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    Some substance they are being given??

    After 2 heart attacks of young footballers in the last 2 days I can't help but think that with all the new 'Dietary' conditions and what not for footballers these days, could it possibly be something to do with their lifestyle or food/substance intake?

    Probably not but is there any possibility that these factors are having some sort of effect?

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    Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
    After 2 heart attacks of young footballers in the last 2 days I can't help but think that with all the new 'Dietary' conditions and what not for footballers these days, could it possibly be something to do with their lifestyle or food/substance intake?

    Probably not but is there any possibility that these factors are having dome sorf of effect?
    It could be.

    There's a classic tale of basketball stars who get a contract in the NBA. These lads are at their peak of fitness, these lads have the kind of heart that can drive a ****ing locomotive. They go out to celebrate, take some cocaine, have a massive catecholamine surge and die of a heart attack. And everyone says "how can this happen to one so fit". It's worth noting that one of the side effects of cocaine is "cardiac rupture". It can also cause fatal arrythmias.
    I'm not saying this is anything to do with the recent football cases, not at all, but football reflects society and cocaine abuse seems to be rife in todays society.

    Only a hypothesis, obviously the recent deaths are tragic and I'm not attempting to directly link the two
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      #3
      Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
      After 2 heart attacks of young footballers in the last 2 days I can't help but think that with all the new 'Dietary' conditions and what not for footballers these days, could it possibly be something to do with their lifestyle or food/substance intake?

      Probably not but is there any possibility that these factors are having some sort of effect?
      I think you hit the nail on the head. The levels of fitness are unbelievable these days and the body is really being pushed to the limits.

      Plus there are lots of supplements that are being taken that are not necessarily illegal but can have adverse affects on a body - e.g. Creatine.

      Having a heart attack in your twenties is not normal but it's happening more and more to young sportsmen.
      You can agree with me, or you can be wrong.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
        It could be.

        There's a classic tale of basketball stars who get a contract in the NBA. These lads are at their peak of fitness, these lads have the kind of heart that can drive a ****ing locomotive. They go out to celebrate, take some cocaine, have a massive catecholamine surge and die of a heart attack. And everyone says "how can this happen to one so fit". It's worth noting that one of the side effects of cocaine is "cardiac rupture". It can also cause fatal arrythmias.
        I'm not saying this is anything to do with the recent football cases, not at all, but football reflects society and cocaine abuse seems to be rife in todays society.

        Only a hypothesis, obviously the recent deaths are tragic and I'm not attempting to directly link the two
        that really did happen, to Len Bias, he was the #1 pick for the Celtics. It is the classic cautionary tale and was used as anti-drug fodder while I was growing up. He had never done coke in his life and then after he got drafted tried it once (he did a ****load in one night) and died

        i don't think it has anything to do with peurta because he had fainted twice before so there was a history of problems

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          #5
          There was this Cardiac Doctor who was the telly saying that a lot of young people don't get checked out.

          There is a very minute part of the population who can get heart attacks at a young age and this is a very different sort of heart attack to those of older men of 30 or 40, this sort of heart attack happens because the one half of the muscle or tissue(I can't remember) gets swollen and it gives trouble to breathing and circulation.

          So it has nothing to do with diets, its just unfortunate.

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            #6
            Antonio Puerta's tragic story reminds me more of Hank Gathers' story... It was a pre-existing heart condition (usually is in someone so young) that is exacerbated by top-level athletic activity. Tragic all the same...
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              #7
              Its just a few people with heart conditions but because they are footballers it is magnified.

              Look at the ratio of players that play professional football and the ones that have been affected by heart conditions
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                #8
                It is because they have heart defects.If it was diet then they would be dropping like flies.Simple as
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                  #9
                  There was some talk back in 1998 when Arsenal went on that incredible run of games to win the double, that they were being given Creatine amonsgt other things. There was a cardiovascular specialist who said it could have health implications later on particularly heart disease and such like.

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                    #10
                    I have heard that Puerta used to regularly faint so I think there was some underlying medical problem there perhaps.

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                      #11
                      Very strange that he wasn't checked out and this supposed problem he had, found. The fella on SSN said that this heart defect is easily found IF looked for.

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                        #12
                        I've nearly finished my degree in Nutrition, and I can tell you that unless Puerta had some sort of diet which was ridiculously high in SFA's and his lipid profile was through the roof, or he had a massive amount of sodium in his diet (highly unlikely), or he was an alchoholic/drug addict, it was not his diet that would be the cause of his tragic death.

                        The jury is still out on Creatine. Your body produces it naturally, and its debatable whether supplementing it in your diet actually does anything or not. Most supplements on the market are all bull****, just marketed to impressionable people who think they are some sort of magic formula to get ahead. You usually end up spending a small fortune just to piss and **** the stuff out.

                        More than likely he would have had a familial predisposition for CD or hypercholesterolaemia, high BP, or something like that.

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