Tevez and mascherano to west ham??

[Bob]

We need total transparency in football transfers - not bitter, fair play to the hammers for pulling this off, however i don't trust agents, and with all that money sloshing about the authorities need to know everything's ligit!

[rodo]

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Spot on mate. He and Mascherano are coming to prove to Chelsea (and maybe other big clubs) they can cut in English football and adapt to the game here so that they can get a big money move to a big club, probably Chelsea, next year. I wouldn't be surprsied if Chelsea told them to go on loan to another English club so that they can be ready for us and prove they are good enough for us, especially given the interest we've had in them both. We'll be the only club who can afford them and I think both of them, certainly Tevez, are interested in playing for us long-term.
Also, remember one important thing too. West Ham are our feeder club, so it makes perfect sense!

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kooliomix3
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 10:36:59
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Haha...I cannot believe West Ham can afford them, what a a shocker.


Rorywa
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 10:42:15
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Here's a conspiracy theory. The crucial factor in West Ham signing Tevez and Mascherano is an Iranian business man by the name of kia joorabchian who owns MSI (Media Sports Investsments). MSI are the current owners of Corinthians. The money provided buy MSI allowed Corinthians to sign the Argentine duo for a previously unheard of fee in South American Football. Major Clubs, especially Chelsea have been interested in signing the duo for years. The interesting part, however, is that Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky, Roman Abramovich's former mentor, also owns part of MSI. Joorabchian himself is said to be personal friends with Abramovich. The theory is that Corinthians are actually merely a feeder club for Chelsea and Tevez's and Mascherano's move to West Ham is simply a prelude to their eventual move to Chelsea, once they have proved they can acclimatise to the English footballing environment.


Jose INC.
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 11:01:58
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If Tevez (and Mascherano as well) did not join Arsenal or Man utd but West Ham it means just one thing: the stories about Roman and Corinthians are true.
Carlitos "el Brigante" Tevez and Mascherano (as replace for Makelele) will be Chelsea players next year, and it's a great news.


Hannibal
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 11:20:54
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West Ham has been a good feeder for us .......watch out for tevez,mascherano and of course Anton ferdiand next season


Wildthing21
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 11:34:47
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How could a club like West Ham manage to lure players of their level?!


James Prescott
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 11:49:24
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Becuase they're only going there to get experience of English football so that they are ready to move to Chelsea next season. Otherwise they would have gone to Arsenal.

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Iceman
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 11:52:34
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Don't forget all that MSI tried to invest in/takeover West Ham last year but nothing ever materialised. They could well be doing something now and that Tevez and Mascherano are their first of many signings.

Two Russian billionaires running two London clubs - head to head. Abramovich and Beretosvky (spelling?) of MSI can't stand each other. Think there is going to be some massive competition between the two.



nicholasobe
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 11:56:53
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quote:
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Originally posted by James Prescott

Also, remember one important thing too. West Ham are our feeder club, so it makes perfect sense!
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That's harsh! Be nice ... they're just 'generous'


just a taste of what they think

[Diego]

especially if the agents own the players

there need to be rules about this

[dww]

I honestly think that the FA should demand that before they allow a team to register a player that the transfer details are released - at the very least to the FA if not to the public. My worry would be that if they were allowed the power to sanction moves it would be as arbitary as the decisions on work permits, but I think you are right that transparency is the key.

[kurtangle01]

They've signed permanent deals at Upton Park! Unbelievable!!!h:

[animal magic]

...Great news for West Ham that they are getting two of the world's best players. Great news on the face of it. Digging a little deeper we can form an idea of the truth.

Can we reasonably conclude that two Argentine internationals, rated at a combined value of £50m, chose to spurn moves to Bayern, AC Milan, Manchester United, Roma, Arsenal and... Chelsea in favour of the thrills and spills of Upton Park and life alongside the likes of Marlon Harewood, James Collins and Paul Konchesky? Presuming we live outside of the computed generated world of Championship Manager, the answer to that question is "NO".

