View Full Version : Do Arsenal have the strongest strikeforce in the land?
Despite selling Henry, they have:
Van Persie
Adebayor
Eduardo
Bendtner
and soon
Vela.
Scary compared to ours.
Red_Polo
29-12-07, 07:56 PM
They've certainly got real strength in depth there. We're a long way back in this regard - Man Utd, Spurs and Chelsea have also each got a better collection of strikers.
Chelsea possibly soon to add Anelka. :(
What's Vela like, and when is he going to get his permit?
I think that of all the top teams United can claim the best pairing in Tevez and Rooney but they have little by way of variation. I think the best out and out strikers are Torres and Drogba although they are very different in style. At the minute though I think Arsenal do have the best options as you could add Walcott to your list.
I think though that they need Flamini to hold their current team together and people would be surprised at how much less impressive they would look if he was to be out for a long period.
They've certainly got real strength in depth there. We're a long way back in this regard - Man Utd, Spurs and Chelsea have also each got a better collection of strikers.
Chelsea possibly soon to add Anelka. :(
What's Vela like, and when is he going to get his permit?
Vela will join Arsenal in January.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 08:01 PM
No they dont, because none of them is world class.
I don't think it's about having the best strike force,
I think they have more of an ability to create a goal.
i.e counter attack, pace, vision, passing.
Although having someone to put it in the back of the net does help.
They've certainly got real strength in depth there. We're a long way back in this regard - Man Utd, Spurs and Chelsea have also each got a better collection of strikers.
Chelsea possibly soon to add Anelka. :(
What's Vela like, and when is he going to get his permit?
I haven't seen Vela since the under-17 world cup but he is full international now and is looking like another supertalent.
I think he gets his permit next month but whether Arsenal will let him stay in Spain until the summer, I don't know.
No they dont, because none of them is world class.
You could argue Van Persie is world-class.
If he stays fit for a while, that is.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 08:23 PM
Nah, he's not proven that yet.
Observe the following model:
---Reds--Scum--Chavs--Arse
10.Torres---------Drogba
9.--------Rooney--------Van Persie
8.--------Tevez
7.-----------------------Adebayor
6.-----------------------Eduardo
5.-Crouch-Saha---Sheva
4.-----------------------Bendtner
3.----------------Kalou
2.-Kuyt-----------Pizarro
1.-Voronin
This point-based system is designed to demonstrate the comparitive qualiity of the strike forces of the Premierships top four clubs.
Of course it is subjective - feel free to do your own version.
My analysis shows that while Liverpool and Chelsea have the best strikers (one 10-pointer each), Manchester United have the best partnership (a 9 and an 8-pointer) and Arsenal have the most depth (a 9, 7, 6 and 4-pointer).
Here is the overall table:
1.) Arsenal - 26 points
2.) Man U - 22 points
3.) Chelsea - 20 points
4.) Liverpool - 18 points
Nah, he's not proven that yet.
In that case, neither has Torres.
I think Spurs have the strongest strikeforce in the PL.
Berbatov, Keane, Dafoe and Bent give you every option you need.
If they can sort out their midfield and defense then they will have a very strong team. Ramos will probably do that.
I think Spurs have the strongest strikeforce in the PL.
Berbatov, Keane, Dafoe and Bent give you every option you need.
If they can sort out their midfield and defense then they will have a very strong team. Ramos will probably do that.
---Reds--Scum--Chavs--Arse----Spurs
10.Torres---------Drogba
9.--------Rooney--------Van Persie-Berbatov
8.--------Tevez
7.-----------------------Adebayor--Keane
6.-----------------------Eduardo
5.-Crouch-Saha---Sheva------------Defoe
4.-----------------------Bendtner
3.----------------Kalou-------------Bent
2.-Kuyt-----------Pizarro
1.-Voronin
1.) Arsenal - 26 points
2.) Spurs - 24 points
2.) Man U - 22 points
3.) Chelsea - 20 points
4.) Liverpool - 18 points
:handshake:
Good point.
bazza76
29-12-07, 08:55 PM
Observe the following model:
This point-based system is designed to demonstrate the comparitive qualiity of the strike forces of the Premierships top four clubs.
Of course it is subjective - feel free to do your own version.
My analysis shows that while Liverpool and Chelsea have the best strikers (one 10-pointer each), Manchester United have the best partnership (a 9 and an 8-pointer) and Arsenal have the most depth (a 9, 7, 6 and 4-pointer).
