6+5 ruling

[Exiled_red]

This is just going to stuff smaller clubs right up, as i stands now only players that are highly regarded are snapped up by the big teams if this comes in then any youngster that can kick a ball will be hoovered up by the big teams for peanuts.

I think it was planned for 2012/13 which is still a little way off, and what are the specifics do you have to be available for the host national team or just a citizen?

From what I read I understood it to mean you had to be eligable to play for the national team (England) even if you were a Scottish or Welsh international who had lived in England all your life you would be classed as foreign.

[Leyton388]

Load of **** as all the Prem will do is tell fifa to **** off as it is our league and we will run it as we see fit. The EU will tell Blatter to **** off also. This is just a knee yerk reaction to how strong our league is. Never going to happen. Fifa might try to tell our FA and the premier league how to run our league but at the end of the day fifa cannot force the prem into doing this.

[Warren]

From what I read I understood it to mean you had to be eligable to play for the national team (England) even if you were a Scottish or Welsh international who had lived in England all your life you would be classed as foreign.

If a player has played in the host country from youth level they will be classed as home grown so not classed as a foreigner

[ScouseUK]

I agree, but Blatter seemed pretty convinced today -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/7421348.stm

sky news said it best blatter is full of idears that never happen,if you look at what he is actually saying he needs the whole of the eu to agree on the same thing and for countrys with big leagues like spain,italy england full of forigners then can anyone seriously see that happening...

plus in order for this to work legally the eu will need to change laws for it,laws that people fought long and hard to get in place to start with...

blatter needs to forget it and move on to his next bright idear

[Exiled_red]

If a player has played in the host country from youth level they will be classed as home grown so not classed as a foreigner

That's under the current ruling for European games starting this season (08/09) From the article I read on the new 6+5 proposal it said that players must be eligable to play for the national team of the country they are playing in

[ScouseUK]

EU says foreign limit is illegal

The European Union has stated that Fifa's plans to implement the 'six-plus-five' rule are illegal under EU rules.

On Tuesday, Fifa president Sepp Blatter expressed his hope that the 'six-plus-five' rule will be in place by 2012/13, whereby the number of foreign players in a starting line-up would be limited to five.

However, the European Union has formally backed Uefa's 'homegrown players rule' in a bid to avert Fifa's proposal.

Uefa's 'homegrown players' rule favours setting a quota of players, of any nationality, on the roster who have been with the club for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21.

Non-English players

Vladimir Spidla, the EU's commissioner in charge of employment issues, said Blatter's plans to limit foreign players in domestic leagues are 'incompatible with EU law'.

Uefa director of communications William Gaillard has argued in favour of the 'homegrown players' rule despite the plans outlining that it does not necessarily have to be English players that are trained in academies.

He told Sky Sports News: "What was agreed between Fifa and Uefa is that the objectives of the 'six-plus-five' rule would be pursued within the limits of the law.

"The congress of Fifa will not vote on the rule they will vote on the objectives. The 'homegrown players rule' actually achieves, in great part, the objectives that the 'six-plus-five' rule is supposed to foster.

Benefits

"In particular, the protection of club academies, national teams and youth. It has been clearly sated that the 'six-plus-five' rule is illegal under European law.

"The 'homegrown players rule' has been endorsed today by the European commission after being endorsed twice by the European parliament.

"The 'homegrown players' rule would protect English football and Premier League from nationality inequality. The local communities will also benefit from this rule."

why is this starting to feel like its fifa vs the english league

"The 'homegrown players' rule would protect English football and Premier League from nationality inequality. The local communities will also benefit from this rule."

[SK]

fifa vote in favour of 6+5 rule

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...pe/7421348.stm

[Guest]

I don't understand Blatter and his motives !? He's not a fan of football if he pushes something as delusional as this! It's against meritocracy and it devalues the sport.

