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    The horror tackles are back and must be stamped out!

    X-rated at United, Arsenal, West Ham, Liverpool and Spurs: The horror tackles are back and must be stamped out!
    00:23am 8th December 2007

    The No 1 priority for referees at any level of football is the safety of the players.

    The top managers have highlighted the need for better protection and half of the examples cited have been committed on Arsenal and Manchester United players.

    Alexander Hleb, the recipient of two of my examples, missed Arsenal's midweek trip to Newcastle as a result of the John Carew challenge last weekend.

    Last Saturday, West Ham went out far too strongly in the first 20 minutes against Chelsea with a clear intention to unsettle a superior team.

    The game was prefixed by Alan Curbishley complaining that the top teams are being afforded better protection. Was this his way of trying to influence the referee, Howard Webb, into allowing more tackles? It appeared that he got his wish, but no points.

    Referees are often too concerned with how they can 'sell' a decision. The tenet within match officials is to err on the side of caution. That has to stop and officials must work viewing angles to detect these tackles and then deal with them strongly.

    A red card for serious foul play is probably the hardest decision a referee has to make. However, with the trend in the Barclays Premier League so far this season, referees will have to improve detection rates, especially in the light of the laws preventing the FA from taking retrospective action, even with compelling video evidence.

    WHO MAKES THESE TACKLES?

    Comments referring to a player 'not being that sort of person' are spurious and damaging. All too often the worst tackles are made by players who certainly did not mean to make them.

    They are often called 'forwards' tackles' and made by players who cannot tackle. That is irrelevant as all players must be treated equally. Some are made by players who are seeking retribution for an earlier foul they have suffered. A good referee should find this type easier to detect.

    The UEFA guidelines are clear and specific and are reinforced to referees twice a year. They remind referees that they need to take into consideration:
    The element of intent or malice.
    The speed of the player's action — the intensity of the challenge.
    The tackler's chance of playing the ball.
    The tackler endangering the safety of the opponent.

    It is the final point which is stressed as there is a need to eliminate challenges where a player gives no consideration to the safety of an opponent. A player who commits himself to a challenge, who is unable to pull out of it, out of control and does so at speed, has no thought for the possible consequences and safety of his 'victim'.

    This is why the two-footed challenge is seen as the worst example. The all-too-often-heard shout from players, 'He got the ball, ref ', is irrelevant if he also makes contact with the opponent.

    Finally, any challenge which is made with excessive force must endanger the safety of an opponent and be identified as serious foul play and result in a red card. Any challenge made with brutality must also result in dismissal.

    HOW CAN THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION HELP?

    The FA are powerless to act on serious foul play offences unless a referee dismisses the offender, as FIFA have insisted that in all matters where the referee sees an incident his decision must be final. This does seem ludicrous when TV evidence clearly shows some disgraceful challenges, deserving of severe punishment.

    Although the red card which Phil Dowd issued to Tottenham's Robbie Keane on Sunday against Birmingham was harsh, it has certainly highlighted the issue of the increasing trend of excessive tackling which must be addressed by our referees before someone's career is ended prematurely.

    One final thought to those who say that the rule-makers are trying to make football a non-contact sport. The UEFA advice regarding serious foul play tackles concludes by reminding referees that they must allow hard/fair challenges and only punish unfair actions.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv..._author_id=482
    Just believe and you never know what will happen.

    According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

    #2
    They are certainly correct about the spurious 'he's not that sort of player defense' - one of the more irritating defenses of any action. He bloody obviously is the sort I've just seen the evidence and then a manager comes on and says that - it really pisses me off. He may not be a violent person in general but that doesn't mean that he should go unpunished when he is violent.

    Bergkamp used to be the worst for this - always defended despite every other season blatantly elbowing someone in the face and rarely getting even a yellow card.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #3
      Originally posted by dww View Post
      Bergkamp used to be the worst for this - always defended despite every other season blatantly elbowing someone in the face and rarely getting even a yellow card.
      Hear hear

      Although I admired Bergkamp for his skill and class, I ****ing hated him for beating and elbowing players on the pitch.
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        #4
        The problem is that the players know that they are getting away with it so they can make a very dangerous tackle against for example Torres or Gerrard and in nine times out of ten get away with a yellow card, not a red.

        The refs should start to think more about the long time fitness of the players than if they decide a game when they send someone off.

        A tackle from behind should always be at least a yellow card, not as it's now, maybe a yellow.

        A tackle with your studs up should always be at least a yellow card, not as it's now, maybe a yellow.

        That is two things that the refs must start to do.