Here is the overall table:
1.) Arsenal - 26 points
2.) Man U - 22 points
3.) Chelsea - 20 points
4.) Liverpool - 18 points
Eduardo and Bender do not deserve to be so high on the list, Crouch is better than Eduardo every day, the lad only scored his first Premier League goals today!!!
Bender is still very raw and should be bottom of the list.
bazza76
29-12-07, 08:58 PM
I think Spurs have the strongest strikeforce in the PL.
Berbatov, Keane, Dafoe and Bent give you every option you need.
If they can sort out their midfield and defense then they will have a very strong team. Ramos will probably do that.
Ramos said after the game today that he doesn't know if Berbatov is staying, he also said it was up to the directors (via a spanish interpretor). Looks a strong possibility that he will be gone. Just hope the mancs don't sign him. He would offer them alot more balance.
Spurs have scored the more goals this season than any other team.41 to be precice.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 09:00 PM
In that case, neither has Torres.
Yes he has.
They're on different planets.
Eduardo and Bender do not deserve to be so high on the list, Crouch is better than Eduardo every day, the lad only scored his first Premier League goals today!!!
Bender is still very raw and should be bottom of the list.
Perhaps you are right given that neither Eduardo and Bendtner are proven in the Premiership.
Although I think Eduardo showed signs today of what I always expected - that he is a class act and unfortunately for us, a lot better than Crouch.
Yes he has.
They're on different planets.
You surprise me DJS.
I agree that Torres is a better footballer but Van Persie has been nothing less than superb for Arsenal and he has been performing well for them a lot longer than Torres has been for us.
Mattshark
29-12-07, 09:14 PM
Perhaps you are right given that neither Eduardo and Bendtner are proven in the Premiership.
Although I think Eduardo showed signs today of what I always expected - that he is a class act and unfortunately for us, a lot better than Crouch.
I think you seriously overate Defoe and Bent in that table. Kuyt for example has a prem scoring record in his first full season which is better than Defoe has managed.
Today he showed he is, as everyone new a good finisher, however, his all round play was near enough none existant.
I think you seriously overate Defoe and Bent in that table. Kuyt for example has a prem scoring record in his first full season which is better than Defoe has managed.
Fair enough. :handshake:
Today he showed he is, as everyone new a good finisher, however, his all round play was near enough none existant.
That is probably what makes him a better striker than Kuyt or Crouch.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 09:19 PM
You surprise me DJS.
I agree that Torres is a better footballer but Van Persie has been nothing less than superb for Arsenal and he has been performing well for them a lot longer than Torres has been for us.
There's a difference between the excellent levels of performance RvP has produced for them, and the out of this world stuff Torres has produced for us.
There's a difference between the excellent levels of performance RvP has produced for them, and the out of this world stuff Torres has produced for us.
:eyebrow:
Let's not get carried away now.
Mattshark
29-12-07, 09:21 PM
Fair enough. :handshake:
That is probably what makes him a better striker than Kuyt or Crouch.
Depends on how defences do against him when they are not fast asleep like Everton's after half time.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 09:28 PM
:eyebrow:
Let's not get carried away now.
15 goals in 18 starts.
Young player in a new country, new club, new culture, new team mates, doesnt speak the language...
Who else started like that? Henry? No. Drogba? No. RvN? No...
As i say, out of this world.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 09:29 PM
Depends on how defences do against him when they are not fast asleep like Everton's after half time.
And dont forget, this fella didnt come with a massive reputation or huge price tag, which sometimes means he has the luxury of being under estimated in his first season.
Same cant be said of Torres.
Ramos said after the game today that he doesn't know if Berbatov is staying, he also said it was up to the directors (via a spanish interpretor). Looks a strong possibility that he will be gone. Just hope the mancs don't sign him. He would offer them alot more balance.
You can only hope that Rafa are interested and that G&H would back him up. It would be £20m well spent.
Depends on how defences do against him when they are not fast asleep like Everton's after half time.
Quite right. He is yet to prove himself in the Premiership.
But today wasn't a bad start. They weren't easy chances and he took them expertly, like he has done his whole career.
Mattshark
29-12-07, 09:37 PM
Quite right. He is yet to prove himself in the Premiership.
But today wasn't a bad start. They weren't easy chances and he took them expertly, like he has done his whole career.
Very true, it was how he got into those situations however was amatuerish defending by Everton.
