Joey Barton nicked again

[spud_gun]

**** of the highest order. A spell in the pokey hopefully awaits.

I remember when big Duncan Ferguson was rampaging around Stirling taxi ranks battering people on crutches.

A spell in Bar L soon sorted him out.

[rushscored4]

Reassuring to see it's the old rule that if it's in the papers it must be true. No smoke without fire, eh? Like those Scousers in 1989. Must have been bunking in without tickets because the papers said so and they've done it before...

[Bender]

Newcastle and England midfielder Joey Barton has been charged with assault.

The footballer was arrested along with Andrew Barton, 19, and 27-year-old Nadine Wilson on Church Street in Liverpool city centre on Thursday.

Joey Barton and Ms Wilson are charged with common assault and affray. Andrew Barton is charged with affray and assault occasioning actual body harm.

Ms Wilson, of Huyton, and Andrew Barton, from Widnes, have both been bailed. The player remains in custody.

All three are due to appear at Liverpool City Magistrates Court on Friday.

[Kenneth]

Reassuring to see it's the old rule that if it's in the papers it must be true. No smoke without fire, eh? Like those Scousers in 1989. Must have been bunking in without tickets because the papers said so and they've done it before...

:whatever:

Whether he's guilty or not is one thing, but are you seriously suggesting he hasn't been arrested and charged with assault?

[rushscored4]

:whatever: Whether he's guilty or not is one thing, but are you seriously suggesting he hasn't been arrested and charged with assault?

He may well have been arrested and charged. He could well be guilty. My comments were aimed at the many people in this thread who had already made their minds up that he IS guilty because it's in the papers and because he has 'history'.

As far as I'm aware, this country still has a policy of someone being innocent until proven guilty - not the other way round.

And if you want to be childish, have this back: :whatever:

[Kenneth]

He may well have been arrested and charged. He could well be guilty. My comments were aimed at the many people in this thread who had already made their minds up that he IS guilty because it's in the papers and because he has 'history'.

As far as I'm aware, this country still has a policy of someone being innocent until proven guilty - not the other way round.

And if you want to be childish, have this back: :whatever:

So the reference to Hillsborough was irrelevant then.

People deciding he's guilty of this charge are jumping the gun, but deciding there's plenty of reasons to conclude that he's a **** that don't require a jury to establish. We've all seen them.

And since when has 'proven beyond reasonable doubt' been a standard for talking on a forum like this?

[MindGuerrillas]

he's been denied bail. on remand until jan 3rd

[rushscored4]

So the reference to Hillsborough was irrelevant then.

People deciding he's guilty of this charge are jumping the gun, but deciding there's plenty of reasons to conclude that he's a **** that don't require a jury to establish. We've all seen them.

And since when has 'proven beyond reasonable doubt' been a standard for talking on a forum like this?

I used the analogy with Hillsborough to prove a point that just because someone has a reputation and it's in the papers it doesn't mean it has to be "the truth"...

[SouthAfricaRed]

I know. And to think that some fans were championing his cause to play for us.

There goes his inevitable move to a top four club eh.

I was thinkng the same

A real waste though. If only he could focus on his game

[Kenneth]

I used the analogy with Hillsborough to prove a point that just because someone has a reputation and it's in the papers it doesn't mean it has to be "the truth"...

I appreciate that. I think when someone is arrested and charged, although they're not necessarily guilty, it's gone beyond simple tabloid speculation. The reports of comments from his lawyer also reveal a lot. Provocation or not, he has a short temper and seems to have reacted violently.

[Neil Young]

On a side note, the idea that a footballer who is not an international is nonetheless earning £45,000 every week is what is wrong with football these days and is why so many of us who love the game can't afford to go, or are on the verge of not being able to afford to go.

It's obscene.

[Iceman]

He has been refused bail because he was already on bail for 2 other alleged offences when this latest (alleged) incident took place.

Under the bail act there are no conditions that could be satisfied for him to be bailed again


It just amazes me that here is someone earning more in a week than many of us earn in 1 or 2 years, already on bail relating to assault, and decides to go out drinking in his home town presumably went clubbing and ended up in Mc Donalds, and then apprently lacked the self control to walk away from trouble.

At best it shows a clear lack of judgement at worst it is total stupidity

[AFII]

He may well have been arrested and charged. He could well be guilty. My comments were aimed at the many people in this thread who had already made their minds up that he IS guilty because it's in the papers and because he has 'history'.

As far as I'm aware, this country still has a policy of someone being innocent until proven guilty - not the other way round.

And if you want to be childish, have this back: :whatever:

Look at the picture of Dabo, several of his former team mates saw him kick the **** out of Dabo.

I don't think you can get any more clear cut case than that.

[Red_Al_77]

Has he been convicted of anything yet?

[AFII]

Has he been convicted of anything yet?

No. They will have the trail for the assault on Dabo after the season.