        I would rather see the star players on the pitch instead of in the stands, injured.

        How a ref for example even can think about giving a yellow card to Diouf after his tackle on Arbeloa shows how ****, and mean absolute ****, the refs are in the PL.

        He isn't the only ref that let tackles like that go almost unpunished, all of them do it.
        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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          #5
          Its a mans game, at least it used to be anyway....

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            #6
            Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
            Its a mans game, at least it used to be anyway....
            It's not a mans game anymore, so I agree with you.

            Now it's more a game when the cowards are getting away with it.
            Just believe and you never know what will happen.

            According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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              #7
              England will NEVER be able to challenge with the national team as long as the players are allowed to get away with very dangerous tackles.

              Maybe the FA should think more about that instead of who should be the next England manager.

              The main reason to why England don't have more skillful players are that they can't train enough on their skill from an early age. Instead of training their skill they must train their physic to able to cope with the dangerous tackles they will get or they will get injured.

              Not even Rooney can cope with the punishment he gets and he is built like a tank.
              Just believe and you never know what will happen.

              According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                #8
                Originally posted by AFII View Post
                England will NEVER be able to challenge with the national team as long as the players are allowed to get away with very dangerous tackles.

                Maybe the FA should think more about that instead of who should be the next England manager.

                The main reason to why England don't have more skillful players are that they can't train enough on their skill from an early age. Instead of training their skill they must train their physic to able to cope with the dangerous tackles they will get or they will get injured.

                Not even Rooney can cope with the punishment he gets and he is built like a tank.
                nah mate he's just fat

                i think they should change the rules so that they could upgrade yellow cards to reds like dioufs tackle on Arbeloa. stupid that it stays yellow because they don't want to undermine the refs authority, he got it wrong deal with it...
                "I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Diego View Post
                  nah mate he's just fat

                  i think they should change the rules so that they could upgrade yellow cards to reds like dioufs tackle on Arbeloa. stupid that it stays yellow because they don't want to undermine the refs authority, he got it wrong deal with it...
                  Did I imagine it or did uefa say they were looking at this.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by AFII View Post
                    England will NEVER be able to challenge with the national team as long as the players are allowed to get away with very dangerous tackles.

                    Maybe the FA should think more about that instead of who should be the next England manager.

                    The main reason to why England don't have more skillful players are that they can't train enough on their skill from an early age. Instead of training their skill they must train their physic to able to cope with the dangerous tackles they will get or they will get injured.

                    Not even Rooney can cope with the punishment he gets and he is built like a tank.
                    i think that's an interesting argument - england players and english football seems to sacrifice technical ability for athleticism. doesn't make for a succesful international team. you really have to play your way out of trouble in international matches - not just throw the ****in head and start hoofin the ball.
                    Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by badpiggy View Post
                      i think that's an interesting argument - england players and english football seems to sacrifice technical ability for athleticism. doesn't make for a succesful international team. you really have to play your way out of trouble in international matches - not just throw the ****in head and start hoofin the ball.
                      But foreign players even those who come here at a very young age seem to retain and often improve their abilities to play out under pressure when they come (if they are good enough in the first place).

                      It may well be though I suppose that refereeing standards/styles at the top both reflect and trickle down to younger age groups. I think this is where a change is key, along with a change in the 'it is/was a mans game' attitude at least when the players are still boys (I like to see good tackles and I would hate to see football become non-contact).
                      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                      -- William Blake

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dww View Post
                        But foreign players even those who come here at a very young age seem to retain and often improve their abilities to play out under pressure when they come (if they are good enough in the first place).

                        It may well be though I suppose that refereeing standards/styles at the top both reflect and trickle down to younger age groups. I think this is where a change is key, along with a change in the 'it is/was a mans game' attitude at least when the players are still boys (I like to see good tackles and I would hate to see football become non-contact).
                        garcia was a good example of this
                        Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dww View Post
                          But foreign players even those who come here at a very young age seem to retain and often improve their abilities to play out under pressure when they come (if they are good enough in the first place).

                          It may well be though I suppose that refereeing standards/styles at the top both reflect and trickle down to younger age groups. I think this is where a change is key, along with a change in the 'it is/was a mans game' attitude at least when the players are still boys (I like to see good tackles and I would hate to see football become non-contact).


                          The difference is that a player like Garcia already have trained up his skill from a very early age so he can adapt and train up his physic later.

                          It's a lot more difficult to train up your skill when you are 16, 17 or 18 years old for example. You should have done that much earlier.
                          Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                          According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                            #14
                            Why wait until Christmas for the usual DVD.

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