Got to wait and see how good he is at finding those positions with out the aid of none existant defending will be the real test.
15 goals in 18 starts.
Young player in a new country, new club, new culture, new team mates, doesnt speak the language...
Who else started like that? Henry? No. Drogba? No. RvN? No...
As i say, out of this world.
I'm not the one under-estimating Torres.
You're the one under-estimating Van Persie.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 09:42 PM
I'm not the one under-estimating Torres.
You're the one under-estimating Van Persie.
Has RvP scored 15 from 18 starts?
Feel free to correct me if he has.
Has RvP scored 15 from 18 starts?
Feel free to correct me if he has.
Given that Van Persie didn't begin his Arsenal career as an orthodox striker, it probably isn't a fair contest but nevertheless, Torres' record is obviously outstanding.
But I don't remember this argument being about goal scoring.
As I remember, you were saying that Torres is world class and Van Persie isn't and that they are from different planets in terms of quality.
As excellent as Torres is, I think that does Van Persie a considerable dis-service.
Given that Van Persie didn't begin his Arsenal career as an orthodox striker, it probably isn't a fair contest but nevertheless, Torres' record is obviously outstanding.
But I don't remember this argument being about goal scoring.
As I remember, you were saying that Torres is world class and Van Persie isn't and that they are from different planets in terms of quality.
As excellent as Torres is, I think that does Van Persie a considerable dis-service.
:handshake:
You can count on that Van Persie will deliver when he plays. He is a very complete striker, just like Torres, Berbatov and Drogba.
Red_Al_77
29-12-07, 09:54 PM
Alpha, it is a good comparison yet it isn't as important as it seems. You do not need a 20 plus goal striker to win the PL. In fact Manures top scorer was Ronaldo when they won and Chelsea relied heavily on Lampard's goals. Its about goals from your midfield and a few from defenders which have made the difference. So whilst you have us lagging behind in the striker department I'd say we have a bigger issue with the fact that we do rely still on Gerrard. Alonso/Masher and our wingers(loose term) need to score more regularly.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 09:56 PM
Given that Van Persie didn't begin his Arsenal career as an orthodox striker, it probably isn't a fair contest but nevertheless, Torres' record is obviously outstanding.
But I don't remember this argument being about goal scoring.
As I remember, you were saying that Torres is world class and Van Persie isn't and that they are from different planets in terms of quality.
As excellent as Torres is, I think that does Van Persie a considerable dis-service.
I'm talking about strikers who fulfil their main function, scoring goals...
I'm talking about strikers who fulfil their main function, scoring goals...
In that case, RvP has 7 goals in 13 appearances this season.
:handshake:
You can count on that Van Persie will deliver when he plays. He is a very complete striker, just like Torres, Berbatov and Drogba.
:handshake:
I didn't realise how good he was for a long time. But he's excellent.
Craig_H
29-12-07, 10:14 PM
In that case, RvP has 7 goals in 13 appearances this season.
Excellent record indeed.
Which is why he's excellent.
Torres' record is world class.
And that's why he's world class.
Good this, innit? :)
Excellent record indeed.
Which is why he's excellent.
Torres' record is world class.
And that's why he's world class.
Good this, innit? :)
Come on DJS.
If it was that simple, we wouldn't be having this argument, would we?
Black ---------------- Grey ----------------- White
anfieldanfield
29-12-07, 10:25 PM
Robin Van Persie is a fucking superb footballer. A potentially world class footballer.
Him playing just behind Torres would be mouthwatering....
JohnDoe
29-12-07, 10:25 PM
Torres is better than any Arsenal striker.
However, any Arsenal striker is more of a goal threat than anyone of our strikers other than Torres.
Arsenal's strike force is better.
anfieldanfield
29-12-07, 10:48 PM
Torres is better than any Arsenal striker.
However, any Arsenal striker is more of a goal threat than anyone of our strikers other than Torres.
Arsenal's strike force is better.
I'd go along with that....
paulcooper4
29-12-07, 10:59 PM
Despite selling Henry, they have:
Van Persie
Adebayor
Eduardo
Bendtner
and soon
Vela.
Scary compared to ours.
ours are better than them wankers
Observe the following model:
This point-based system is designed to demonstrate the comparitive qualiity of the strike forces of the Premierships top four clubs.
Of course it is subjective - feel free to do your own version.
