDSCOUSER
04-09-06, 08:30 PM
I am a big COWBOYS fans as some of you know from KT but to be honest I think it's gonna be a Patriots x Giants super bowl. So I'm with ya Houy mate.
As much as I hate the Giants I think they have a very solid team all around.
From the AFC the Raiders looked good in pre-season so we shall see.
Dallas will make the play offs but lose in the first divisional round.

REDSCOUSER
04-09-06, 09:38 PM
Lads I have created a league for us just like last season.
League name is Est1892 NFLers. Just type that into leagues and let the fun begin.

http://fantasy.sportsnet.ca/cgi-bin/sportsnet-fbspr06/home.cgi

hoeyd2
05-09-06, 08:51 AM
The Pats have issues at linebacker and still in the secondary. And despite signing Doug Gabriel, Brady, good as he is, needs a receiver he can rely on. Maroney will help spell Dillon and Brady will spread it around to Garrett Mills and David Thomas and Ben Watson especially, but I think there are bigger issues to overcome at linebacker and Rodney Harrison is coming back off the injury at SS.

Brian Westbrook has never stayed healthy and Donte Stallworth struggled to establish himself in New Orleans despite ample opportunities. Reggie Brown will be McNabb's go to guy.

I agree with regards Bledsoe. I think Seattle-Indy.

Oh I know the Pats have plenty of issues, but I'm a blatant Pats homer and have faith that Rodney will hit as hard and fast as ever, Junior Seau will play like he's at least 5 years younger, and Tully Banta Cain will be the new McGinest.

I also really like Ellis Hobbs at corner.

Also, if Chad Jackson can pick up the offense, he could be enormous for the Pats from the off.

But I'm sorry Socks, your Dolphins are not gonna be in the mix. I'm not a fan of that offensive line at all.

In regards to Indy, Peyton will do what he does best, choke when it's all on the line.

hoeyd2
05-09-06, 08:53 AM
I am a big COWBOYS fans as some of you know from KT but to be honest I think it's gonna be a Patriots x Giants super bowl. So I'm with ya Houy mate.
As much as I hate the Giants I think they have a very solid team all around.
From the AFC the Raiders looked good in pre-season so we shall see.
Dallas will make the play offs but lose in the first divisional round.

I reckon I might put some money on a Pats Giants Super Bowl. Could stand to win quite a lot if it comes off.

What's the password for the Prediction league?

REDSCOUSER
05-09-06, 02:28 PM
Oh sorry, the password is liverpool

hoeyd2
05-09-06, 02:35 PM
Sweet, I've registered.

REDSCOUSER
05-09-06, 07:26 PM
Sweet, I've registered.

:handshake: lets see if we can get some more players

mersey86
05-09-06, 07:33 PM
Used to dislike the Redskins when I lived in Liverpool. Now they're my local team so I hope they do well. I've always liked the Broncos.
I'll go for a Patriots v Panthers Super Bowl.

REDSCOUSER
05-09-06, 08:22 PM
First super bowl ever for me was the 1990 one when San Fran spanked the Broncos 55-10. I won 300$/US of bets that day from some Fraternity brothers I lived with when I was studying in Texas. ;)

hoeyd2
08-09-06, 09:20 AM
OUCH!

I know it's only the first game of the season and all, but it seems from the reports that Culpepper looked awful and the Miami Offensive Line were very poor.

Now, having said that, Miami spanked Denver in last year's opener, and Denver went on to have a very strong season. So we'll see how things pan out.

Well, can't wait for sunday to sit down in front of the TV and watch 6 hours of live NFL.

hoeyd2
13-09-06, 10:52 AM
REDSCOUSER et al...

What did you make of opening weekend?

REDSCOUSER
13-09-06, 02:59 PM
As you can probably see from my preddys I got 11 wrong :D
Thought the Steelers had too much for the Dolphins. Culpepper is still rusty but will improve.
Arizona looked impressive, so did the Chargers, but of course with Tomlinson ripping the Raiders with 130 rushing yards.
The PATS dodged with the win but that's them. They grind a win when they have to.
Quite enjoyed the Giants/Colts game. Thought inexperience cost little brother Manning with 3 interceptions while Payton got on with his buisness as usual.
As for my team the Cowboys, well what can I say. Another lead blown, another Bledsoe calamity in the second half which led to another defeat.
I ain't a happy bunny but at least the REDskinned lost at home to the Vikings. ;)

hoeyd2
13-09-06, 03:00 PM
As you can probably see from my preddys I got 11 wrong :D
Thought the Steelers had too much for the Dolphins. Culpepper is still rusty but will improve.
Arizona looked impressive, so did the Chargers, but of course with Tomlinson ripping the Raiders with 130 rushing yards.
The PATS dodged with the win but that's them. They grind a win when they have to.
Quite enjoyed the Giants/Colts game. Thought inexperience cost little brother Manning with 3 interceptions while Payton got on with his buisness as usual.
As for my team the Cowboys, well what can I say. Another lead blown, another Bledsoe calamity in the second half which led to another defeat.
I ain't a happy bunny but at least the REDskinned lost at home to the Vikings. ;)

You reckon Bledsoe will last the season as starting QB?

hoeyd2
13-09-06, 05:10 PM
By the way, I put €20 on a Pats Giants Super Bowl. Returns €1320 if it comes good.

Los Rojos
13-09-06, 10:15 PM
I was a big Denver Broncos fan in the late 80's, early 90's. I lost interest for about 10 years (during which Denver actually won the Superbowl 2 or 3 times).

I started watching a few games last season and may do again this coming season.

hoeyd2
13-09-06, 10:32 PM
Do it! You won't regret it! It's such a great sport. Every sunday from 6pm there's 2 back to back live games on Sky Sports extra.

Mattshark
14-09-06, 01:24 AM
Do it! You won't regret it! It's such a great sport. Every sunday from 6pm there's 2 back to back live games on Sky Sports extra.
Yeah you can watch the colts not bugger it up in the playoffs this year:rock:

hoeyd2
14-09-06, 08:55 AM
Yeah you can watch the colts not bugger it up in the playoffs this year:rock:

They'll always bugger it up.

Manning's never won anything of significance. He doesn't know how.

Los Rojos
14-09-06, 10:22 AM
Do it! You won't regret it! It's such a great sport. Every sunday from 6pm there's 2 back to back live games on Sky Sports extra.

My wife would love that :haha:

I'll try and watch the Denver games I think :handshake:

hoeyd2
14-09-06, 11:30 AM
My wife would love that :haha:

I'll try and watch the Denver games I think :handshake:

Good man! You won't regret it. Denver are in for an interesting year. Very strong side, with a top coach. But they've a question mark over Quarterback, and an exciting young rookie (Jay Cutler) who looks like might just be the real deal at QB for the future.

REDSCOUSER
14-09-06, 05:02 PM
You reckon Bledsoe will last the season as starting QB?

no i think Tony romo will come in for him sometime soon..if Bledsoe continues to struggle i reckon by week 5 or 6 romo will be starting..as long as TUNA doeas not wait too long to do the change..we'll see what they're gonna do against the tough defence of Redskinned sunday night ;)

REDSCOUSER
14-09-06, 05:03 PM
They'll always bugger it up.

