Time for Goaline Cameras / Speedy refs

[Shanks]

Who's the ******* in the Black/Green



Never thought I'd say this but after watching the Fulham/Boro game.

The players are getting quicker/younger/stronger/wiser

The game is to fast for the referees to keep up with.

Everything in the game has changed apart from them/refs and their sidekick linesman...

Thank **** we got got rid of Poll!!

Seriously though the longer the game goes on the more we are going to be talking about the ref and the decisions he gets right and WRONG.


Goaline cameras / 50 officials anyone???


I'd love to see it stay as is but I just don't see it happening.

[Darth Marty]

Goal line cameras would be a welcome addition and i watched something earlier in pre season that said that the tech was being tested this year.
Only for goal line incidents I think though, bit like hawk eye on tennis..beeeep...goal. Simple.

[Shanks]

It really is tough one this because we dont want to take anything away from the the game but everyone seems to be getting paid more/ younger/ fitter
apart from the refs, who seem to be getting the most stick for the decisions.

I watch Match of the day and struggle to see how these guys keep up with the game.

I'm not trying to stick up for the refs but I do believe that there is more pressure/spotlight on these guys than ever before.

Something needes to change, there is too much at stake nowadays.

[bigfooty]

Linesman in general definitely need some assistance because it is often they who are the ones having to keep up with play and make the calls on tackles or offsides involving players moving at pace. For example I remember a game involving us last season when there was a blatant offside but because the lineo was a good 10-15 yards behind play he couldn't give it. It may have even been the loss to Fulham.

Today's "goal" was another example, I think it showed him on the highlights that he was well away from the goal-line when the incident happened so couldn't call it.

Goal-line technology would be good but the problem is it would be abused if it involved any kind of stopping play. It would have to be worked so it functioned by buzzing something on the ref to notify him the ball had gone all the way over the line.

[Shanks]

Linesman in general definitely need some assistance

Totally agree there fella.
The lino has a tough call, doesn't get paid anywhere near as much as Terry etc
but has to make some serious decisions, add to that the **** he gets from the stands.

[Guest]

Seen that goal and the ball clearly crossed the line. Goal line technology has to be put in practice, soon.

[AFII]

They should use two goal refs, one at each goal.

That should solve the problem until they can get in hawk eye.

[Rhys]

doesnt even have to be goal line technology just the fourth official who is already in place, having more of an input using video technology. i dont think hawk-eye or anything like that would work in football yet a quick look at as monitor to decide whether or not it was a goal would work brilliantly.

[Red Chilli]

I've never understood why football doesn't introduce a Sin-bin. It would be used for ANY dissent and ANY simulation. Soon cut those cancers out of the game.

[Resu]

I think you`ll see goalline cameras in the top leagues pretty soon. The sin-bin idea will come as well.
There is also the idea of using two refs, one in each half. the FIFA/UEFA doesn`t seem two keen on this, Ì`d like to see it tried in a youth comp or something like that

[AFII]

I've never understood why football doesn't introduce a Sin-bin. It would be used for ANY dissent and ANY simulation. Soon cut those cancers out of the game.

Probably because you would need a few more people at every game at every level working with it and the game would also need to be stopped so everyone would know the exact time of the punishment.

[Red Chilli]

Probably because you would need a few more people at every game at every level working with it and the game would also need to be stopped so everyone would know the exact time off the punishment.

I don't see why AFII. If a player is giving the ref dissent then he goes in the sin bin immediately for 10 minutes. After 10 minutes, he can come back on at the next break in play. Same goes for simulation.
A player dives for a pen, play on, at the next break in play said player is sent to the sin bin for 10 minutes and can't come back on for 10 minutes. After 10 minutes he comes back on during the next break in play. If you get sin binned less than 10 minutes before the end of the game, you don't come back on (unless extra time). If you are sin binned with less than 10 minutes of extra time left you miss the penalty shoot out. The difference between sin bin and red card is that you don't get suspended if you get sin binned.

Surely the 4th official can keep an eye on them and tell the ref when 10 minutes is up?

[hertsred]

The Premier league is already going into testing with a Hawkeye-based system. The BBC had a story in early July, it would be sound based and only for the referee, not for the TV (although how long would that last!!) I think this would be a good idea, it wouldn't slow the game up and would avoid incidents like the Fulham one.


Here's the BBC Story

The Premier League is to test a Hawk-Eye system, which will determine if a ball crosses the goal-line or not, with a view to using it in matches.
Paul Hawkins invented a system that is used for key decisions in tennis and the ball-tracking device will be tried out at Reading's academy.

Hawkins told BBC Five Live Sport: "We have a contract with the Premier League to develop a system.

"It is purely for the referees and not for television.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6281768.stm

[Resu]

Probably because you would need a few more people at every game at every level working with it and the game would also need to be stopped so everyone would know the exact time of the punishment.

This isn`t a big problem. The sin-bin would only occour when there are stops in the game anyway. Rules like the two minutes sending of works fine at many sports and levels all over the world.

[Resu]

Is the tennis system a simulation, or actual pictures/signals?