My analysis shows that while Liverpool and Chelsea have the best strikers (one 10-pointer each), Manchester United have the best partnership (a 9 and an 8-pointer) and Arsenal have the most depth (a 9, 7, 6 and 4-pointer).
Here is the overall table:
1.) Arsenal - 26 points
2.) Man U - 22 points
3.) Chelsea - 20 points
4.) Liverpool - 18 points
That's actually one of the best posts I've seen on here. Spot the fuck on. This is why we are annual title talkers and not winniers. Our strike force is nowhere near good enough on the whole which leads us to settling for horrible draws due to poor finishing.:handshake:
In that case, neither has Torres.
He has though. He was probably the best in Spain for years. he's also done it on the International stage.
Eduardo and Bender do not deserve to be so high on the list, Crouch is better than Eduardo every day, the lad only scored his first Premier League goals today!!!Bender is still very raw and should be bottom of the list.
I'd find it tough to score myself if I wasn't on the pitch!
Shanks65
30-12-07, 12:13 PM
Ramos said after the game today that he doesn't know if Berbatov is staying, he also said it was up to the directors (via a spanish interpretor). Looks a strong possibility that he will be gone. Just hope the mancs don't sign him. He would offer them alot more balance.
Could well up being Anelka to Chelsea and Berby to Scum.
:(
Neil Young
30-12-07, 12:14 PM
Where the f*ck is Dhavlos? I was hoping he'd be around to be sick all over this Arsenal love-in. :chunks:
Shanks65
30-12-07, 12:18 PM
Could well up being Anelka to Chelsea and Berby to Scum.
:(
It sounded ok in my head, but "Berby" is possibly the gayest thing ever written on the internet.
Apologies
Where the f*ck is Dhavlos? I was hoping he'd be around to be sick all over this Arsenal love-in. :chunks:
:haha:
I love your visceral hatred of Arsenal. DJS did his best for you earlier but unlike you and Dhavlos he just doesn't care enough :D.
I think there is a good case for Arsenal having the best selection and depth in the attacking area though. However they certainly don't have the best individuals as IMO Torres, Drogba, Roonay and probably also Tevez are better than any of the players they have.
Could well up being Anelka to Chelsea and Berby to Scum.
:(
Why would Berbatov move to the Scum? He would be third choice there. The only realistic top clubs in the PL are us and Chelsea.
He would play more or less every week for us or them.
Neil Young
30-12-07, 12:37 PM
:haha:
I love your visceral hatred of Arsenal. DJS did his best for you earlier but unlike you and Dhavlos he just doesn't care enough :D.
I think there is a good case for Arsenal having the best selection and depth in the attacking area though. However they certainly don't have the best individuals as IMO Torres, Drogba, Roonay and probably also Tevez are better than any of the players they have.
:D
I can appreciate Arsenal are really good and I've got some sympathy with the view they have the best pool of strikers in terms of quality in depth.
I just find them arrogant beyond belief given they haven't won anything for a couple of years or more and that Wenger has yet to succeed in Europe after a decade of trying. I wonder if those unimaginative and hypocritical gooner fans shouted "Hoof" yesterday when their defenders were lumping the ball upfield or booed when Fabregas exaggerated the effect of Arteta's catching him in the face.
Shanks65
30-12-07, 12:44 PM
Why would Berbatov move to the Scum? He would be third choice there. The only realistic top clubs in the PL are us and Chelsea.
He would play more or less every week for us or them.
Pretty sure he'd get loads of games at Scum. He, Tevez & Roon would all get a lot of game time.
Although Berbatov would be 2nd choice for us, he'd still be "rotated" fairly often, if Rafa's rotation record is anything to go by.
Berbatov would also likely get a Premiership winners medal if he went to Scum.
He'd go to Scum in a heartbeat mate IMO
Red_Al_77
30-12-07, 12:55 PM
Berbatov is off the Chelski IMO.
Berbatov is off the Chelski IMO.
Wouldn't surprise me with Drogba off to Milan in the summer.
Red Chilli
30-12-07, 01:45 PM
Observe the following model:
This point-based system is designed to demonstrate the comparitive qualiity of the strike forces of the Premierships top four clubs.
Of course it is subjective - feel free to do your own version.
My analysis shows that while Liverpool and Chelsea have the best strikers (one 10-pointer each), Manchester United have the best partnership (a 9 and an 8-pointer) and Arsenal have the most depth (a 9, 7, 6 and 4-pointer).