There are clearly other forces at work here and the way in which these two players are owned needs to be seriously addressed by the footballing authorities. It is widely known who has vested interests in MSI, the company that owns the player's contracts, and the company that has its financial claws in Corinthians. The sad thing for Alan Pardew and West Ham is that the club, known for its strong ties to the local East London community, is being used like a pawn as Russians play around with our domestic league.

[Diego]

it's crazy mate...

i just want to know how things like these work if players are not owned by clubs but companies

[Shaggy]

Imagine how the two players feel? I'm fairly sure neither of them want to go to West Ham and would naturally prefer a move to the vermin or Arsenal. They are the pawns in this farce.

Whilst it's all very dodgy and a bit disconcerting, it's very amusing that the Mancs are up in arms about it. Their filthy fans were banking on one of or both of these two going to the Theatre of Delusions.

[Slim]

From the Guardian website:
6.15pm It gets worse: West Ham are already lining up the sale of Mascherano and Tevez. Here's a Hammers suit: "These are exciting signings for us but, of course, if we were offered major fees for the players at a later date we would have to consider it - as we would with other players."

Hmm something is rotten in the state of Cockney.

[G_Man]

I think Tevez will fail. Just a hunch.

[Slim]

Lots of other players have arrived with big reputations and failed, especially South Americans eg Veron.
Lets wait and see. This one will run and run.

[Diego]

I think Tevez will fail. Just a hunch.

read my sig

tevez

[rodo]

chelsea tv reporting that they are close to a deal involving ashley cole so maybe thats what kenyon has really been doing

[G_Man]

read my sig

tevez

What's an MVP?

Anyway, I've read it but I stick by my hunch, he won't settle, he won't get the service he deserves at West Ham and he'll bugger off back to Argentina or Spain.

[lfc4ever]

Paul Doyle and Paolo Bandini
Thursday August 31, 2006
Guardian Unlimited


WHAT'S GOING ON AT WEST HAM?

Unless Salvador Dali faked his own death in 1989 and is, in fact, living in a derelict tenement in east London as a 102-year-old West Ham fan, it's safe to say no Hammers supporter could have imagined the news that broke this afternoon, viz: that the recently-promoted minnows have upgraded from Hayden Mullins and Bobby Zamora to ... Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez!

Short of Beyoncé Knowles ditching rich and successful rapster Jay-Z to hook up with your broke, bungling Fiver, no match-up could be more shocking. After all, the Argentinian stars have for years been linked with Arsenal, the MU Rowdies, Bayern Munich, Milan and a slew of other glamorous clubs. As well as Spurs and Portsmouth. "The pair have been signed for an undisclosed fee and put pen to paper on permanent contracts this afternoon," declared the West Ham website not two minutes ago. "All other aspects of the transfers will remain confidential and undisclosed," it continued mysteriously, as the whiff of rat wafted through Fiver Towers.

So what's going on? Might the dazzling duo be cosying up to the Hammers to showcase their ability to adapt to European football, thereby jacking up the fee and wages they could command from fatter cats in year or two? Could they simply be amused by the prospect of pushing Tottenham "delusions of grandeur" Hotspur farther down the London hierarchy? Or did Kia Joorabchian sway the pair to join West Ham by speaking very highly of the club?

"Who?" we hear you ask.
"West Ham," we answer. "That hokey outfit from grassroots London."
"Not them, you clowns, this Joorabchian geezer," you retort.
"Oh, he's the Iran-born, London-based businessman who pondered taking over West Ham last year. He may have told the lads it's a lovely club. Incidentally, he runs Media Sports Investments, the company that two years ago became the main financial backers of Corinthians. It was instrumental in amazing South America by bringing Tevez from Boca Juniors to Brazil in 2004. Spanish newspaper AS has reported Roman Abramovich has a stake in his company, but Joorabchian has rubbished these claims with great vigour."

Of course the fact that the pair have not joined a club likely to challenge, say, Chelsea for domestic or European honours is obviously coincidental.

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