[chadrtc]

Anything to stop the english clubs winning.....of course, when there were 3 italian clubs in the semis a few years ago no one gave a ****!

[Guest]

Anything to stop the english clubs winning.....of course, when there were 3 italian clubs in the semis a few years ago no one gave a ****!

But why ?? Why does he have an agenda against British clubs ? (Allegedly because that is mere speculation in my opinon)

[chadrtc]

But why ?? Why does he have an agenda against British clubs ? (Allegedly because that is mere speculation in my opinon)

Why will they never give england a world cup but Mexico and Italy can have as many as they like....and now seemingly the U.S as well!

[Jennings]

Who cares about the national side? Club football is where it is at.

[Reece]

I still don't get this. Surely if they attempt to enforce it, a club (or clubs) can just take them to the European Court of Law for restriction of free trade?

Or something.

[Darth Marty]

As been said this would be an ansolute nightmare to implement. The top teams would take it to court and even if they were in a losing position it would be tied up in red tape for years and years. It simply is not going to happen.

[dww]

Blatter wins backing for quota proposal

'It is an overwhelming support to this resolution'

* Les Roopanarine and agencies
* guardian.co.uk,
* Friday May 30 2008

Sepp Blatter's controversial proposal to introduce a law forcing clubs to field a minimum of six home nationals in their starting line-ups has moved a step closer to fruition after it received overwhelming backing at Fifa's annual congress in Sydney. The Fifa president's resolution was endorsed by a majority of 155-5, with 40 abstentions.

"We were at the crossroad between the interests of clubs and national teams, and the congress of Fifa has given very clear indications of where we have to go," said Blatter. "Together with the chairman of Fifa's football committee, Mr Franz Beckenbauer, and Michel Platini, we come to this resolution. The congress was very happy in a result of overwhelming majority, with 155 votes in favour and five against. It is an overwhelming support to this resolution. The application of such a system would start only at the end of 2010 and we would start progressively with four, five and six."

Blatter hopes to have the scheme, which would limit teams to five foreign players, in place by the 2012-13 season. However, he is likely to encounter stiff resistance from the European Commission, who have denounced the idea – which would risk falling foul of regulations on free movement of labour and non-discrimination – as illegal and discriminatory.

The European parliament recently voted by more than 10 to one against Blatter's plan, with Vladimir Spidla, the European commissioner for employment, insisting that "the proposal is directly discriminatory and therefore incompatible with EU law". Blatter, however, remains unperturbed by the possibility of a legal challenge.

"Speaking about it is illegal? For whom? For when? If there is a law, a law can be amended," said Blatter. "Where there is a will, there is a way. And we will try with consultation and consultation and not confrontation. I have a meeting with the speaker of the European parliament on June 5 in Brussels, as he said, to explore the ways. If he says to explore the ways, it's not to say 'stop it', so you see we're on the right track."

Michel Platini, the Uefa president, expressed his support for the scheme while acknowledging the potential legal complications surrounding its implementation. "It is a thorny issue," said Platini. "Europe is not [in] a comfortable position but we will do all we can to help the Fifa president reach this objective.

"[The rule] is considered illegal by the European Union. Within the football family we don't all agree. Some of the leagues were against, some in favour, clubs generally against. We at Uefa would find ourselves in a difficult place and could find ourselves in court. [But] I fully share the philosophy and objectives of the rule. We are in full agreement when it comes to the general idea."

How far Fifa are from moulding that philosophy into a workable scheme remains to be seen. Blatter, who has previously sought backing for the proposal by arguing that the Premier League's domination of the Champions League highlights the need for a more level playing field, is now of the view that the idea would not have a radical impact on the status quo after all.

"We have had Manchester United winning the European Champions League with six players eligible for the Great Britain team at the beginning of the match, so we are not far away," Blatter added. Chelsea had four. Zenit St Petersburg, when they played Glasgow Rangers, they had up to seven. Glasgow had four or five. We are not far away from a situation."