Here is the overall table:
1.) Arsenal - 26 points
2.) Man U - 22 points
3.) Chelsea - 20 points
4.) Liverpool - 18 points
Disco would be proud of this post :haha:
Good post though, don't think anyone would argue we need to add some class to our strike force.
That's actually one of the best posts I've seen on here. Spot the fuck on. This is why we are annual title talkers and not winniers. Our strike force is nowhere near good enough on the whole which leads us to settling for horrible draws due to poor finishing.:handshake:
Exactly like today. torres has an off day and Kuyt has a Kuyt day. Result 0-0 in a game we TOTALLY dominated:shake:
paulcooper4
31-12-07, 11:24 AM
Exactly like today. torres has an off day and Kuyt has a Kuyt day. Result 0-0 in a game we TOTALLY dominated:shake:
what about arsenal failing to beat portsmouth? Chelsea failing to beat villa and the mancs getting beat by west ham?
Is that cos there strikers are so fuckin brilliant?:bird::whatever:
It seems like you all UNDERRATE Adebayor
It seems like you all UNDERRATE Adebayor
Really? Where does he rank on the strike-o-meter®?
I made him a 7-pointer, which I thought was fair.
CharlieMansonsSquint
31-12-07, 08:04 PM
Observe the following model:
This point-based system is designed to demonstrate the comparitive qualiity of the strike forces of the Premierships top four clubs.
Of course it is subjective - feel free to do your own version.
My analysis shows that while Liverpool and Chelsea have the best strikers (one 10-pointer each), Manchester United have the best partnership (a 9 and an 8-pointer) and Arsenal have the most depth (a 9, 7, 6 and 4-pointer).
Here is the overall table:
1.) Arsenal - 26 points
2.) Man U - 22 points
3.) Chelsea - 20 points
4.) Liverpool - 18 points
Kuyt gets 2 points?
Shouldn't it be minus 5?
Neil Young
31-12-07, 08:09 PM
Kuyt gets 2 points?
Shouldn't it be minus 5?
Will you stop it, please?
http://www.fordogtrainers.com/ProductImages/pictures/dog-muzzle/leather-dog-muzzle-basket/on-gsd-dog-muzzle/leather-dog-muzzle-basket-gsd.jpg
CharlieMansonsSquint
31-12-07, 08:12 PM
Will you stop it, please?
http://www.fordogtrainers.com/ProductImages/pictures/dog-muzzle/leather-dog-muzzle-basket/on-gsd-dog-muzzle/leather-dog-muzzle-basket-gsd.jpg
:haha:
How long until:
http://media.funlol.com/content/img/angry-demon-dog.jpg
:D
Kuyt gets 2 points?
Shouldn't it be minus 5?
Ah - the strike-o-meter® ranks strikers incrementally on a points-scale between 1 and 10. The absolute minimum a striker can score is 1 point.
If you believe Kuyt is a 1-pointer, why not try strike-o-meter® for yourself?
CharlieMansonsSquint
31-12-07, 08:22 PM
Ah - the strike-o-meter® ranks strikers incrementally on a points-scale between 1 and 10. The absolute minimum a striker can score is 1 point.
If you believe Kuyt is a 1-pointer, why not try strike-o-meter® for yourself?
I think an easier way of evaluating the respective teams strikeforces is if the situation arose where you could swap player A for player B, straight up, would you do it?
I wouldn't swap Torres for any other forward in the league.
But then I'm sure there'll be scummers who wouldn't swap Rooney for Torres, and likewise Chavs wouldn't swap Drogba for Torres.
Where we fall down is our secondary striking options. I'm pretty sure everyone would swap Kuyt for a Saha, Eduardo or Kalou.
I think that shows better than a point system that our strikers as a group are much weaker than the rest of the top clubs.
I think an easier way of evaluating the respective teams strikeforces is if the situation arose where you could swap player A for player B, straight up, would you do it?
I wouldn't swap Torres for any other forward in the league.
But then I'm sure there'll be scummers who wouldn't swap Rooney for Torres, and likewise Chavs wouldn't swap Drogba for Torres.
Where we fall down is our secondary striking options. I'm pretty sure everyone would swap Kuyt for a Saha, Eduardo or Kalou.
I think that shows better than a point system that our strikers as a group are much weaker than the rest of the top clubs.
