Staunton sacked by Ireland

[Parm]

no surprise here

[Radar]

Rafa for the job

[Joe King]

Roy Keane put himself out of the race. Mardy feck.

[Maestro]

Has Staunton really done such a bad job or has he not had the players at his disposal that previous managers had?

I've not seen too much or Ireland but it seems that there isn't the quality players that Ireland previously had playing for them.

Staunton has really done such a bad job.

[Ritchi3]

Staunton had pretty much the same players as Brian Kerr yet Kerr won 20% more matches than him

Huh? No he hasn't. He's also given 19 players(or was it 15) their first cap for their country, including players like Doyle, Hunt and McShane who are now regulars in the first team.

He hasn't done as bad as most say, but then again, neither had Kerr and he was hounded out too. I fear for the next manager when he takes over the team of average players.

[johnp]

Stapelton, Eoin Hand and the lad who used to be the Chief Exec of the FAI were on Primetime last night.
Stapelton and Hand rambled on about days of yore, but both made good points in that expectation of Irish fans is way too high. Stapelton mentioned that a lot of fans are probably only used to us going to WCs and ECs, well we don't always get there but always in contention.
The ex Chief Exec said that Ireland should be looking to give a good showing of ourselves. Granted Stautnon didn't do this, but still we shouldn't be expecting to win big tournaments.

Twas funny when Miriam introduced him as "the man who used to be John Delaney".
He replied with "I was never John Delaney"

[dww]

Huh? No he hasn't. He's also given 19 players(or was it 15) their first cap for their country, including players like Doyle, Hunt and McShane who are now regulars in the first team.

He hasn't done as bad as most say, but then again, neither had Kerr and he was hounded out too. I fear for the next manager when he takes over the team of average players.

I think Staunton should be measured against a yardstick like Toshack who was doing a similar job of refreshing an older if reasonably successful squad. Looked at it like that he hasn't done such a bad job considering he is a rookie.

When he was handed a long term contract there was an implicit acceptance that great success was unlikely and the best thing to do was to build for the future. It seems somewhat lacking in balls to then sack the manager after such a short period of time (especially given that his 'mentor' was unable to help him for large periods of time).

I'm not sure Staunton was ever the right choice but once you have made it with the intentions I described I think you have to back it for longer than has been done in this instance.

[Ritchi3]

I think Staunton should be measured against a yardstick like Toshack who was doing a similar job of refreshing an older if reasonably successful squad. Looked at it like that he hasn't done such a bad job considering he is a rookie.

When he was handed a long term contract there was an implicit acceptance that great success was unlikely and the best thing to do was to build for the future. It seems somewhat lacking in balls to then sack the manager after such a short period of time (especially given that his 'mentor' was unable to help him for large periods of time).

I'm not sure Staunton was ever the right choice but once you have made it with the intentions I described I think you have to back it for longer than has been done in this instance.

I don't think he was the right choice either, but to sack him now is very short sighted, considering the expense it will cost, the lack of an obviously better replacement, the good ground work achieved and the disruption to the players. The decision is understandable given the media pressure. But I'm not sure it was the right one. We'll probably be in the same situation in two years time again.

[Los Rojos]

I think Staunton should be measured against a yardstick like Toshack who was doing a similar job of refreshing an older if reasonably successful squad. Looked at it like that he hasn't done such a bad job considering he is a rookie.

I don't think anyone is really surprised that Staunton got the sack and I'm not sure you can compare the Irish and Welsh jobs. There appears to be far more strength in depth in the Republic than we have in Wales.

I'd consider Wales and Northern Ireland to be a fairer comparison and on recent performances this would suggest that the Northern Irish under Sanchez were overperforming while Wales, on the other hand were far too inconsistent (for example, we took 4 points off Sanchez's team in the WC qualifiers) and continue to be so.

I think Toshack's position will be looked at in the near future but I can't see that there is a realistic alternative out there at present.

[Dalglish]

[johnp]

There's a ball in the pic on the right.
One of the guys in the right hand pic is holding a hat.
They're wearing different coloured tracksuits.


Leave it with me, I'll see if I can spot anything else

[dww]

I think you are right that Ireland have some better quality players (particularly in defence) but my point was more that when you are looking to extensively overhaul a squad by bringing in new players results suffer. I was using Toshack as a comparison for this reason and the fact I would have thought that his experience as manager may have made this an easier task for him than it is for Staunton.

Obviously over time you would hope that Staunton would get better results with the players he has compared to Wales due to the superior players at his disposal. However I think you have to give a rebuilding exercise at the very minimum two years in the circumstances. My point was really that if you set an inexperienced manager up in a situation like that then you have to give him time to learn and to grow with the players.

[bazza76]

I have never seen Staunton so happy, how could someone who has just been sacked from their job be so happy. He had a grin lick a Cheshire cat walking into the meeting. nice little pay off he got there.

[Nic83]

Has Staunton really done such a bad job or has he not had the players at his disposal that previous managers had?

I've not seen too much or Ireland but it seems that there isn't the quality players that Ireland previously had playing for them.

Both.

It was mainly Stan's team selection though. He picked bad starting line-ups and played players in the wrong positions and CONTINUED to do it. He didn't learn a thing in 2 years.

Also, he isn't the type of man to instill confidence into a national side IMO. He needed more experience to be taken really seriously.

It was a terrible appointment from day one. The FAI are to blame really.

[Nic83]

Jose Mourinho for Ireland