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    #46
    Originally posted by dww
    People are very unfair on Beckham. Just because the media built him up beyond football doesn't affect his playing ability.

    He has been outstanding for Real in the last few years and in the past he has been for both England and Man Utd. In the last couple of years he has failed to turn it on for England, but then neither has Gerrard very often.
    Unfortunately I'd agree with that.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      #47
      Originally posted by Harveybirdman
      Raul was not over rated mate! He was a world class player, he has gone of the boil a fair bit.....but from 98-2003 he was class!
      Fair point but he never really produced the goods for Spain.

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        #48
        Originally posted by dww
        People are very unfair on Beckham. Just because the media built him up beyond football doesn't affect his playing ability.

        He has been outstanding for Real in the last few years and in the past he has been for both England and Man Utd. In the last couple of years he has failed to turn it on for England, but then neither has Gerrard very often.
        He is a great passer/set piece taker/cross/shooter.

        After that there is nothing else in his locker.

        people go on as if he has every attribute in the book!

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          #49
          Originally posted by Nic-Flush83
          Fair point but he never really produced the goods for Spain.
          Thats a bit harsh matey....he has the spanish national record for goals scored He didnt play that well at World Cups, but he was always dynamite during qualifying.
          "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

          "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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            #50
            Originally posted by Nic-Flush83
            He is a great passer/set piece taker/cross/shooter.

            After that there is nothing else in his locker.

            people go on as if he has every attribute in the book!
            Nothing else in his locker maybe, but the assets you mention (passing, crossing, shooting and set-pieces) are a pretty handy set of attributes to have.
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              #51
              Originally posted by Nic-Flush83
              He is a great passer/set piece taker/cross/shooter.

              After that there is nothing else in his locker.

              people go on as if he has every attribute in the book!
              I would add he is a fair battler for the ball (not a great tackler).

              To be honest you have covered most of the important attributes of a player. He has flaws (can't beat a man, defensive positional sense is questionable) but he has proven over a number of years to be a top player.

              There has always been a bit of a dichotomy between the media image of an all conquering champion and most genuine football fans knowledge of the fact that he was an excellent player but noone could live up to the hype. However in recent years football fans seem to have adopted the attitude that to balance his celebrity we need to denigrate his talents.
              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
              -- William Blake

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                #52
                Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
                Nothing else in his locker maybe, but the assets you mention (passing, crossing, shooting and set-pieces) are a pretty handy set of attributes to have.
                True, but my point was the way (some) people go on about him..

                I've (believe it or not) heard some pundits actually portraying him as a good dribbler

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
                  Couldn't agree more regarding Ibrahimovic. Grossly overrated.

                  As for Rooney (sorry, I realise he's not foreign) - IMO he still remains 'potentially world class'. Until he does the business in a major final or contributes towards winning a major trophy, then he's just potential.

                  Back with the foreigners, hows this for starters...

                  Totti (the single most overrated player on the planet)
                  Camoranesi
                  Seedorf
                  Cristiano Ronaldo
                  to add to that list Patrick Kluivert.


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                    #54
                    Fernando Torres is overrated in my opinion.

                    I could however be proved totally wrong on that one!
                    Twin boys - now arriving late August 2008.

                    Its gonna be Fernando and Gerrard if I get my way!

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
                      Couldn't agree more regarding Ibrahimovic. Grossly overrated.

                      As for Rooney (sorry, I realise he's not foreign) - IMO he still remains 'potentially world class'. Until he does the business in a major final or contributes towards winning a major trophy, then he's just potential.

                      Back with the foreigners, hows this for starters...

                      Totti (the single most overrated player on the planet)
                      Camoranesi
                      Seedorf
                      Cristiano Ronaldo

                      Harsh on Ronaldo, as much as I hate the little squirt, you have to admit he is a quality player.

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