Manning's never won anything of significance. He doesn't know how.

The Colts are the Spain of football..always choke in the big occassion :o

fatistuta
14-09-06, 06:41 PM
I've been an NFL fan since I was a nipper when I was given a rather nifty pair of Pittsburgh Steelers jim-jams and they've been my team ever since.

I have followed them since the glory days where Terry Bradshaw ruled the way to four Superbowls in six years, the days of the Steel Curtain where Mean Joe Greene terrified all, where Franco Harris ran through defences like they weren't there and Lynn Swan recieved with the grace of a gazelle.

And also shortly after our glory in Istanbul, the Steelers also won it 5 times.

:rock:

hoeyd2
18-09-06, 09:17 AM
Well, Socks' Dolphins look really good.

Anybody see that fumble by Culpepper at the beginning of the game with no-one near him?

red_in_oz
18-09-06, 01:50 PM
My Raiders were pathetic again!

8 quarters of gridiron and only two field goals to show for it!

:-(

hoeyd2
18-09-06, 02:04 PM
My Raiders were pathetic again!

8 quarters of gridiron and only two field goals to show for it!

:-(

Aaron Brooks last week: more sacks (7) than completions (6)
Aaron Brooks this week: more fumbles (2) than completions (0)

That's some great quarter-backing right there.

Los Rojos
18-09-06, 06:50 PM
Denver win 9-6 against Kansas City.

:)

REDSCOUSER
18-09-06, 08:18 PM
My Cowboys did well to beat redskins 27-10. Jones * Barber look good as rb.
Owens is out for 4 weeks with a broken middle finger, bugger.

hoeyd2
18-09-06, 10:22 PM
Denver win 9-6 against Kansas City.

:)

Don't get too excited... you come to Foxboro next week!!! :rock:

hoeyd2
18-09-06, 10:23 PM
My Cowboys did well to beat redskins 27-10. Jones * Barber look good as rb.
Owens is out for 4 weeks with a broken middle finger, bugger.

That game was a face off between the 2 most immobile QBs in the league.

But still a very good win for you guys.

red_in_oz
19-09-06, 04:48 AM
At home today and just seen Jacksonville beat Pittsburgh 9-0. Very impressive defensive effort by the Jags. And the lowest scoring Monday Night Football game ever!

hoeyd2
19-09-06, 09:47 AM
REDSCOUSER!

I can't believe you didn't enter any picks this week!

I was all ready to come on here and gloat about my 10-6 record!

Now it's null and void.

hoeyd2
19-09-06, 09:49 AM
At home today and just seen Jacksonville beat Pittsburgh 9-0. Very impressive defensive effort by the Jags. And the lowest scoring Monday Night Football game ever!

The Jags are gonna make the playoffs again this year. And they could definitely beat up Indy on the way.

REDSCOUSER
19-09-06, 02:57 PM
REDSCOUSER!

I can't believe you didn't enter any picks this week!

I was all ready to come on here and gloat about my 10-6 record!

Now it's null and void.

i totally forgot, don't remind me :grr:
just giving ya a head start :D

hoeyd2
19-09-06, 03:18 PM
Bring it on!

Mattshark
19-09-06, 04:39 PM
Well wen shocked everyone by battering the texans. No one saw that coming did they.

animal magic
19-09-06, 05:42 PM
Sky & NFL extend deal through to 2011

The National Football League has awarded Sky the UK and Irish rights to the NFL under a new four-year deal, up until the end of the 2010-2011 season. The new arrangement will bring an increase in the number of games shown live in the UK.

From next season onwards, NFL fans in the UK can look forward to:

More than 100 live matches each season; double the current commitment.
Extra live games through the Sky digital interactive service.
All 10 Playoff games in January.
Super Bowl live at the end of each season.
Live and recorded pre-season and NFL Europe League games.

REDSCOUSER
19-09-06, 05:56 PM
Wonder how the ratings are on SKY for them to agree to such a thing.

animal magic
19-09-06, 05:57 PM
must be pretty good to agree to this deal

kopite_rob
19-09-06, 06:19 PM
Its not just the SKY ratings its the complete lack of opposition from NASN, the Nothing but Absolute Sh**e Network.
I still prefer C5 coverage,but thats a debate for another time.

Just joined the pickums league,hopefully it won't take too long to catch up!! :p

animal magic
19-09-06, 06:21 PM
Its not just the SKY ratings its the complete lack of opposition from NASN, the Nothing but Absolute Sh**e Network.
I still prefer C5 coverage,but thats a debate for another time.

Just joined the pickums league,hopefully it won't take too long to catch up!! :p


i know that station is awful i dont want to what canadian college football
welcome by the way :handshake:

TartanTerror
19-09-06, 10:55 PM
Well, I must say I am shocked by the number of NFL fans you guys have on board here. I have lurked on various LFC boards over the last few years and it seemed that there was little interest in the NFL. I grew up in New Orleans and will always be a Saints fan myself. :o Sadly, My first post on your boards is in an NFL thread - even on LFC boards I cannot escape the NFL :shake: :D

hoeyd2
20-09-06, 09:38 AM
Well wen shocked everyone by battering the texans. No one saw that coming did they.

Yeah, that was a real blindside.

Next week against Jacksonville will be a huge game.

hoeyd2
20-09-06, 09:39 AM
Its not just the SKY ratings its the complete lack of opposition from NASN, the Nothing but Absolute Sh**e Network.
I still prefer C5 coverage,but thats a debate for another time.

Just joined the pickums league,hopefully it won't take too long to catch up!! :p

NASN should look to secure some broadcasting for normal college football.

I think there's a decent enough potential audience for it in the UK & Ireland.

kopite_rob
20-09-06, 04:35 PM
They did have!!For the last few years its had College Gameday and first rate top 25 team football.
Having failed to renegotiate the contract its stuck with SEC on the local Lincoln Financial Channel.Great if your a Florida or Alabama fan,not so good if your not :(

hoeyd2
20-09-06, 05:00 PM
They did have!!For the last few years its had College Gameday and first rate top 25 team football.
Having failed to renegotiate the contract its stuck with SEC on the local Lincoln Financial Channel.Great if your a Florida or Alabama fan,not so good if your not :(

Well that sucks.

I wasn't aware of NASN much before this year (bucked up the money for more stations).

Actually, that would explain the Arkansas-Vanderbilt debacle I saw on there the other night.

Seriously, not a good advertisement for college football.

Whats his name, the Arkansas QB, was floating the ball upfield. Easy interceptions going all the time.

REDSCOUSER
22-09-06, 04:42 AM
Its not just the SKY ratings its the complete lack of opposition from NASN, the Nothing but Absolute Sh**e Network.
I still prefer C5 coverage,but thats a debate for another time.