Gotcha. :handshake:
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I'd take Torres over them all. However, United & Arsenal (and even Spurs) collectively have better forwards sadly :shake:
Despite selling Henry, they have:
Van Persie
Adebayor
Eduardo
Bendtner
and soon
Vela.
Scary compared to ours.
I have no idea about Vela however Bendtner and Eduardo are shite, how many Premier League goals have they scored between them? 1? Adebayor has been fuckingt horrendous up until this year bur he's not the type of striker you could rey on for a goal.
Van Persie is a nasty little shit but a hell of a footballer, given the choice of Arsenals of Man Utds strikeforce I would take Scum everytime
I have no idea about Vela however Bendtner and Eduardo are shite, how many Premier League goals have they scored between them? 1? Adebayor has been fuckingt horrendous up until this year bur he's not the type of striker you could rey on for a goal.
Van Persie is a nasty little shit but a hell of a footballer, given the choice of Arsenals of Man Utds strikeforce I would take Scum everytime
I realise I'm on thin ice here singing the praises of two as yet unproven premiership strikers.
But I think both Eduardo and Bendtner have shown enough at international level to be considered quality players especially when their class is so apparent. Is is apparent to me, anyway. Bearing in mind Bendtner is still a kid.
Perhaps this thread is a bit premature - Arsenal only have potentially the best strikeforce in England. I'm confident both will reach a high level though - if not with Arsenal, then with other leading European clubs.
As for Adebayor, he was class before Wenger bought him, both for club and country. It took him a year to acclimatise here but he looks fairly prolific now, wouldn't you say? I back Eduardo to do the same.
:handshake:
I realise I'm on thin ice here singing the praises of two as yet unproven premiership strikers.
But I think both Eduardo and Bendtner have shown enough at international level to be considered quality players especially when their class is so apparent. Is is apparent to me, anyway. Bearing in mind Bendtner is still a kid.
Perhaps this thread is a bit premature - Arsenal only have potentially the best strikeforce in England. I'm confident both will reach a high level though - if not with Arsenal, then with other leading European clubs.
As for Adebayor, he was class before Wenger bought him, both for club and country. It took him a year to acclimatise here but he looks fairly prolific now, wouldn't you say? I back Eduardo to do the same.
:handshake:
I think Adebayor looks class because he has acclimatized to the arsenal way of playing. Adebayor is an excellent cog in the Arsenal machine. He looks mighty effective because of the way wenger has set his team up. In any other team he will still look good because he is a good striker but not this good.
Van Persie is another story. He is a wonderful footballer and a brilliant striker who has the potential to be the best footballer in the world. He could walk into any team and still look this brilliant.
Apparently when Torres was 18 and he still had not signed a professional contract with Atletico, Arsene tried to buy him but Torres refused and signed a contract with Atletico. Thank god torres refused Arsenal as Van Persie/Torres combination has the potential to blow any defence in this league apart.
what about arsenal failing to beat portsmouth? Chelsea failing to beat villa and the mancs getting beat by west ham?
Is that cos there strikers are so fuckin brilliant?:bird::whatever:
No it's because Arsenal failed to creat any chance until the 88th minute, UTD had an off day and Chelseas defense was in dissaray.
paulcooper4
02-01-08, 06:05 PM
No it's because Arsenal failed to creat any chance until the 88th minute, UTD had an off day and Chelseas defense was in dissaray.
Yet when we dont win its cos our strikers are shit?:rash:
Yes, spot on. We don't exactly concede many do we, and we fucking miss shed loads of chances so it usually is. Statistically, we miss the most 'good' chance in the prem, year in year out. And our chances are mostly created from our midfield, Kuyt doesn't offer anything in the creative department either.
and stop using those fucking smilies!
Fact is, if we had another quality striker up there with Torres, most of those 0-0's or 1-1's would be turned into wins. No doubt.
United probably
Rooney>Van Persie
Tevez>Adebayor
Saha = Eduardo
that angolan thing<Bendtner
carheex
03-01-08, 01:18 PM
I think that of all the top teams United can claim the best pairing in Tevez and Rooney but they have little by way of variation. I think the best out and out strikers are Torres and Drogba although they are very different in style. At the minute though I think Arsenal do have the best options as you could add Walcott to your list.
I think though that they need Flamini to hold their current team together and people would be surprised at how much less impressive they would look if he was to be out for a long period.
Englands most over rated player by far. I think we've possibly got the best striker in Torres - or does he just appear to be amazing because Kuyt is his partner?
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