Do Arsenal have the strongest strikeforce in the land?

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Observe the following model:


This point-based system is designed to demonstrate the comparitive qualiity of the strike forces of the Premierships top four clubs.

Of course it is subjective - feel free to do your own version.

My analysis shows that while Liverpool and Chelsea have the best strikers (one 10-pointer each), Manchester United have the best partnership (a 9 and an 8-pointer) and Arsenal have the most depth (a 9, 7, 6 and 4-pointer).

Here is the overall table:

1.) Arsenal - 26 points
2.) Man U - 22 points
3.) Chelsea - 20 points
4.) Liverpool - 18 points

Kuyt gets 2 points?

Shouldn't it be minus 5?

[Neil Young]

Kuyt gets 2 points?

Shouldn't it be minus 5?

Will you stop it, please?

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Will you stop it, please?

How long until:

[Alpha]

Kuyt gets 2 points?

Shouldn't it be minus 5?

Ah - the strike-o-meter® ranks strikers incrementally on a points-scale between 1 and 10. The absolute minimum a striker can score is 1 point.

If you believe Kuyt is a 1-pointer, why not try strike-o-meter® for yourself?

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Ah - the strike-o-meter® ranks strikers incrementally on a points-scale between 1 and 10. The absolute minimum a striker can score is 1 point.

If you believe Kuyt is a 1-pointer, why not try strike-o-meter® for yourself?

I think an easier way of evaluating the respective teams strikeforces is if the situation arose where you could swap player A for player B, straight up, would you do it?

I wouldn't swap Torres for any other forward in the league.

But then I'm sure there'll be scummers who wouldn't swap Rooney for Torres, and likewise Chavs wouldn't swap Drogba for Torres.

Where we fall down is our secondary striking options. I'm pretty sure everyone would swap Kuyt for a Saha, Eduardo or Kalou.

I think that shows better than a point system that our strikers as a group are much weaker than the rest of the top clubs.

[Alpha]

I think an easier way of evaluating the respective teams strikeforces is if the situation arose where you could swap player A for player B, straight up, would you do it?

I wouldn't swap Torres for any other forward in the league.

But then I'm sure there'll be scummers who wouldn't swap Rooney for Torres, and likewise Chavs wouldn't swap Drogba for Torres.

Where we fall down is our secondary striking options. I'm pretty sure everyone would swap Kuyt for a Saha, Eduardo or Kalou.

I think that shows better than a point system that our strikers as a group are much weaker than the rest of the top clubs.

Gotcha.

strike-o-meter® not for you?

Then try brand new strikegrid®


+++----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
++|----1-----|----2-----|-----3-----|-----4-----|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|a|----------|----------|-----------|-----------|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|b|----------|----------|-----------|-----------|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|c|----------|----------|-----------|-----------|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|d|----------|----------|-----------|-----------|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+

+-----------+-----------+----------+--------------+
|a. Torres -|a. Drogba -|a. Rooney |a. Van Persie |
+-----------+-----------+----------+--------------+
|b. Crouch -|b. Sheva --|b. Tevez -|b. Adebayor --|
+-----------+-----------+----------+--------------+
|c. Kuyt ---|c. Kalou --|c. Saha --|c. Eduardo ---|
+-----------+-----------+----------+--------------+
|d. Voronin |d. Pizarro |d. Dong --|d. Bendtner --|
+-----------+-----------+----------+--------------+


Simply print strikegrid® and the strikers and cut the strikers into individual rectangles. Then simply place each striker into the corresponding rows on strikegrid® according to preference.

Simply view column 1 of strikegrid® to see your prefered premier league top-4 strikeforce!

[Lee]

+++----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
++|----1-----|----2-----|-----3-----|-----4-----|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|a|-Torres---|Drogba----|Tevez-----|Adebayor|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|b|-Crouch---|Sheva----|Rooney----|Van Persie|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|c|-Kuyt-----|Pizzaro----|Saha------|Eduardo|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+
|d|-Voronin--|Kalou------|Ding------|Bendtner|
+-+----------+----------+-----------+-----------+

I'd take Torres over them all. However, United & Arsenal (and even Spurs) collectively have better forwards sadly

[Gazzla]

Despite selling Henry, they have:

Van Persie
Adebayor
Eduardo
Bendtner

and soon

Vela.

