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    #31
    Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
    Joke teams that are the current European Champions and have qualifed top of their group. I can't see which of the other second seeded teams are better.
    They played 6 games to win euro 2004...big deal.

    They're not a top-level side, and no amount of rhetoric will change that.

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      #32
      Originally posted by desertscouser View Post
      Italy and Greece's groups are an absolute joke. Farcical draws.
      At least Italy's group contains a proper footballing force.

      The greece group is a proper joke.

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        #33
        Originally posted by desertscouser View Post
        Italy and Greece's groups are an absolute joke. Farcical draws.
        Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. I think I'm heading home.

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          #34
          Originally posted by DJS View Post
          They played 6 games to win euro 2004...big deal.

          They're not a top-level side, and no amount of rhetoric will change that.
          I can't see why ther're not one of the best nine sides in Europe. Who exactly is better than them?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
            I can't see why ther're not one of the best nine sides in Europe. Who exactly is better than them?
            England??

            A humble guy with healthy desire.

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Erectile Banana View Post
              England??

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                #37
                Originally posted by DJS View Post
                They played 6 games to win euro 2004...big deal.

                They're not a top-level side, and no amount of rhetoric will change that.
                You make it sound like no team can transition to the top tier.
                Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. I think I'm heading home.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DJS View Post
                  Yeah, that's what happens when joke teams like Greece get seeded 1st...


                  Yes, joke teams of the like who are the reigning European champions and qualified for this tournament at a canter with games to spare, unlike some teams I could mention :whatever:
                  White liquid in a bottle = Milk

                  Purslow = C*nt

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
                    I can't see why ther're not one of the best nine sides in Europe. Who exactly is better than them?
                    So Greece are better than two of Holland, Italy and France, are they?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by johnp View Post
                      You make it sound like no team can transition to the top tier.
                      Of course they can do, but it needs a consistent level of performance to justify a place in the top tier. Not one tournement.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post


                        Yes, joke teams of the like who are the reigning European champions and qualified for this tournament at a canter with games to spare, unlike some teams I could mention :whatever:
                        And again, back to england...who i didnt even mention.

                        Whichever way you dress it up, greece arent better than Italy, France, Holland, Germany, Spain or Portugal.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by DJS View Post
                          And again, back to england...who i didnt even mention.

                          Whichever way you dress it up, greece arent better than Italy, France, Holland, Germany, Spain or Portugal.
                          Hmm. Greece finished above Spain in Euro 2004 qualifying, knocked them out at the group stages of the tournament, knocked out France (the reigning Euro champions at the time) in the quarters, and beat Portugal twice to win the competition.

                          I'm not arguing that Greece are better than any of those teams, but I am trying to put your comments (or should I call them assumptions, because I'm willing to bet you've seen very little of Greece in the last couple of years) in some kind of context.

                          You complain that the draw is ridiculous because "joke teams like Greece" are one of the top 9 seeds. But they are there on merit. You tell me which of the 9 second seeds (Sweden, Israel, Poland, russia, Turkey, England, Romania,Bulgaria, Scotland) deserve to be seeded above Greece? Because I don't think any of them deserve to
                          White liquid in a bottle = Milk

                          Purslow = C*nt

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by tommyg View Post
                            Group 1 is the toughest
                            You might be proven right. Hungary & Albania are improving. Portugal is one of the best in Europe & the 2 Skando teams are tough to beat as well.
                            This is going to be a good group to watch.
                            Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Elmander, Tomasson, Agger & Gera among the best players in Europe.
                            18-5-7-8-3

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by DJS View Post
                              So Greece are better than two of Holland, Italy and France, are they?
                              I thought we were talking about the World Cup? All of them are top seeds aren't they? Which of the second seeds are better than Greece?

                              Greece deserve to be top seeds in the Euros, as they won the thing. Only an idiot would argue otherwise. It's the same for every single tournament in football.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
                                I thought we were talking about the World Cup? All of them are top seeds aren't they? Which of the second seeds are better than Greece?

                                Greece deserve to be top seeds in the Euros, as they won the thing. Only an idiot would argue otherwise. It's the same for every single tournament in football.
                                Is that why Italy have to qualify for South Africa 2010 then, is it?

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