Just joined the pickums league,hopefully it won't take too long to catch up!! :p

welcome MR Ditka :p
we have to catch up with Hoy2 he's flying :o

hoeyd2
22-09-06, 08:43 AM
welcome MR Ditka :p
we have to catch up with Hoy2 he's flying :o

:rock:

Don't forget to enter your picks this week.

REDSCOUSER
22-09-06, 03:40 PM
:rock:

Don't forget to enter your picks this week.

did it on Wedensday :D just incase i forgot again :o

hoeyd2
25-09-06, 10:01 AM
This morning I am depressed.

REDSCOUSER
25-09-06, 03:31 PM
The Broncos ran the game very well, Bell had a blinder. The pats had no running game so they were forced to throw on every down.
Also, I am begining to have doubt over the Giants, they got spanked nice and proper yesterday by the Seahawks who looked mighty good.

hoeyd2
25-09-06, 03:55 PM
The Broncos ran the game very well, Bell had a blinder. The pats had no running game so they were forced to throw on every down.
Also, I am begining to have doubt over the Giants, they got spanked nice and proper yesterday by the Seahawks who looked mighty good.

Yeah, for some reason Shanahan has Belichick's number. Having not been able to see the game, I have to go on what the reports say, but it sounds like the Broncos run-stuff could have been overcome if the Pats offensive line were at all up to the task. And, it seems like it will indeed take a few more games for Brady to get in line with Jackson and Gabriel. I just hope they click before the playoffs (the AFC East is weak again - so the Pats should win it). But fair play to Denver. They do it every time.

The Giants were getting spanked for most of that Seattle game. It was ugly.

I may have to review my Super Bowl prediction. But I'll wait one more week to do that.

animal magic
25-09-06, 04:46 PM
miami won at last :rock:

hoeyd2
25-09-06, 04:48 PM
miami won at last :rock:
Yeah, against a real contender too.;)

animal magic
25-09-06, 04:49 PM
i watched the benegals last night were quite impressive might do well this season

animal magic
25-09-06, 04:49 PM
Yeah, against a real contender too.;)


a win is a win :D

hoeyd2
25-09-06, 04:51 PM
i watched the benegals last night were quite impressive might do well this season

They won ugly, but that was against the champs, and without a number of their starters on defense.

Johnson was covered the entire game and they still managed to pass well.

I was impressed.

animal magic
25-09-06, 04:55 PM
winning ugly is fine as long as you win i guess

REDSCOUSER
25-09-06, 05:48 PM
I started watchin' the Seahawks/Giants game when it was like 24-0 before halftime, can't remember then decided to switch off, then came back and it was 42-30..gobsmacking.
The Bengals are looking good but it's another story in the play offs.

hoeyd2
25-09-06, 05:58 PM
I started watchin' the Seahawks/Giants game when it was like 24-0 before halftime, can't remember then decided to switch off, then came back and it was 42-30..gobsmacking.
The Bengals are looking good but it's another story in the play offs.

:handshake: Playing well now is good.

Playing well in January is better.

Los Rojos
25-09-06, 06:34 PM
This morning I am depressed.

:D Another Denver win :rock:

Mattshark
27-09-06, 03:08 PM
Colts sock all by winning :)

Jacksonville fans were so confident as well, hehehe.

hoeyd2
27-09-06, 04:46 PM
Well, ye have a lot less problems that we (the Pats) do right now, but if I was a Colts fan, I'd be very worried about that run defense. Jones-Drew, a rookie, managing over 100yds on 13 carries. That's porous.

Still, you did what was necessary to win.

Mattshark
27-09-06, 04:50 PM
Well, ye have a lot less problems that we (the Pats) do right now, but if I was a Colts fan, I'd be very worried about that run defense. Jones-Drew, a rookie, managing over 100yds on 13 carries. That's porous.

Still, you did what was necessary to win.
We always do at this time of year, we just need to continue it on to the bloody playoffs, unless of course we have play the chargers, then it is no problem.

hoeyd2
27-09-06, 04:54 PM
We always do at this time of year, we just need to continue it on to the bloody playoffs, unless of course we have play the chargers, then it is no problem.

:haha: That would be some playoff game... The coach who does everything to ensure his team loses in the playoffs, versus the quarterback who does everything to ensure his team loses in the playoffs.

Mattshark
27-09-06, 04:56 PM
:haha: That would be some playoff game... The coach who does everything to ensure his team loses in the playoffs, versus the quarterback who does everything to ensure his team loses in the playoffs.
we played them a couple of years ago, we won something like 46-10.

hoeyd2
27-09-06, 05:03 PM
we played them a couple of years ago, we won something like 46-10.

The last time you guys played San Diego in the postseason was the 1995 season in the Wild Card round. The Colts won 35-20.

At this stage I would never bet on Peyton Manning winning in the playoffs. And neither would I bet on Marty Schottenheimer.

Mattshark
27-09-06, 05:07 PM
The last time you guys played San Diego in the postseason was the 1995 season in the Wild Card round. The Colts won 35-20.

At this stage I would never bet on Peyton Manning winning in the playoffs. And neither would I bet on Marty Schottenheimer.
Sorry confused them with the Broncos, who we beat 41-10.

hoeyd2
27-09-06, 05:24 PM
Sorry confused them with the Broncos, who we beat 41-10.

That you did.

Now, Shanahan has an idea how to win in the post season. It's far from a gimme.

hoeyd2
29-09-06, 12:38 PM
Don't forget to enter your picks for this week, Redscouser, and anyone else doing the pick'em league.

REDSCOUSER
29-09-06, 06:45 PM
it's been entered Wednesday night after checking the team news ;)

Fiddy
29-09-06, 07:01 PM
Where's Mucky? I have a burning desire to take the piss out of his beloved Redskins.

PS Miami will still win the SB ;)

REDSCOUSER
02-10-06, 11:58 AM
Where's Mucky? I have a burning desire to take the piss out of his beloved Redskins.

PS Miami will still win the SB ;)

There's more chances of finding a women with real tits in Miami than the team winning the SB :crackoff:

spud_gun
02-10-06, 10:41 PM
Eagles vs Packers tonight.

Mcnabb vs Farve.

Should be a cracking game.

It's on channel 5 at 12.50am for the insomniacs amongst us.

Fiddy
02-10-06, 11:25 PM
There's more chances of finding a women with real tits in Miami than the team winning the SB :crackoff:

Not wrong there. The 'Boys ain't looking too shabby tho are they? Even with the TO circus..

hoeyd2
04-10-06, 10:54 AM
Drew Bledsoe is too immobile to be a threat in the post season.

But go Pats!

That was a battering!

Mattshark
05-10-06, 01:59 AM
We won again


YAY!
Go Colts.

