Question re manager jobs etc...

[Craig_H]

Firstly, regarding the Newcastle job. Heard them mention shearer on the radio and they said he isnt qualified so cant take the job as he doesnt have his 'Pro badges' but he's learning them now. But he has his 'Uefa A badge'.


Question is, what the feck are they exactly (i know they're coaching qualifications) but what's the difference and what does each enable you to do?

Furthermore and more importantly, why do you NEED these badges? Surely the owner of a club can appoint whoever he likes, it's HIS right isnt it?

Is it actually not in the rules then for someone to be appointed without these 'qualifications' ?

And once again, what is the reason for this? As i said, i cant see why the owner of a club shouldnt be entitled to appoint who he likes - if the candidate doesnt have the qualifications, surely that's at the owner's own risk?

Anyone clued up on this malarky?

[Red Chilli]

They're different levels, A,B and C

I think you need at least a B


The reason for it is to scam some money, there's no other reason for it. Someone said to me it's like doing a driving test, you drive all proper when it's your test then you do your own thing once you have that bit of paper.

Pointless load of ****e.

[Craig_H]

Hmm, hadnt really thought of it that way. Do they really generate that much cash though? Within the realms of football sponsorship, tv revenues etc, i cant imagine the amount of cash they get for these courses can be particularly significant?

[Red Chilli]

Hmm, hadnt really thought of it that way. Do they really generate that much cash though? Within the realms of football sponsorship, tv revenues etc, i cant imagine the amount of cash they get for these courses can be particularly significant?

Depends on how many people you have on the course

[anfieldanfield]

You need a UEFA 'A' license.

Basically it's a two week course, then a year's coaching experience, then another two weeks of being tested.

Only 5% of people pass their UEFA 'A' first time around.

[anfieldanfield]

Hmm, hadnt really thought of it that way. Do they really generate that much cash though? Within the realms of football sponsorship, tv revenues etc, i cant imagine the amount of cash they get for these courses can be particularly significant?

It costs thousands and thousands of pounds to get a UEFA 'A' badge.

[-V-]

Well if i had a billion pounds i could buy liverpool and appoint myself Manager couldnt i?

So these rules and courses are in place so that only experienced football people can run teams. Essentially its to protect clubs from abuse and for the sake of high standards of coaching

[Craig_H]

It costs thousands and thousands of pounds to get a UEFA 'A' badge.

Ok, that's fine.

But compared to sponsorship deals and tv rights contracts, which generate MILLIONS, it still seems like loose change.

[Red Chilli]

Well if i had a billion pounds i could buy liverpool and appoint myself Manager couldnt i?

So these rules and courses are in place so that only experienced football people can run teams. Essentially its to protect clubs from abuse and for the sake of high standards of coaching

Is it bollocks

It's to make money, no other reason

[Craig_H]

Well if i had a billion pounds i could buy liverpool and appoint myself Manager couldnt i?

So these rules and courses are in place so that only experienced football people can run teams. Essentially its to protect clubs from abuse and for the sake of high standards of coaching

That's kinda what i was thinking.

But supposing Abramovich wanted to appoint his old neighbour as manager and this chap wasnt remotely qualified. Couldnt he just give him a novelty 'job' title and let him effectively BE the manager?

Seems like one of those rules they cant really enforce. From the looks of it, any old clueless clown can still take a job as a manager...as newcastle fans have found out

[Red Chilli]

That's kinda what i was thinking.

But supposing Abramovich wanted to appoint his old neighbour as manager and this chap wasnt remotely qualified. Couldnt he just give him a novelty 'job' title and let him effectively BE the manager?

Seems like one of those rules they cant really enforce. From the looks of it, any old clueless clown can still take a job as a manager...as newcastle fans have found out

Exhibit A = Gareth Southgate

[anfieldanfield]

Is it bollocks

It's to make money, no other reason

No it's not.

It's to ensure the standard of coaching across grass roots football is upheld.

It's a genuinely effective system.

[Craig_H]

Well yeah, they gave him 'special dispensation' for that...i bet Boro fans are well chuffed

They did the same for Glenn Roeder too, IIRC. Bet they do it for Shearer too, if Ashley wants to appoint him.

Makes you wonder why they dont just scrap the rule.

[Red Chilli]

OK, you lot believe what you want to believe, but football existed for over a century without these feckin courses so I can't see why we suddenly need them now.

[Craig_H]

No it's not.

It's to ensure the standard of coaching across grass roots football is upheld.

It's a genuinely effective system.

How do you know so much about this?

You've applied to do the courses, havent you?