Scary compared to ours.

I have no idea about Vela however Bendtner and Eduardo are ****e, how many Premier League goals have they scored between them? 1? Adebayor has been ****ingt horrendous up until this year bur he's not the type of striker you could rey on for a goal.

Van Persie is a nasty little **** but a hell of a footballer, given the choice of Arsenals of Man Utds strikeforce I would take Scum everytime

[Alpha]

I have no idea about Vela however Bendtner and Eduardo are ****e, how many Premier League goals have they scored between them? 1? Adebayor has been ****ingt horrendous up until this year bur he's not the type of striker you could rey on for a goal.

Van Persie is a nasty little **** but a hell of a footballer, given the choice of Arsenals of Man Utds strikeforce I would take Scum everytime

I realise I'm on thin ice here singing the praises of two as yet unproven premiership strikers.

But I think both Eduardo and Bendtner have shown enough at international level to be considered quality players especially when their class is so apparent. Is is apparent to me, anyway. Bearing in mind Bendtner is still a kid.

Perhaps this thread is a bit premature - Arsenal only have potentially the best strikeforce in England. I'm confident both will reach a high level though - if not with Arsenal, then with other leading European clubs.

As for Adebayor, he was class before Wenger bought him, both for club and country. It took him a year to acclimatise here but he looks fairly prolific now, wouldn't you say? I back Eduardo to do the same.

[peekay]

I realise I'm on thin ice here singing the praises of two as yet unproven premiership strikers.

But I think both Eduardo and Bendtner have shown enough at international level to be considered quality players especially when their class is so apparent. Is is apparent to me, anyway. Bearing in mind Bendtner is still a kid.

Perhaps this thread is a bit premature - Arsenal only have potentially the best strikeforce in England. I'm confident both will reach a high level though - if not with Arsenal, then with other leading European clubs.

As for Adebayor, he was class before Wenger bought him, both for club and country. It took him a year to acclimatise here but he looks fairly prolific now, wouldn't you say? I back Eduardo to do the same.

I think Adebayor looks class because he has acclimatized to the arsenal way of playing. Adebayor is an excellent cog in the Arsenal machine. He looks mighty effective because of the way wenger has set his team up. In any other team he will still look good because he is a good striker but not this good.

Van Persie is another story. He is a wonderful footballer and a brilliant striker who has the potential to be the best footballer in the world. He could walk into any team and still look this brilliant.

Apparently when Torres was 18 and he still had not signed a professional contract with Atletico, Arsene tried to buy him but Torres refused and signed a contract with Atletico. Thank god torres refused Arsenal as Van Persie/Torres combination has the potential to blow any defence in this league apart.

[Nic83]

what about arsenal failing to beat portsmouth? Chelsea failing to beat villa and the mancs getting beat by west ham?

Is that cos there strikers are so ****in brilliant?:bird::whatever:

No it's because Arsenal failed to creat any chance until the 88th minute, UTD had an off day and Chelseas defense was in dissaray.

[paulcooper4]

No it's because Arsenal failed to creat any chance until the 88th minute, UTD had an off day and Chelseas defense was in dissaray.

Yet when we dont win its cos our strikers are ****?

[Nic83]

Yes, spot on. We don't exactly concede many do we, and we ****ing miss shed loads of chances so it usually is. Statistically, we miss the most 'good' chance in the prem, year in year out. And our chances are mostly created from our midfield, Kuyt doesn't offer anything in the creative department either.

and stop using those ****ing smilies!

[Nic83]

Fact is, if we had another quality striker up there with Torres, most of those 0-0's or 1-1's would be turned into wins. No doubt.

[yukpo]

United probably

Rooney>Van Persie
Tevez>Adebayor
Saha = Eduardo
that angolan thing<Bendtner