REDSCOUSER
05-10-06, 11:37 PM
Not wrong there. The 'Boys ain't looking too shabby tho are they? Even with the TO circus..

yeh fids mate not too bad, but I agree with Hoey that Bledsoe is not a QB to lead a team in the playoffs. Owens had a good game Sunday inspite of his injury.
The Eagles are looking menacing so far, so is the Bears.
AFC looks a bit weaker this season, both the Colts & Pats are stuttering while the Broncos are struggling a bit for form.

hoeyd2
06-10-06, 09:38 AM
yeh fids mate not too bad, but I agree with Hoey that Bledsoe is not a QB to lead a team in the playoffs. Owens had a good game Sunday inspite of his injury.
The Eagles are looking menacing so far, so is the Bears.
AFC looks a bit weaker this season, both the Colts & Pats are stuttering while the Broncos are struggling a bit for form.

The Bears though, they look to be the only really good team in the NFC. On all sides of the ball. Remains to be seen how Grossman can handle neck-on-the-line pressure games in January though.

The Eagles still have no running game. Westbrook is injured again.

And Stallworth's hammy is acting up.

That spells trouble. It's a cliche, but Defense and a running game are absolute necessity in the post-season. Philly are ok defensively (although that collapse against New York stunk) but they can't run the ball.

REDSCOUSER
07-10-06, 01:48 PM
Philly v the BOYS sunday is live..can't wait for that.
Looking forward also to the Ravens x Broncos match.

Agree again, the running game is very important to every team. If you have a good RB it helps with the throwing game.

spud_gun
07-10-06, 01:50 PM
Philly v the BOYS sunday is live..can't wait for that.


T.O's return to Philly is the biggest thing in the NFL this season, bar the superbowl. This game is going to be huge.

Can't wait to see Dawkins and co stomp all over T.O

E.A.G.L.E.S

Fiddy
07-10-06, 03:17 PM
The Bears though, they look to be the only really good team in the NFC. On all sides of the ball. Remains to be seen how Grossman can handle neck-on-the-line pressure games in January though.

The Eagles still have no running game. Westbrook is injured again.

And Stallworth's hammy is acting up.

That spells trouble. It's a cliche, but Defense and a running game are absolute necessity in the post-season. Philly are ok defensively (although that collapse against New York stunk) but they can't run the ball.

I think the fact they're 5th in the league in rushing yards and joint second with 5 rushing TD's kind of disputes that...it's a myth they can't run the ball, Westbrook was on pace for over 1,300 yards before he got injured. I've got a feeling the Superbowl winner will come from the NFC this year - one of the Bears, Hawks, Eagles, Boys or maybe even Atlanta if they keep running all over teams like they have been. But I think Grossman will get injured and that will derail the Bears. Don't really fancy any of the AFC teams, except maybe Baltimore if they can get a passing game going.

REDSCOUSER
07-10-06, 04:05 PM
T.O's return to Philly is the biggest thing in the NFL this season, bar the superbowl. This game is going to be huge.

Can't wait to see Dawkins and co stomp all over T.O

E.A.G.L.E.S

C.O.W.B.O.Y.S :rock:

Fiddy
08-10-06, 04:06 PM
C.O.W.B.O.Y.S :rock:

I actually think they'll win, as long as Bledsoe doesn't throw too many bonehead picks. Having Correll 'Fumbles' Buckhalter in the Eagles backfield is only good for your lot :D

spud_gun
09-10-06, 12:49 AM
I actually think they'll win, as long as Bledsoe doesn't throw too many bonehead picks. Having Correll 'Fumbles' Buckhalter in the Eagles backfield is only good for your lot :D

:crackoff:

:handshake:

lfc4ever
09-10-06, 01:01 AM
102 yard int return - nice!

Fiddy
09-10-06, 01:50 AM
102 yard int return - nice!

What was I saying about bonehead picks? TO's face was a picture.

How shocking was Bledsoe's TD run earlier though, never seen him move so fast, and he took a good lick too :rock:

Fiddy
09-10-06, 01:52 AM
:crackoff:

:handshake:

What, I was right wasn't I? Was surprised to see Westbrook playing too, that made a big difference even though he wasn't 100%

spud_gun
09-10-06, 11:53 AM
What, I was right wasn't I? Was surprised to see Westbrook playing too, that made a big difference even though he wasn't 100%


The difference was the Eagles D. They never gave Bledsoe a minute.

Los Rojos
10-10-06, 09:14 PM
From the BBC - 'Baltimore Ravens quarterback Steve McNair was intercepted three times as the Denver Broncos swept to a 13-3 triumph and their third win this term'. :rock:

REDSCOUSER
11-10-06, 03:11 AM
What was I saying about bonehead picks? TO's face was a picture.

How shocking was Bledsoe's TD run earlier though, never seen him move so fast, and he took a good lick too :rock:

I was gonna throw the telly out of the window when he threw that INT :grr:
A nice drive that almost culminated in tying the score and the muppet throws a INT returned for a 102 yard TD :rant:
Bledsoe will never get the BOYS to the SB..I say never. :cry:

hoeyd2
11-10-06, 10:08 AM
I was gonna throw the telly out of the window when he threw that INT :grr:
A nice drive that almost culminated in tying the score and the muppet throws a INT returned for a 102 yard TD :rant:
Bledsoe will never get the BOYS to the SB..I say never. :cry:

Well I hear Chris Simms might not get his job back at Tampa Bay.

Gradkowski looks good.

I could imagine a new HC and a new QB at Dallas next year. Simms would be a good aquisition.

By the way, I point to exhibits A (Rex Grossman) & B (Philip Rivers) in the argument to have your young quarterbacks sit and watch the game for a while before playing. Grossman gets injured for a couple of years, but keeps studying, keeps watching, has settled things in his head, knows what defenses will give him, then steps out and plays like Brady. Same with Rivers, minus the injury (although I have less confidence in the coaching set-up around Rivers).

Mattshark
11-10-06, 10:25 AM
Well I'm shocked, we had a low scoring game 14-13 win.

hoeyd2
11-10-06, 10:31 AM
I think the fact they're 5th in the league in rushing yards and joint second with 5 rushing TD's kind of disputes that...it's a myth they can't run the ball, Westbrook was on pace for over 1,300 yards before he got injured. I've got a feeling the Superbowl winner will come from the NFC this year - one of the Bears, Hawks, Eagles, Boys or maybe even Atlanta if they keep running all over teams like they have been. But I think Grossman will get injured and that will derail the Bears. Don't really fancy any of the AFC teams, except maybe Baltimore if they can get a passing game going.

There are fatal flaws with the Boys (QB and too much TO), Atlanta (no matter what anyone says, Vick still can't pass well enough to come up big in big situations), Hawks (O-Line isn't the same without Hutchinson, and Walter Jones can't run block - yes your tackles should be able to run block, unless your guard is Steve Hutchinson, then you're ok), and the Eagles (running game - I'll get to that in a second). The Bears are the only team I could see winning it all. But even there I'm naturally suspicious of teams that charge out of the blocks in the regular season (cf Indy the last few years).

As regards the Eagles running game, I must hold my hands up, I wasn't aware of Westbrook's yardage through the first couple of games. His numbers now project to about 1100 yds (running - his all purpose yds will be, as usual, much higher), and his health looks dodgy.

