Blades to sue West Ham

[cobain]

Sheffield United are to sue West Ham for the cost of their relegation from the Premier League.

The Blades were relegated after the Premier League opted not to dock West Ham points for fielding an ineligible player in Carlos Tevez.

Sheffield United have estimated the cost of their relegation at between £30m-£50m.

The Blades claim West Ham gained an unfair advantage by signing an illicit player in Tevez.

The more this story unfolds, the more I hate those Sheffield küntz! Will they ever accept the fact that they sucked ass in the Premiership and were relegated because they can't play football? Or will they blame everyone else for it? They sound almost like Everton ffs

[Reece]

People are allowing a hatred for Warnock/Sheff United to get in the way of the real, sporting issue. End of.

And, your point is?

Was there actually a precedent set by the premier league that points should be docked? I don't think there was any thing that said this HAD to be the punishment.

[Red Chilli]

And, your point is?

Was there actually a precedent set by the premier league that points should be docked? I don't think there was any thing that said this HAD to be the punishment.

The problem would be that no team has ever got away with fielding an inelligible player for the whole season. So that's why there is no precedent.
Points have been docked before, Boro and Swindon come to mind. Swindon being the most harsh case IMO.

[Gordy Boy]

Don't you think they have a point with the Tevez case?

He was the main reason Ice Ham stayed up to be fair.

Sheff Utd blamed West Ham fielding Tevez, us fielding a weakened team, 'Warnock's old mate' Fergie not doing them a favour on the last day,the Premier League for not finding in their favour, and I'm sure I've forgotten a whole host of other people and reasons.

Any sympathy I had for their situation went right out of the window when they seemed determined to prove, at all costs, that it wasn't **** football that got them relegated. It had to be somebody else's fault.

Neil Warnock personified the whole club last year, a self opinionated **** acting up on the 'we're only a little club from the North so nobody gives a ****e about us' attitude that he did as much as anyone to create.

The Premier League did **** it up, but it doesn't mean I need to show any sympathy to a club that were/are so keen to shirk responsibility.

[Slim]

What gets me is that they didn't even make them sort it out conclusively between being found guilty and the end of the season. The whole thing stunk and then led to the frankly embarrassing farrago this summer.

Especially when a ready made solution was in front of everyone which would have made at least most people happy in a deal along the lines we had with Mascher. Even if it wasn't corruption it was certainly gross incompetence and I hope some one looses their job over it.

It was obvious to everybody that the whole thing stunk from day one. Remember when West Ham signed Mascher and Tevez? As soon as it was announced the involvement of MSI was touted around and everybody was saying the deal was dodgy, that they were going to Chelsea or Manure this season and West Ham was being used as a feeder club etc. It was suspicious from the start, but the Premier League chose not to act then, and didn't act properly later either.

The whole thing stinks.

[cobain]

Sheff Utd blamed West Ham fielding Tevez, us fielding a weakened team, 'Warnock's old mate' Fergie not doing them a favour on the last day,the Premier League for not finding in their favour, and I'm sure I've forgotten a whole host of other people and reasons.

Any sympathy I had for their situation went right out of the window when they seemed determined to prove, at all costs, that it wasn't **** football that got them relegated. It had to be somebody else's fault.

Neil Warnock personified the whole club last year, a self opinionated **** acting up on the 'we're only a little club from the North so nobody gives a ****e about us' attitude that he did as much as anyone to create.

The Premier League did **** it up, but it doesn't mean I need to show any sympathy to a club that were/are so keen to shirk responsibility.

Best post so far

[Red Chilli]

Sheff Utd blamed West Ham fielding Tevez, us fielding a weakened team, 'Warnock's old mate' Fergie not doing them a favour on the last day,the Premier League for not finding in their favour, and I'm sure I've forgotten a whole host of other people and reasons.
Any sympathy I had for their situation went right out of the window when they seemed determined to prove, at all costs, that it wasn't **** football that got them relegated. It had to be somebody else's fault.

Neil Warnock personified the whole club last year, a self opinionated **** acting up on the 'we're only a little club from the North so nobody gives a ****e about us' attitude that he did as much as anyone to create.

