Sundays matches

[Craig_H]

i dont agree. there was contact, but contact doesnt mean pen. but thats another debate. that was **** and sahas dive was bloody silly

Kicking someone's shin is a foul mate.

[sambirken]

maybe i saw a bad angle but i dont think the 'kick' would have put saha off stride. he saw the leg coming and jumped up in the air like a right dickhead

[JimmytheJalopy]

Saha seemed desperate to score and ended up doing a silly little flounder after having his shin kicked. Foul, but he looked stupid.

[Craig_H]

maybe i saw a bad angle but i dont think the 'kick' would have put saha off stride. he saw the leg coming and jumped up in the air like a right dickhead

Surely whether it puts him off stride or not, kicking someone in the shin is still a foul??

[JohnDoe]

What the hell? I was certain I wrote Saha there, funny that.

[NICKZS]

Surely whether it puts him off stride or not, kicking someone in the shin is still a foul??

If the rules were observed in that way then there would be 10 penalties a game. Football is a contact sport and penalties should be awarded at the descretion of the referee depending on whether the "foul" had intent, warranted a penalty etc. Clearly some people think, as I do, that the situation was tantamount to simulation, which is the main aspect here. Not whether he was 'kicked' (or brushed, as the replay seems to suggest). Full stop = it was a dive. Penalty or not.

[Craig_H]

If the rules were observed in that way then there would be 10 penalties a game. Football is a contact sport and penalties should be awarded at the descretion of the referee depending on whether the "foul" had intent, warranted a penalty etc. Clearly some people think, as I do, that the situation was tantamount to simulation, which is the main aspect here. Not whether he was 'kicked' (or brushed, as the replay seems to suggest). Full stop = it was a dive. Penalty or not.

Sorry, but without being a mindreader, how is the ref able to decide on intent?

And if you think a player gets booted in the shin 10 times per game, you're probably watching the wrong kinda ball game.

[NICKZS]

Sorry, but without being a mindreader, how is the ref able to decide on intent?

And if you think a player gets booted in the shin 10 times per game, you're probably watching the wrong kinda ball game.

He got a touch on the shin and jumped up like he'd just stood on a piece of glass. Sensationalising what was an innocuous incident is not going to make it carry any more weight.

As for quantifying intent, that is a referee's job isn't it? You don't have to be a mindreader to see whether somebody meant something or not. In any case, it's not worth going over this time and time again. Opinion is divided clearly.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Don't think there was contact. Even if there was minimal contact, Evra made a huge deal out of it.

****ing hate him.

Yet another diving cheating whinging French ****.

And no, I don't read The Daily Mail.

[Jayesh87]

What a class reception Joaquin got then

Did anyone hear the comms when he was talkin about Sobis and how he was a wonderkid on a 'certain computer game'

[Helios Creed]

What the hell? I was certain I wrote Saha there, funny that.

Whatevra...

[JimmytheJalopy]

Whatevra...

Oh dear

[thesilverfoxlfc]

How ignorant was Grant today after the match and not shake any hands until Carlos and Fergie chased him for a handshake.

I dont like the look of him at all

[Lee]

How ignorant was Grant today after the match and not shake any hands until Carlos and Fergie chased him for a handshake.

I dont like the look of him at all

Yup, commented on that with me housemate. Grant looks like a real horrible piece of work.

I mean, Mourinho was a ****, but at least he was a likeable ****. This Grant fella just looks like a miserable ****.

People say the Eriksson show's no emotion, but this fella takes it to the extreme. Just stood there the whole match giving everyone the daggers.

[Joe King]

Reminds me of this man