BUT, I do not expect him to keep that up. I can't see him running well between the tackles for hard yards in winter (what really good, championship-winning running games are built on). Westbrook would be one hell of a cog in a multi-faceted back field, but with Philly it's Westbrook or no-one (Buckhalter and Moats won't be able to do a Dillon or Bettis). I do think that they will meet some defenses that are smart enough to confuse the passing game. Jacksonville, Carolina and the Giants could all cause them problems in that regard. What will they go to then?

One thing the Eagles do have in their favour is that they are an NFC team. The postseason is decidely more forgiving over there. I couldn't see them beating Denver, New England or San Diego (Marty-ball or no Marty-ball) in January.

hoeyd2
11-10-06, 10:34 AM
Well I'm shocked, we had a low scoring game 14-13 win.

And Travis Henry carved you up for 123 yards on the ground.

You may be undefeated, but if I was an Indy fan I'd be a bit worried.

I could see Indy losses @ Denver, @ New England, @ Jacksonville and at home to Cincinatti.

Still undefeated is undefeated.

hoeyd2
17-10-06, 09:19 AM
How the hell did the Bears get away with that one?

red_in_oz
17-10-06, 02:26 PM
Cards 23 Bears 24. What a game!

Matt Leinart was awesome and so were the Cards defence.

Shame they couldn't complete the job and win the game.

Bears were lucky!

Zombie-Dave
17-10-06, 04:07 PM
rrrrrrrrrrrrr lrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk thrrrrrrrrrrr srrrrrrrrrrrhrrrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkksssssssss.

hoeyd2
17-10-06, 04:08 PM
rrrrrrrrrrrrr lrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk thrrrrrrrrrrr srrrrrrrrrrrhrrrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkksssssssss.

Yeah, big fan of Hasselbeck.

But I think they're o-line needs a lot of work.

Fiddy
17-10-06, 11:42 PM
Anyone seen the Miami-FIU brawl from the other night?! Brilliant :D

saveferris
18-10-06, 01:08 AM
The Bears are the only team I could see winning it all. But even there I'm naturally suspicious of teams that charge out of the blocks in the regular season (cf Indy the last few years).

I think the Bears real challenge will be the first playoff game (as they seem to be getting there). Last year they had a really solid season but were awful against the Panthers and just fell apart. Its whether they can handle the pressure of being there.

The Eagles and Seahawks especially have positive experiences of it and that could work in their favour.

But so far so good for the Bears building on last years really good defensive performances. Woo hoo :rock:

hoeyd2
18-10-06, 10:22 AM
Anyone seen the Miami-FIU brawl from the other night?! Brilliant :D

It was amazing!

When that dude started lashing people out of it with his helmet!

And then all the players running off celebrating! Priceless.

REDSCOUSER
18-10-06, 03:26 PM
How the hell did the Bears get away with that one?

Unfuckingbelievable, i went to bed at half time(10.30 pm est) when the score was 20-0 to the Cardinals. Then I checked NFL.COM website only to see a Bears win. Watched the hilights afterwards which showed 3 defensive Chicago touchdowns.
Defence wins championships, the Bears looks good at 6-0 as long as they don't choke in the Playoffs like last season.

hoeyd2
18-10-06, 04:05 PM
Un****ingbelievable, i went to bed at half time(10.30 pm est) when the score was 20-0 to the Cardinals. Then I checked NFL.COM website only to see a Bears win. Watched the hilights afterwards which showed 3 defensive Chicago touchdowns.
Defence wins championships, the Bears looks good at 6-0 as long as they don't choke in the Playoffs like last season.

Also needed to win championships is a quarterback who doesnt commit 6 turnovers against Arizona.

REDSCOUSER
19-10-06, 11:44 AM
Thats true mate, it's the worst I've seen Grossman play for ages.
Three stellar games this weekend
Cinci x Carolina
Atlanta x Pittsburgh
and the Monday nighter
Cowboys x Giants

spud_gun
22-10-06, 09:06 PM
fk me.

Tampa Bay just beat the Eagles with a 62 yard field goal as time expired

:chunks: :rant: :chunks:

red_in_oz
23-10-06, 11:26 AM
fk me.

Tampa Bay just beat the Eagles with a 62 yard field goal as time expired

:chunks: :rant: :chunks:

Equally as shocking: the Raiders won a game! :rock:

hoeyd2
23-10-06, 11:30 AM
Great day for kickers.

Tynes, Anderson, Bryant.

Steelers @ Falcons was a great game to watch. I really think Charlie Batch is showing himself to be one of the 2 or 3 best backup QBs in the league.

red_in_oz
23-10-06, 11:37 AM
I'm home for the Cowboys v Giants game tomorrow morning. (Great thing about living in Oz: NFL games are always on in the mid-morning!).

Hopefully we'll see a cracker!

hoeyd2
23-10-06, 04:34 PM
Hope the Giants win it. (Sorry REDS). During the pre-season I put money on a Patriots - Giants Super Bowl. Pays off nicely.

And both teams are rounding in to form.

REDSCOUSER
23-10-06, 10:30 PM
No worries mate, you have riding on the Giants ;)
Whoever wins will go top of that tought Eastern Division.
JJ is slowly turning into a fine RB for the BOYS, hope he can do the buiss tonight.
It will be tight but I think the BOYS will win it 24-14

hoeyd2
24-10-06, 08:55 AM
Tough break.

The Giants are gearing up and turning in to a sack machine.

I like Parcells, but goodness me, that was the wrong time to change quarterback.

REDSCOUSER
24-10-06, 01:45 PM
Tough break.

The Giants are gearing up and turning in to a sack machine.

I like Parcells, but goodness me, that was the wrong time to change quarterback.

when you turnover the ball 4 times against a good team like the Giants, you will be punished. I was hopeful of a comeback 'till Romo threw that 96 yd int returned for a td. They were down the 5 yrd line of NY then fucked it up.
Parcells had to make a move in the 2nd half, Bledsoe was having a 'mare. On the other hand, if his blockers were doing their job he would not have been sacked as many times as he did. Terrible blocking from the offensive line.
Also, the running game was not working for the BOYS last night, JJ could not get a break, while Barber(repsect to him) ran riot. He will be missed next season after his retirement.

hoeyd2
24-10-06, 04:41 PM
I think Bledsoe finishing the game would have given them a better chance. (I'm not a huge Bledsoe fan overall, but I like unforced mid-game QB switches even less).

Like you said, the o-line was appalling, though. Until that gets better, Jones, Bledsoe and Romo could all struggle.

But on Tiki..... You're dead right, he'll be huge loss. People can have their Tomlinson, and Alexander. I've come to believe that the 2 best backs in the NFL are Barber and Dunn.

And Barber gets it done with an unspectacular o-line.

Mattshark
24-10-06, 05:01 PM
6-0 after trailing 14-13 at ht a great second half :D

REDSCOUSER
24-10-06, 06:06 PM
Table after week 7

Hoeyd2 52-48
redscouser 43-41
kopite rob 21-19

Fiddy
25-10-06, 12:13 AM
I think Bledsoe finishing the game would have given them a better chance. (I'm not a huge Bledsoe fan overall, but I like unforced mid-game QB switches even less).