The Premier League did **** it up, but it doesn't mean I need to show any sympathy to a club that were/are so keen to shirk responsibility.

You see, I think you're getting mixed up with Sheff Utd FC and Neil Warnock.
It's natural for managers to shirk responsibility for failure, they ALL do it. All of them blame ref's, linesmen, the strip, opposition players cheating. All managers shirk the blame.

Sheff Utd FC has only blamed the premier league and Ice Ham. I think they have a point.

[Neil Young]

Sheff Utd blamed West Ham fielding Tevez, us fielding a weakened team, 'Warnock's old mate' Fergie not doing them a favour on the last day,the Premier League for not finding in their favour, and I'm sure I've forgotten a whole host of other people and reasons.

Any sympathy I had for their situation went right out of the window when they seemed determined to prove, at all costs, that it wasn't **** football that got them relegated. It had to be somebody else's fault.

Neil Warnock personified the whole club last year, a self opinionated **** acting up on the 'we're only a little club from the North so nobody gives a ****e about us' attitude that he did as much as anyone to create.

The Premier League did **** it up, but it doesn't mean I need to show any sympathy to a club that were/are so keen to shirk responsibility.

It wasn't their **** football that got them relegated. It was the Premier League's (or was it the FA's?) failure to sanction West Ham for fielding an ineligible player. If they had done it properly (according to precedent) then Sheffield United would have ended up with more points than West Ham.

It's not an emotional issue.

[Slim]

The problem would be that no team has ever got away with fielding an inelligible player for the whole season. So that's why there is no precedent.
Points have been docked before, Boro and Swindon come to mind. Swindon being the most harsh case IMO.

Didn't somebody get chucked out of the FA Cup last season for fielding an inelligible player? Bury was it?

[Neil Young]

Didn't somebody get chucked out of the FA Cup last season for fielding an inelligible player? Bury was it?

There was a team I think but certainly there are lots of precedents where teams have lost points or been thrown out of competitions for fielding ineligible players.

[cobain]

It wasn't their **** football that got them relegated. It was the Premier League's (or was it the FA's?) failure to sanction West Ham for fielding an ineligible player. If they had done it properly (according to precedent) then Sheffield United would have ended up with more points than West Ham.

It's not an emotional issue.

You're right. But I just hate those ****s so very much, I wish they'd be in Conference north right now

[Dhav]

If we found out that Milan fielded a player they didn't own for the Champions league final, would you let that go?

Didn't Milan basically cheat their way into the CL? Fixed matches, got docked points and only through legal recourse severely mitigating their punishment where they allowed back in to the competition?

Don't hear us moaning about that.

[dww]

It wasn't their **** football that got them relegated. It was the Premier League's (or was it the FA's?) failure to sanction West Ham for fielding an ineligible player. If they had done it properly (according to precedent) then Sheffield United would have ended up with more points than West Ham.

It's not an emotional issue.

They had a lawyer on 5Live at the time who said that the problem was that none of the precedents available were applicable for a variety of reasons. Meaning that PL got to make an entirely random judgment using an independent panel who seemingly had no idea what criteria they were supposed to use in the judgment.

[Red Chilli]

Didn't Milan basically cheat their way into the CL? Fixed matches, got docked points and only through legal recourse severely mitigating their punishment where they allowed back in to the competition?

Don't hear us moaning about that.

The reason you don't hear us moaning about that is because they didn't cheat against us. They played it fair and square. They got through group stages, knock out stages etc before facing us over 90 minutes and deservedly won the game.

If there was a sniff of suspicion that they fixed that game or cheated then I think we'd have a tiny bit of a moan. Imagine if Inzaghi was ineligible.

[Neil Young]

They had a lawyer on 5Live at the time who said that the problem was that none of the precedents available were applicable for a variety of reasons. Meaning that PL got to make an entirely random judgment using an independent panel who seemingly had no idea what criteria they were supposed to use in the judgment.

Oh OK. Mind you, lawyers will say anything.