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Craig_H
06-05-09, 02:40 PM
But still use terms like 'us' and 'we' when referring to those sides.
Clayton Blackmore's been on SSN news, doing this. You're not a part of Man Utd anymore, what's all this 'we' business?
Jason Cundy doing it now, with regards to Chelsea. Again, you're a radio presenter, you're nothing to do with Chelsea.
Bobby Charlton, a director at Man Utd fair enough, but still with no actual direct input into the club - he does it all the time.
Even Ray Wilkins, when he worked for Sky, would always refer to English clubs (apart from LFC), as 'we'.
Idiots, the lot of them. :rolleyes:
ELNINO 9
06-05-09, 02:41 PM
they are fans. its just like when i talk about liverpool i say us or we
Craig_H
06-05-09, 02:42 PM
they are fans. its just like when i talk about liverpool i say us or we
Yes, but we dont go on television broadcasts, posing as professional analysts, do we?
Scratch
06-05-09, 02:46 PM
Yes, but we dont go on television broadcasts, posing as professional analysts, do we?
Yeah, but if i did, i would still refer to Liverpool as "us" and "we". Pundits are fans too...would you complain if Thompson did it, or Dalglish.
Darth Marty
06-05-09, 02:47 PM
How can you include Bobby Charlton in that list? He is Mr Manchester United and definitely entitled to use "we" when referring to them.
Craig_H
06-05-09, 02:47 PM
Yeah, but if i did, i would still refer to Liverpool as "us" and "we". Pundits are fans too...would you complain if Thompson did it, or Dalglish.
I think it sounds pretty cringeworthy when people who are there as pundits & analysts do it.
i understand ur frustration - it's cause we aren't involved in europe this week, thats why i have avoided all media outlets to steer clear of the man u/chelsea love ins - but seriously i don't thinl there is much wrong here - as elnino says every football fan i know refers to their club as "we" - and i'm cetain i have heard the likes of phil thompson, ian rush even john barnes and defo john aldridge refer to liverpool as "us or "we" - but given the atmosphere this current week, and "us" not particating in Europe - i'm with you - I hate all those cunts too.
ELNINO 9
06-05-09, 02:55 PM
i dont. i like king kenny and thommo doing it. so what???? they love the club.
:haha: - I was obv (well at least i thought so) taking the piss
Can't see the problem with this at all. :confused:
Liverpool
06-05-09, 03:38 PM
After the Fulham game John Barnes said "we,,,, Liverpool have a chance"
Fair play keeping your team.
Im pretty sure Phil Thommo does it. Shows he loves the club. When I talk about LFC I saw 'we'. We're all in this together! We fans are as much a part of the team as anybody
Craig you are knit-picking now. Nowt wrong with saying we or us in that context.
Look, Alan Hansen or Mark Lawrenson never do because they provide expert analysis as neutrals, whereas Blackmore etc are invited to speak on SSN because of their direct link with the club.
Craig you are knit-picking now. Nowt wrong with saying we or us in that context.
Look, Alan Hansen or Mark Lawrenson never do because they provide expert analysis as neutrals, whereas Blackmore etc are invited to speak on SSN because of their direct link with the club.
Exactly. When we play on the box chances are they will invite a former player from each team into the studio - the point is that they want the perspective from that angle.
But still use terms like 'us' and 'we' when referring to those sides.
Clayton Blackmore's been on SSN news, doing this. You're not a part of Man Utd anymore, what's all this 'we' business?
Jason Cundy doing it now, with regards to Chelsea. Again, you're a radio presenter, you're nothing to do with Chelsea.
Bobby Charlton, a director at Man Utd fair enough, but still with no actual direct input into the club - he does it all the time.
Even Ray Wilkins, when he worked for Sky, would always refer to English clubs (apart from LFC), as 'we'.
Idiots, the lot of them. :rolleyes:
:haha: Because they are fans craig. I call Liverpool 'we' and 'us' all the time. Whether its on tv or not is irrelevant
The only thing that slightly annoys me is when someone says 'we' when referring to all english clubs in europe. thats just gay
I've got a feeling Jason Cundy still has some kind of part time role at the Chelsea academy, and does stuff for Chelsea TV, so he actually does have something to do with them :crackoff:
Craig_H
06-05-09, 04:16 PM
Maybe it's just something that irks me then, i cringe when i hear it.
And as you say V, people that do it to refer to any english club in europe, are complete ballsacks. Ray Wilkins did it all the time :cringe:
It gets on my nerves when they do it, regardless of who it is.
People like Blackmore and Cundy though...fuck's sake. You arent a part of the club anymore. If you're asked to provide analytical punditry, do it professionally.
Just my take.
Red_Polo
06-05-09, 04:22 PM
I think it sounds pretty cringeworthy when people who are there as pundits & analysts do it.
I think it's a lot better than pretending to be impartial.
Craig_H
06-05-09, 04:29 PM
I guess it depends how good they are at trying to be objective :D
Obviously most people dont mind it, and that's clearly fine. It must just be a particular gripe of mine.
I still hate it :D
Scratch
06-05-09, 04:49 PM
I guess it depends how good they are at trying to be objective :D
Obviously most people dont mind it, and that's clearly fine. It must just be a particular gripe of mine.
I still hate it :D
Yes, but to be fair, if you didn't have something to gripe about, you'd be lost. :crackoff:
Maybe it's just something that irks me then, i cringe when i hear it.
And as you say V, people that do it to refer to any english club in europe, are complete ballsacks. Ray Wilkins did it all the time :cringe:
It gets on my nerves when they do it, regardless of who it is.
People like Blackmore and Cundy though...fuck's sake. You arent a part of the club anymore. If you're asked to provide analytical punditry, do it professionally.
Just my take.
Think i heard Hoddle slagging Barca because they didn't like 'our' style of play to stop them from scoring. He was talking about Chelsea's defence last week but his comments were very general as if he was defending all english clubs in europe. I hate that punk
But Hoddle is ex-Chelsea...
But Hoddle is ex-Chelsea...
Don't let that get in the way of a good rant - hoddles a twat!
My point is that he never said chelsea, he said 'us english teams'
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