Eric Cantona

[Guest]

dont be ridiculous. everyone knows football began in august 1993

Yes I said that .... Take pieces here and there and make what you want.

See this line ?

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[enema of the state]

Yes I said that .... Take pieces here and there and make what you want.

See this line ?

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get over yourself mate

stop trying to tell the world black is white and admit zidane was a better footballer than cantona by every conceiveable parameter (other than in assaulting spectators which is hardly the prime requisite is it? :whatever

[enema of the state]

Yes I said that

oh, i forgot to say, well done for that

[Guest]

get over yourself mate

stop trying to tell the world black is white and admit zidane was a better footballer than cantona by every conceiveable parameter (other than in assaulting spectators which is hardly the prime requisite is it? :whatever

He was a manc, so I guess that your opinion is level headed.

I was talking about football, not about anything else. :whatever:

[enema of the state]

He was a manc, so I guess that your opinion is level headed. :

you are correct. my opinion is entirely objective

I was talking about football, not about anything else. :whatever:

you were talking total shyte, not anything else

[Guest]

you are correct. my opinion is entirely objective



you were talking total shyte, not anything else

Clearly, you're a WUM. Go back to your shell.

[enema of the state]

Clearly, you're a WUM. Go back to your shell.

[dww]

I am playing devil's advocate here, but there is a massive parallel in this discussion between Cantona and our own John Barnes.

Different types of player, of course, but we absolutely idolise Digger, but he never made it on the world scene.

Is it fair to say that if Cantona wasn't world class then nor was digger?

My point isn't to open the discussion into was-Barnsey-world-class-or-not. It is purely to try to contextualise the Utd fans view of Cantona.

It's a very interesting point. I think using the term world class is always a problem in these discussions.

IMO Cantona was the perfect player for United at that time. He was probably capable of more than he showed in Europe but he was less exceptional in his style and technique in that environment than he was in the PL of the time. I think part of the problem was that the United team around him failed to take the pressure off him in Europe - expecting him to be able to do what he did for them in the league.

In the end you can only judge people on what they actually produce, everything else is speculation.

Fredo, in a purely subjective but well backed with strong circumstantial evidence of actual achievement way, you are more than wrong about the Zidane/Cantona comparison.

[Guest]

Fredo, in a purely subjective but well backed with strong circumstantial evidence of actual achievement way, you are more than wrong about the Zidane/Cantona comparison.

Zidane won European Cups and World cups, on that alone I won't dispute that fact.

But that doesn't make my point as being ****e, as it's a purely subjective thing. I see more genius in the way Cantona played, rather than the pure technical brilliance of Zidane. His technique made it look easy.

Cantona, for his part was an instinctive genius, who could do anything. He had pace, technique, creative genius and goalscoring touch. But I guess, his flawed character hampered his capabilities on the whole. That is why he never played for France (after criticizing the FFF) and got in arguments with many France journos, who didn't like him. He was more at ease with the English press.

Cantona at his best vs Zidane at his best, there isn't much between them, IMO but Zidane was more consistent and backed that talent with World and European cups. On that alone I won't be able to back my case.

But I know who I prefer, as a footballer and as a character. You never knew what to expect with Cantona.

[Red_Polo]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x108tl_zidane-vs-cantona_fun

[Tee]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10...vs-cantona_fun

Zidane clearly wins - look at the health bar LOL

[Guest]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10...vs-cantona_fun

[tomasjj]

Case closed...

[Alpha]

Zidane won European Cups and World cups, on that alone I won't dispute that fact.

But that doesn't make my point as being ****e, as it's a purely subjective thing. I see more genius in the way Cantona played, rather than the pure technical brilliance of Zidane. His technique made it look easy.

Cantona, for his part was an instinctive genius, who could do anything. He had pace, technique, creative genius and goalscoring touch. But I guess, his flawed character hampered his capabilities on the whole. That is why he never played for France (after criticizing the FFF) and got in arguments with many France journos, who didn't like him. He was more at ease with the English press.

Cantona at his best vs Zidane at his best, there isn't much between them, IMO but Zidane was more consistent and backed that talent with World and European cups. On that alone I won't be able to back my case.

But I know who I prefer, as a footballer and as a character. You never knew what to expect with Cantona.

You are the most confused person I've ever encountered.

[Guest]

You are the most confused person I've ever encountered.

You meant confusing, as I'm in harmony with myself.

Anyway, please care to explain why ?