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    Scouts at the African Nations Cup (apart from Liverpools of course)

    I just read over on the Beebs website that Liverpool don't have any scouts in Africa? Surly with the wealth of talent on display we will only live to regret this. Although it was only a survey from what I understand so maybe Liverpool just declined to comment.


    BBC SPORT NATIONS CUP SURVEY

    Clubs with scouts in Ghana:
    Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Aston Villa, Man City, Blackburn, Spurs, Newcastle, Reading, Boro, Bolton, Wigan, Fulham, Derby

    Clubs with no scouting representation:
    Liverpool, West Ham, Birmingham, Portsmouth, Sunderland

    Article -

    Three-quarters of Premier League clubs have sent scouts to the Africa Cup of Nations as the chase for the continent's finest talent intensifies.

    A BBC Sport survey has discovered 15 of the 20 clubs are scouting at the Ghana tournament despite calls for it to be switched to the summer.

    "You know when you're buying an African player that's the rule," Chelsea chief scout Frank Arnesen told BBC Sport.

    "You have to deal with that and it's a must for us to be at the Nations Cup."

    Portsmouth's Harry Redknapp, Arsene Wenger of Arsenal and Chelsea's Avram Grant are just three of the Premier League bosses to have criticised the Nations Cup's timing between January and February during the middle of the European season.

    Yet only five of the 20 clubs BBC Sport contacted said they would not be sending scouts to the tournament.

    Portsmouth do not have scouts in Ghana, but former Arsenal defender Gilles Grimandi is in Ghana for Arsenal, while Arnesen has sent two scouts to monitor the tournament.

    The likes of Redknapp, Wenger and Grant believe it should fall in line with the world's other major football competitions and be staged in the summer, when tournaments like the European Championships or the Copa America are held.

    "It's not fair for the European leagues to lose players in a period that's very important," admitted Arnesen, a former director of football at PSV Eindhoven and sporting director at Tottenham.

    But for all their moaning, clubs appear equally determined not to risk missing out on future world-class players.

    Whereas just eight Premier League players travelled to the 2002 Nations Cup in Mali, a staggering 35 made the trip to Ghana in 2008.

    "It's an exceptionally high quality tournament and there's some great, great players there," said Reading's director of football Nicky Hammond.

    "Over the last few years Africa has really come to the forefront of producing some top, top players, so for us it is a very good tournament to cover."

    "We'll be monitoring the Nations Cup very closely," said Newcastle's first-team coach Steve Round.

    "There are specific players playing in the tournament, who are also playing in Europe and domestically in England, and we will keep an eye on them, target them, get them into our radar and keep progressively looking at them over the course of the next few months."

    Arnesen insists Chelsea are already aware of every player competing and that the tournament is not a place to uncover fresh talent, rather monitor players for the future.

    But Bolton's chief scout Colin Harvey and his assistant Terry Darracott have gone to Ghana with "a blank sheet of paper".

    Middlesbrough have travelled with both specific targets - BBC Sport understands FC Zurich's Tunisian forward Yassine Chikhaoui is one - and an open mind.

    Either way, Premier League clubs seem to need little convincing of the value African players can provide and it appears the continent will be viewed as a key scouting destination for many years to come.

    "Over the past 20 years the progression of African players has been explosive," said Arnesen.

    "They're playing on the highest level and they're doing well and that's why everyone is looking at them.

    "Maybe 10 or 15 years ago you knew a few players from every team but not 11.

    "Now you go out and see Ghana, Nigeria, Ivory Coast and you know all 11 players and even the bench.

    "The Nations Cup is now on a level with the South American and European Championships."

    #2
    What benefit would there be to announce anything?

    Perhaps we have wrapped up some players already?

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      #3
      I always believe it to be difficult to really judge how good a player is when they "star" at a international tournament (Diouf and Diao!!!)
      I'm sure Rafa has been scouting players for a much longer period than just 2/3 games and will have a better idea as to how good the player is. Utd have monitored that Manucho (angolan dude) for ages and signed him well before the tournament. If they tried to get him now the price would be crazy.


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        #4
        The last two african playes we signed didnt exactly set anfield alight did they!! You dont guage players just on a junket like this, its a meaningless story.................again.

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          #5
          Originally posted by slimbimjim View Post
          What benefit would there be to announce anything?

          Perhaps we have wrapped up some players already?
          Good point, all the same in a major tournament you'd expect the top clubs to have their scouts on the look out.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Steve101 View Post
            ...You dont guage players just on a junket like this, its a meaningless story.................again.
            oh dear! I didn't realise threads & articles had to be first reviewed and cleared though steve 101...cue a meaningless comment.................again

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              #7
              Originally posted by Steve101 View Post
              The last two african playes we signed didnt exactly set anfield alight did they!! You dont guage players just on a junket like this, its a meaningless story.................again.
              I bet if scum sign an African player, he will become one of the best in the world.

              BUT

              if we buy an African player, he's a flop.

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                #8
                Surely the better African players are currently playing in Europe and have been watched during their domistic leagues.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Liverta 78 View Post
                  oh dear! I didn't realise threads & articles had to be first reviewed and cleared though steve 101...cue a meaningless comment.................again
                  Hey, I wasnt having a go at anyone here, just seems that its another little dig at the club for no reason. Wind your neck in mate.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steve101 View Post
                    Hey, I wasnt having a go at anyone here, just seems that its another little dig at the club for no reason. Wind your neck in mate.
                    Sorry mate. Bad day, picked it up wrong. Time to log off me thinks!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Liverta 78 View Post
                      Sorry mate. Bad day, picked it up wrong. Time to log off me thinks!
                      No probs mate, were all a bit tense in here at the momemt!!

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                        #12
                        It does seem very odd that we have no scouts over there for what is a major championship.

                        Its all very well saying that players often look good in tournaments only to do poorly once bought, or its only 2 or 3 games. But you could say the same about the World Cup, Euro championships or the S American version but it would be unimaginable to have no scouts at those championships.

                        To be blunt we should have a couple of scouts there.
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                          #13
                          I'd be very surprised if we didn't have people there.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by cobain View Post
                            I bet if scum sign an African player, he will become one of the best in the world.

                            BUT

                            if we buy an African player, he's a flop.

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                              #15
                              We clearly didn't have a scout at the last WC either....or they would've discovered a year in advance that Kuyt is ****e
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