Like you said, the o-line was appalling, though. Until that gets better, Jones, Bledsoe and Romo could all struggle.

But on Tiki..... You're dead right, he'll be huge loss. People can have their Tomlinson, and Alexander. I've come to believe that the 2 best backs in the NFL are Barber and Dunn.

And Barber gets it done with an unspectacular o-line.

Unlike LT though, he doesn't throw 2 TD's as well every season :D

And oh boy is it great having him in my fantasy team

MARTINOZ
25-10-06, 06:55 AM
How are the 49ers going ?

Go '9ers !

hoeyd2
25-10-06, 09:15 AM
How are the 49ers going ?

Go '9ers !

Just great.

Sure fire Super Bowl team this year.

hoeyd2
25-10-06, 09:18 AM
6-0 after trailing 14-13 at ht a great second half :D

Beware the Broncos.... (next week)

And the Patriots.... (the week after)

And yet somehow even if the Colts won every game this regular season, I wouldn't put a penny on them to win in the playoffs.

Sorry for constantly picking out the Colts bad points, though. You guys are still undefeated. That counts.

spud_gun
25-10-06, 10:55 AM
Beware the Broncos.... (next week)

And the Patriots.... (the week after)

And yet somehow even if the Colts won every game this regular season, I wouldn't put a penny on them to win in the playoffs.

Sorry for constantly picking out the Colts bad points, though. You guys are still undefeated. That counts.

Cue another 14-2 or 12-4 season from the Colts and then a defeat to Denver in the playoffs :D

Mattshark
25-10-06, 03:29 PM
Beware the Broncos.... (next week)

And the Patriots.... (the week after)

And yet somehow even if the Colts won every game this regular season, I wouldn't put a penny on them to win in the playoffs.

Sorry for constantly picking out the Colts bad points, though. You guys are still undefeated. That counts.
We'll beat them and then we'll win the superbowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hoeyd2
25-10-06, 04:13 PM
We'll beat them and then we'll win the superbowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Emm, no...no you won't.

MARTINOZ
25-10-06, 11:07 PM
Just great.

Sure fire Super Bowl team this year.

I sense sarcasm .

Red Star
26-10-06, 12:49 AM
Count me in as a fan of the NFL. Redskins fan since '82. They have been awful this season though :shake:

hoeyd2
26-10-06, 08:44 AM
I sense sarcasm .

You sense well.

In reality, though, they're much improved on last year. Alex Smith has stepped up his game and is going to be a very good quarterback. He's got Trent Dilfer to back him up (good solid, old, experienced head). And Norv Turner is his new OC (good record with developing young QBs).

They could well be a playoff team in couple of years.

Mattshark
26-10-06, 01:16 PM
Emm, no...no you won't.
yes we will

Fiddy
27-10-06, 12:42 AM
You sense well.

In reality, though, they're much improved on last year. Alex Smith has stepped up his game and is going to be a very good quarterback. He's got Trent Dilfer to back him up (good solid, old, experienced head). And Norv Turner is his new OC (good record with developing young QBs).

They could well be a playoff team in couple of years.

Not to mention Frank Gore, and the first signs of a decent defense they've had in years...I'm still glad though when any of my fantasy team is up against them ;)

hoeyd2
27-10-06, 09:19 AM
Not to mention Frank Gore, and the first signs of a decent defense they've had in years...I'm still glad though when any of my fantasy team is up against them ;)

Yeah, Frank Gore has done really well, and Manny Lawson was a very good pick.

Many people said Lawson was the best defensive end to come out of NC State last year, and Mario Williams isn't exactly proving otherwise.

Lawson was a guy I wanted the Patriots to draft to play OLB.

Still, I guess I'm happy with Maroney ;)

REDSCOUSER
27-10-06, 12:07 PM
I saw a box set of all the super bowls at HMV yesterday. A four box set with 3 dvds in each. Amazing all the stuff they have in it. Price was 205$/Cdn.
Could not afford that so I bought DALLAS COWBOYS super bowls special 2 DVD with all the highlights and such of their 5 championships. Should take me an afternoon to finish. :D

hoeyd2
27-10-06, 01:21 PM
I saw a box set of all the super bowls at HMV yesterday. A four box set with 3 dvds in each. Amazing all the stuff they have in it. Price was 205$/Cdn.
Could not afford that so I bought DALLAS COWBOYS super bowls special 2 DVD with all the highlights and such of their 5 championships. Should take me an afternoon to finish. :D

That's so cool.

Might see if I can get a better price on eBay.

REDSCOUSER
27-10-06, 02:08 PM
That's so cool.

Might see if I can get a better price on eBay.


just be careful mate cos some of them might be selling them individually. It's cheaper to buy the whole box set..it was 80$ for each individual set..they divvy them up from SB 1-10 THEN 11-20 & so on.

hoeyd2
27-10-06, 03:07 PM
just be careful mate cos some of them might be selling them individually. It's cheaper to buy the whole box set..it was 80$ for each individual set..they divvy them up from SB 1-10 THEN 11-20 & so on.

Thanks for the heads up. :handshake:

Fiddy
27-10-06, 11:22 PM
I saw a box set of all the super bowls at HMV yesterday. A four box set with 3 dvds in each. Amazing all the stuff they have in it. Price was 205$/Cdn.
Could not afford that so I bought DALLAS COWBOYS super bowls special 2 DVD with all the highlights and such of their 5 championships. Should take me an afternoon to finish. :D

I've been lookin in HMV for football videos for years and never found any...lucky boy. All I really want is a good hits one, downloaded a few off the net. A Jacked Up compilation would be good :D

Good weekend of games comin up actually, had some problems deciding who to go for on the nfluk predictions thing. At least I don't have the trauma of sticking with Miami this wk only to see them lose again....seeing as the Phins are on a bye

Mattshark
30-10-06, 12:00 PM
So we are gonna loose the the Bronco's eh :D, can you say 7-0

hoeyd2
31-10-06, 09:17 AM
Fair balls, you did well.

But you and the rest of the NFL should be getting worried.

The Patriots are getting better, and better, and better.

Anyway, the Colts aren't doing anything they didn't do last year.

It's all about January.

And that's when Peyton plays worst.

Sure, you almost had a perfect regular season last year. Then look.

Only a foolish man would put money on the Colts in the playoffs.

Mattshark
31-10-06, 10:15 AM
Fair balls, you did well.

But you and the rest of the NFL should be getting worried.

The Patriots are getting better, and better, and better.

Anyway, the Colts aren't doing anything they didn't do last year.

It's all about January.

And that's when Peyton plays worst.

Sure, you almost had a perfect regular season last year. Then look.

