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    Blades lose appeal

    Sheffield United's bid to regain their Premiership status appears to be over after their bid to see West Ham docked points was dismissed.
    An arbitration panel upheld the Premier League's decision not to dock the Hammers points over the signings of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano.

    West Ham stayed up at the Blades' expense on the final day of the season, leading to Sheffield United's appeal.

    West Ham had earlier been fined £5.5m for their handling of the duo's deals.

    The Blades had wanted the panel to order a new disciplinary commission deal with West Ham.

    The club also lost another claim - made jointly with Fulham - that the Premier League should have forced West Ham to de-register Tevez.

    A statement from the arbitration panel read: "The tribunal have found in favour of the FA Premier League on both issues and dismissed the claims of Sheffield United FC and Fulham FC."



    Like it was going to be anything other than this..
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    #2
    What a waste of time.

    Feel a bit sorry for Sheffield United, even though I hate them.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      #3
      Ridiculous decision. Ice Ham should be docked points.
      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
      (1995)
      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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        #4
        To be honest the original decision was arguably wrong and certainly the reasons given were crap but I don't think that there was really any grounds on which to make the appeal. there was no direct prescedent and the disciplinary panel was independant so I could never see the appeal going Uniteds way.

        I do feel sorry for the Sheffield fans but I think the team were not good enough to stay up and I am glad the issue of relegation was settled on the pitch.
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
        -- William Blake

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          #5
          Good. I have absolutely no sympathy for Sheff Utd.

          They weren't good enough to stay in the league. They thought they were going to piss Wigan on the last day but got done.

          Plus Warnock was hugely punchable last season.
          What have I learned, Mr Mackay? Three things. One - bide your time. Two - keep your nose clean. And three - don't let the *******s grind you down

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            #6
            Ice ham cheated and they should certainly be docked points.

            Imagine the scenario of C. Ronaldo and Rooney being inelligible to play for SCUM last season. Would people accept them being fined 5.5 million pounds but remaining Premiership champions?
            I know I wouldn't.

            In theory, a precedent has now been set so the Chavs can pick any player they want next season and go along merrily paying off 5.5 million pound fines.

            ****ing joke of a decision by a joke of an organisation. Makes a mockery of the game.
            Originally posted by Gordon Brown
            (1995)
            "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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              #7
              Ok, who in all honesty can explain the ownership rights of Tevez and Mascherano and how they apply to FA regulations? I have no idea myself. That is why this is a problem. Someone needs to write an article/ hold a press conference explaining the hows and whys so that supporters of the game understand HOW the integrity of the rules was sustained by this decision.

              I am no fan of Sheffield United, but its now how many months into this affair and I've never heard anyone explain how this deal works, who owns whom, what the exact fees are and how a transfer might happen. If its so complicated, then someone REALLY needs to explain it.
              "Our legacy begets an excellence that surpasses the particulars of who produces it." -- David Carr

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                #8
                Kia owns Tevez, 100%, West Ham only loaned him until the end of the season the last months of last season. Before then Kia could have taken him away from West Ham whenever he wanted to do that and West Ham could do nothing about it. Third party ownership.
                Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                  #9
                  How would it work out if they deducted points from West Ham only in the games were Tevez scored or played..


                  Or is that just a crap idea?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by AFII View Post
                    Kia owns Tevez, 100%, West Ham only loaned him until the end of the season the last months of last season. Before then Kia could have taken him away from West Ham whenever he wanted to do that and West Ham could do nothing about it. Third party ownership.
                    Which Ice Ham had the neck to deny to the Premier league.

                    So they cheated and then they lied about cheating.
                    Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                    (1995)
                    "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shanks007 View Post
                      How would it work out if they deducted points from West Ham only in the games were Tevez scored or played..


                      Or is that just a crap idea?
                      Scored? well not that many but they were all significant in them staying up.

                      Played? He must have played nigh on 30 league games for them.
                      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                      (1995)
                      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                        #12
                        It's a joke decision. To base a decision because you feel sorry for the fans is a complete joke. What about the Sheffield U fans then?
                        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by AFII View Post
                          It's a joke decision. To base a decision because you feel sorry for the fans is a complete joke. What about the Sheffield U fans then?
                          Correct

                          I think some of the decision was made based on the Premier league table in the last 6 games of the season. At that point Watford were down but there was a real dogfight going on between Sheff Utd, Ice Ham, Wigan, Fulham and Charlton.
                          Lots of teams had to play each other and Ice Ham were as good as down.

                          If they had deducted even 3 points from Ice Ham then, they would probably have sunk like a lead balloon. I think Sky would have had an objection to that too as it would have made many games irrelevant.
                          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                          (1995)
                          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by AFII View Post
                            Kia owns Tevez, 100%, West Ham only loaned him until the end of the season the last months of last season. Before then Kia could have taken him away from West Ham whenever he wanted to do that and West Ham could do nothing about it. Third party ownership.
                            so...
                            a) Is that legal within the rules of the FA? If so, why would Tevez be ineligible?
                            b) If it is legal, who owns Mascherano?
                            c) If Kia, then why did we pay a transfer fee to West Ham for him?

                            "Our legacy begets an excellence that surpasses the particulars of who produces it." -- David Carr

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BrooklynRed View Post
                              so...
                              a) Is that legal within the rules of the FA? If so, why would Tevez be ineligible?
                              b) If it is legal, who owns Mascherano?
                              c) If Kia, then why did we pay a transfer fee to West Ham for him?

                              a) No, it is contravening Premiership rules
                              b) Haven't got the foggiest, I think Kia Joorabchian owns him still
                              c) We didn't pay a fee, he's on loan.
                              Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                              (1995)
                              "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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