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Stephen Ireland did NOT have a bereavement in his family (Today FM). Nobody died!!!Sh
According to Wikipedia he was born August 1986 which makes him 21 since last month.
I always thought he was older.
He certainly has the hairline of an older man.
****ing hell ... Born on the same month and in the same year as me and bald already? :cobainshairtouchingsmiley:
Anyway, I'd ban the ****er. You can lie in school or high-school or maybe even at work ... But ffs, lying to millions of people ... If I was his grandma, I'd make sure he's dead before my time comes
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He clearly hasn't got the hang of this lying lark.
He actually had a good reason for not wanting to play. There was no need to make something up.
What's bizarre is that they thought a dead granny would persuade Staunton and co to let him go home, but that a miscarriage wouldn't. I suppose you have to put it down to stress.
Stephen Ireland did NOT have a bereavement in his family (Today FM). Nobody died!!!Sh
His unborn child died.FFS!!!!
A 21 yr old being told by his girlfriend that his unborn first child has just miscarried can make mistakes.
If my Girlfriend rang me with that news i wouldn`t want to play a game of fecking football either.
Football is just a game.
Losing your 1st child is heartache.
Theres nothing to laugh at here FFS.
This thread should be closed.IMHO.
Stephen Ireland did NOT have a bereavement in his family (Today FM). Nobody died!!!Sh
His unborn child died.FFS!!!!
A 21 yr old being told by his girlfriend that his unborn first child has just miscarried can make mistakes.
If my Girlfriend rang me with that news i wouldn`t want to play a game of fecking football either.
Football is just a game. Losing your 1st child is heartache.
Theres nothing to laugh at here FFS.
This thread should be closed.IMHO.
Get ready to move this debate to the Library....
IT'S NOT A CHILD UNTIL IT'S BORN, IT WAS A FETUS. THERE IS NO BEREAVEMENT
He ****ed up big time. The FAI hired a private jet for him for christ sakes, all on the belief that he lost his grandmother. Whether they would have hired it for him if they knew that his girlfriend had issues reproducing is irrelevant.
He had the choice to tell everyone concerned what really happened when it happened, and IF IT HAPPENED. Lying twice about your grandmothers dying, and getting caught both times does not make me believe that she had even conceived to begin with. I believe it isa coverup for something else, it just doesn't add up.
He was a ****, and for that should be handed a team suspension. But it won't happen.
IT'S NOT A CHILD UNTIL IT'S BORN, IT WAS A FETUS. THERE IS NO BEREAVEMENT
He ****ed up big time. The FAI hired a private jet for him for christ sakes, all on the belief that he lost his grandmother. Whether they would have hired it for him if they knew that his girlfriend had issues reproducing is irrelevant.
He had the choice to tell everyone concerned what really happened when it happened, and IF IT HAPPENED. Lying twice about your grandmothers dying, and getting caught both times does not make me believe that she had even conceived to begin with. I believe it isa coverup for something else, it just doesn't add up.
He was a ****, and for that should be handed a team suspension. But it won't happen.
My original post stands.
What we expect from 21 yr old footballers is 10 times more than we expect from normal 21 yr olds.
The unborn fetus argument i`ll leave for another day.
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