Roma vs Scum

[Johnny]

Look at the smile on the Manc fan on the left as his mate rubs his goolies.

[dww]

Bang out of order, what if some innocent utd fan gets a hiding?

As you say, that's bang out of order. Thought that LFC fans knew better bearing the scars of Heysel and Hillsborough. That's a shame and could be very detrimental to any English club participating in European competition in the future.

If it was fans of some club we had no clue about I don't think quite so many people on here would be talking like they had just got what they deserved. People are seeing things as they want them to be. It's ****ing shameful some of the **** people on here have said. There's every chance a lot of the people there tonight including some of those who were beaten fiercely by the police wanted absolutely no part in all this. Wait for the facts at least. What's right is right, Scouse, Manc, or otherwise.

[Craig_H]

If it was fans of some club we had no clue about I don't think quite so many people on here would be talking like they had just got what they deserved. People are seeing things as they want them to be. It's ****ing shameful some of the **** people on here have said. There's every chance a lot of the people there tonight including some of those who were beaten fiercely by the police wanted absolutely no part in all this. Wait for the facts at least. What's right is right, Scouse, Manc, or otherwise.

[Craig_H]

whats everyone worrying about............fredo reckons there wont be any trouble at all..............we are all fully grown adults

[Craig_H]

"Respect and dignity" is all well and good but "respect and dignity" doesn't come into it where those odious c*nts are involved.

The solution isnt to just lower ourselves to a level that we sit here slating.

[Craig_H]

I apologize, got carried away there.

What is clear is that they put themselves into a situation of their own volition, where the police could've re-acted, and they subsequently did.

The reaction from the police might've been brutal, but from the pictures I saw they were only beating those amongst the charge, they didn't purposely head into the scrum of united fans stood metres away and start swinging.

To be honest mate, there's ways of dealing with things, and that wasnt it.

Their job is to control the situation and calm it, not to fecking assault people - what ever happened to 'reasonable force' ? There's nothing reasonable about beating someone until there's blood gushing from their head. And how about that fella laying along the seats, not moving? He wasnt posing a threat in that position - why the need to constantly keep coming down with the baton? It's barbaric. That's not policing, that's thuggery.

If it had happened to our lot - charging or no charging, we'd be absolutely furious.

It was a disgrace.

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

[Craig_H]

Need to put a bit of a thick border round it, so it looks more like a DVD cover

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Police were unprovoked eh?

[Craig_H]

Police were unprovoked eh?

Dont think anyone said that, did they?

The point is though, firstly there could easily have been people who DIDNT provoke anyone, that got caught up in the violence - the police werent being uber selective about who they attacked, after all.

Secondly, there's getting control of the situation, and there's out and out thuggery.

The police took it too far. They didnt just control the situation, they outright assaulted people, when there was no need.

[Red_Polo]

Check out the woman at the bottom bricking it. And the little kid at the top right.



Once the batons move in she really is ****ting herself, unlike the 'hands up' woman in the middle who actually looks quite calm! Kid's got away from the area by the looks of it.



Bit of a guess here but the guy helping someone in the bottom left looks like the same one in the dailymotion vid linked to below the pic. Some of the reports say bottles were thrown, maybe he was hit and that's why he went to help him, presumably he wasn't in the best condition to get out of the way when the police went on their baton charge. Lol sorry just thinking out loud



The vid... http://www.dailymotion.com/Matthierr...k_crowd-fights

Is it the same guy helping?

Don't know if this is from the same group of police in the other photos but it looks like they charged quite a long way through...



There should be a proper and thorough investigation into this ****, too much has gone wrong seemingly on all sides.

[Johnny]

Dont think anyone said that, did they?

The point is though, firstly there could easily have been people who DIDNT provoke anyone, that got caught up in the violence - the police werent being uber selective about who they attacked, after all.

Secondly, there's getting control of the situation, and there's out and out thuggery.

The police took it too far. They didnt just control the situation, they outright assaulted people, when there was no need.

The Scum fans rushed the plastic barrier,Hardly unprovoked.

[Craig_H]

The Scum fans rushed the plastic barrier,Hardly unprovoked.

Where have i denied any provocation?

[Johnny]

Where have i denied any provocation?

Words,i`m not arguing against you.i`m arguing against their innocence.

[Craig_H]

Words,i`m not arguing against you.i`m arguing against their innocence.

Who's innocence?

It's all academic really, innocent or not, the manc fans were treated appallingly.

If someone's out of control, the police should exercise enough force to regain control, and that's it.

If a bloke's laying down, not moving, you dont need to keep fecking beating him, he's under your control.