Only a foolish man would put money on the Colts in the playoffs.
Lol
We gotta get it right some time. Why not this year, Pats are going down next week :p hehe

hoeyd2
31-10-06, 10:23 AM
Lol
We gotta get it right some time. Why not this year, Pats are going down next week :p hehe

Ha Ha! Not a chance (well, there is a chance, you're a good team)

Manning has a long history of choking. Here's to more of the same this year! *clink*

Mattshark
31-10-06, 10:35 AM
Ha Ha! Not a chance (well, there is a chance, you're a good team)

Manning has a long history of choking. Here's to more of the same this year! *clink*
I dispute that, last season against the Steelers we where just very unlucky at the end and I don't think Dungee was in the best mind-state at the time.

hoeyd2
31-10-06, 10:37 AM
Ah come one, it's always something.

Thing in the same way Brady usually finds a way to win, Manning usually finds a way to lose.

And then blames his offensive line after wards.

Mattshark
31-10-06, 10:47 AM
Ah come one, it's always something.

Thing in the same way Brady usually finds a way to win, Manning usually finds a way to lose.

And then blames his offensive line after wards.
Well we did miss a last minute field goal.

hoeyd2
31-10-06, 10:54 AM
Like I said, it's always something.

Mattshark
31-10-06, 11:01 AM
Like I said, it's always something.
lol, i don't think manning can be blamed for vanderjakt's miss can he.

hoeyd2
31-10-06, 11:14 AM
The point is, what is Manning's record in big play-off games?

There were plenty of other things Peyton didn't do right in that game.

Then he goes and slaughters his own o-line in the press.

Vanderjagt is an idiot and that was one of the worst big-pressure kicks of all time. But Manning loses consistently when the season is on the line. Always has.

Fiddy
01-11-06, 10:44 PM
lol, i don't think manning can be blamed for vanderjakt's miss can he.

If Pay-ton was so great, it wouldn't be coming down to the boot of an idiot kicker.

Personally I think if the Colts even made it to the Superbow,l he'd melt in the biggest choke of all time...when a game's on the line he's fine, but when it's a season he tightens up.

hoeyd2
02-11-06, 11:32 AM
Well, I have a slight caveat there.

Vinatieri's kicks won games for the Patriots.

But Brady put him in position to do that. Brady game managed, knowing the tools available (which included a proven, reliable kicker who wouldn't miss). He found a way to win.

Manning found a way to lose. By putting the game in the hands of a kicker he didn't trust. His record is an extension of that. Finding ways to lose.

Fiddy
03-11-06, 01:32 AM
Well, I have a slight caveat there.

Vinatieri's kicks won games for the Patriots.

But Brady put him in position to do that. Brady game managed, knowing the tools available (which included a proven, reliable kicker who wouldn't miss). He found a way to win.

Manning found a way to lose. By putting the game in the hands of a kicker he didn't trust. His record is an extension of that. Finding ways to lose.

True.

But in a FG attempt for your life, you'd not have a problem with Vinatieri kicking it....Vandy on the other hand...no way Peyton would put the game on his dodgy right foot.

Be interesting to see now that he has Vinatieri on his team, maybe that could be the difference this year?

red_in_oz
03-11-06, 02:21 AM
Be interesting to see now that he has Vinatieri on his team, maybe that could be the difference this year?

Defense is the difference.

A good defense is what's undone the Colts each postseason. That, and maybe that little voice in the Colts' heads that nags at them that they "can't win the big one".

The Colts v Patriots won't be like the Broncos game. That was more of a "last team to have the ball wins it" sort of game.

Colts v Patriots should be lower scoring and I'd expect the Pats defense to step up and limit the Colts offense.

Vrabel & Bruschi plus Junior Seau playing like he's 27 again! Could be difficult for Peyton. PLUS Brady is managing the game well again.

Should be a good game to watch.

hoeyd2
03-11-06, 10:22 AM
True.

But in a FG attempt for your life, you'd not have a problem with Vinatieri kicking it....Vandy on the other hand...no way Peyton would put the game on his dodgy right foot.

Be interesting to see now that he has Vinatieri on his team, maybe that could be the difference this year?

Yes, I absolutely agree with you.

Peyton should not have been looking to put the game on the boot of an unreliable kicker.

You know your available tools and game plan accordingly.

hoeyd2
03-11-06, 10:29 AM
Defense is the difference.

A good defense is what's undone the Colts each postseason. That, and maybe that little voice in the Colts' heads that nags at them that they "can't win the big one".

The Colts v Patriots won't be like the Broncos game. That was more of a "last team to have the ball wins it" sort of game.

Colts v Patriots should be lower scoring and I'd expect the Pats defense to step up and limit the Colts offense.

Vrabel & Bruschi plus Junior Seau playing like he's 27 again! Could be difficult for Peyton. PLUS Brady is managing the game well again.

Should be a good game to watch.

I have to say I was quite surprised at the Broncos defense last week. They just kept the same look almost the entire game and hoped their offense could hang on in a shoot out.

Belichick will be designing all kinds of schemes and looks for Peyton.

I think a low scoring game is in order, too.

Maybe something akin to the 20-3 game in the playoffs 2 years ago.

And on Junior... his play has been amazing. Tracking tight ends down field. Making stops behind the line of scrimmage (crucial considering Beisel routinely met runners 4-5 yards downfield).

He's been a big part of the difference between this year and last year. We began the season with Vrabel-Beisel-Brown-McGinest at LB. This year it's Vrabel-Seau-Bruschi-Colvin. Talk about an upgrade.

philred10
03-11-06, 01:28 PM
lawrence marowney to have a career game on sunday with Dillon finishing off the drives. Manning might have another great game as he did last week but i dont see him getting the same time in the pocket as last week along with open receivers. have to say i liked the look of the new receiving core of the patriots, thought they'd miss branch and especially givens. either way as has been mentioned colts will bottle it in the playoffs.

hoeyd2
03-11-06, 01:52 PM
The Patriots will have an absolutely top drawer receiving corps when Chad Jackson develops past his rookie form he's going to be a monster.

Doug Gabriel was a steal and Reche Caldwell is a lot better than his San Diego numbers suggested.

hoeyd2
06-11-06, 08:29 AM
Well, Mattshark, congratulations. Your boys did very well. It was a big win for them, and Manning had an excellent game.

See you in January, it will be fun to see you fall from your height ;)

Fiddy
07-11-06, 01:18 AM
Well, Mattshark, congratulations. Your boys did very well. It was a big win for them, and Manning had an excellent game.

See you in January, it will be fun to see you fall from your height ;)

Fuck that, seeya later Bears!! :cheerleader:

hoeyd2
07-11-06, 09:57 AM
Yeah, that was quite a win!

Playoffs beckon for the Fins!!!!!

Mattshark
08-11-06, 01:28 AM
Well, Mattshark, congratulations. Your boys did very well. It was a big win for them, and Manning had an excellent game.

See you in January, it will be fun to see you fall from your height ;)
We won't have any trouble if you keep trying to pass around us instead of running. Marvin rocked last too.

hoeyd2
08-11-06, 08:44 AM
Yep, that's true. I couldn't understand it.

We got 100 yards rushing in the first half and then abandoned the run.

There was no need to start running pansy trick plays. Just run the football and keep Peyton and Marvin off the field as long as possible.

I'm backing Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels to learn from this. They better.

REDSCOUSER
10-11-06, 03:55 PM
Two big matches this week
Chragers x Bengals (barn burner that one)
Bears x Giants (defensive battle)

hoeyd2
10-11-06, 04:02 PM
Funily enough I actually think the Bears Giants game will turn out to be an offensive battle. I'm picking the Giants for that reason. Grossman has shown some really worrying signs the last few weeks. And I now believe they could genuinely lose to anyone.

Looking forward to seeing the Chargers Bengals game. That's on sky. It'll be the first time I've seen the Chargers this year. Relishing that.

REDSCOUSER
10-11-06, 04:27 PM
After finishing on 4-10 last week I am begining to see how unpredictable the NFL is. Which is good. ;)

Red Star
10-11-06, 04:55 PM
I've only picked 73 right all season! Parity gone wild:shake:

Looking forward to seeing the Chargers also. LT has to be the best back in the league right now (and he is on my fantasy team:cool: ) so hoping he can get in the end zone a few times.

Bears-Giants. I can see that being a low-scoring affair. Both teams have offensive injuries (Berrian and Toomer) and solid defenses. 17-10 Giants for me.

Watch it turn into a 45-42 OT classic:rolleyes:

red_in_oz
12-11-06, 11:41 AM
Bears-Giants. I can see that being a low-scoring affair. Both teams have offensive injuries (Berrian and Toomer) and solid defenses. 17-10 Giants for me.

Watch it turn into a 45-42 OT classic:rolleyes:

This should be another good test for the Bears who've been a bit over-hyped all season.

The Giants are a solid team with a good running game, good quarterback and sound defense.

I expect it to be close too. So you're right: it will probably be an offensive explosion! :)

red_in_oz
12-11-06, 11:43 AM
Spare a thought for my poor Raiders: vs Broncos this weekend! :(

What chance ANOTHER game without any offense whatsoever? :cry:

Mattshark
12-11-06, 02:00 PM
We can all watch the Colts go 9-0 :D

Mattshark
12-11-06, 11:35 PM
9-0 it is :D

red_in_oz
13-11-06, 06:56 AM
And that Bears v Giants game WAS highscoring.

Bears looked good second half. Grossman played well as did their defense.

Raiders had Denver 13-6 and then got fumblitis!:oh:

REDSCOUSER
14-11-06, 03:39 PM
The Colts will not get to 10-0 cos THE COWBOYS will beat 'em on Sunday ;)

Mattshark
14-11-06, 04:21 PM
The Colts will not get to 10-0 cos THE COWBOYS will beat 'em on Sunday ;):rash:
I believe that is called wishfull thinking :haha:

REDSCOUSER
14-11-06, 04:41 PM
:rash:
I believe that is called wishfull thinking :haha:

we'll see :cool:

Mattshark
14-11-06, 04:50 PM
we'll see :cool:
Aye lad, Peyton and Marvin are gonna batter ya all with big sticks (obviously our running game ain't gonna beat you!):rock:

hoeyd2
14-11-06, 04:59 PM
I still remain unconvinced by the Colts. But I'm not sure the Cowboys have enough to stop them.

Jacksonville look the most likely to do that in the regular season.

Everybody looks primed to do that in January. :haha:

Mattshark
14-11-06, 05:10 PM
I still remain unconvinced by the Colts. But I'm not sure the Cowboys have enough to stop them.

Jacksonville look the most likely to do that in the regular season.

Everybody looks primed to do that in January. :haha:
:bird: :bird:
:rant: :rant: We already beat Jacksonville once this season, we can do it again
we mught be good this jan:sigh:

Radar
14-11-06, 05:40 PM
Redskins will make a run now that we got rid of Brunell and our Dunkin Donut offense.

Jason Campbell come on down you are the next contestant in the Washington Redskins QB race :crackoff: :crackoff: :crackoff:

REDSCOUSER
15-11-06, 01:45 PM
Aye lad, Peyton and Marvin are gonna batter ya all with big sticks (obviously our running game ain't gonna beat you!):rock:

payton will throw 2 INT and one of them is gonna be returned for a TD :finger:

Cowboys will upset the apple cart :finger:

hoeyd2
15-11-06, 01:49 PM
:bird: :bird:
:rant: :rant: We already beat Jacksonville once this season, we can do it again
we mught be good this jan:sigh:

We've seen it all before....

And you may well beat Jacksonville, but they'll provide a very stiff test.

They should have won at the RCA, and they'll be tougher to beat in Florida.

Fiddy
16-11-06, 12:35 AM
I can actually see Dallas knocking off the Colts, tho I'm not sure why exactly.

And even if they don't, look who Indy have got last game of the season...the unbeaten record killers :rock:

red_in_oz
16-11-06, 08:06 AM
Indy won't go 16-0.

The sooner they lose, the better for them as the pressure will just build each week they stay unbeaten.

What they need to ensure is they are 100% mentally in the playoffs. They have underacheived in the playoffs every time.

hoeyd2
16-11-06, 09:13 AM
The winter's all that counts, my friends.

I love when the season gets cold. I love watching games in the snow. That's when the real men come to the fore.

Mattshark
16-11-06, 04:59 PM
payton will throw 2 INT and one of them is gonna be returned for a TD :finger:

Cowboys will upset the apple cart :finger:
I can't see it Peyton is good at not throwing INT's, he only has 3 all season.

REDSCOUSER
16-11-06, 05:06 PM
I can't see it Peyton is good at not throwing INT's, he only has 3 all season.

looking forward to the match regardless, the Colts are setting the standards once again, but we'll see how they cope in the play offs where they always choke ;)

Mattshark
16-11-06, 05:18 PM
looking forward to the match regardless, the Colts are setting the standards once again, but we'll see how they cope in the play offs where they always choke ;)
We gotta get right one year, if the steelers can do it so can we!

hoeyd2
16-11-06, 05:24 PM
Ooh, you were doing so well up until that statement.

Last year's Steelers had a completely different make-up to the Colts. They were a run the ball, defend hard team.

Fiddy
17-11-06, 12:33 AM
Ooh, you were doing so well up until that statement.

Last year's Steelers had a completely different make-up to the Colts. They were a run the ball, defend hard team.

Like pretty much every other recent SB winner, with the exception of the Rams...if Peyton has an off day I'm not convinced the Addai-Rhodes tandem could hold the O up. And the D is still dodgy vs the run, so unless they get up on the scoreboard quickly they can be in for trouble, a la Buffalo last week...

Mattshark
17-11-06, 11:15 AM
Ooh, you were doing so well up until that statement.

Last year's Steelers had a completely different make-up to the Colts. They were a run the ball, defend hard team.
Yeah but still got to the play-offs year in year out for a while and never won till last season.

hoeyd2
17-11-06, 11:35 AM
Like I said, different sort of team.

Thing that got the Steelers to the Super Bowl wasn't that they had tried really hard for years and their number finally came up.

They just played the right brand of football better than everyone else.