Jack Wilshere

[Jayesh87]

Milky did you say you were at Uni? Did you mean off or of?

english is a secong language innit

leave me alone, i am knackered from 5-a-side

[peekay]

english is a secong language innit

leave me alone, i am knackered from 5-a-side

Milkman just curious.Do you live in India mate. If yes, where?

[Jayesh87]

Milkman just curious.Do you live in India mate. If yes, where?

No.

My gaam is Avda Falia, Matvad

[Chrono]

No.

My gaam is Avda Falia, Matvad

I got the following:

No - My - Is

Are you the NASA discovery from Mars?

[Chrono]

I think in the next 3 years this kid is going to be the best winger in the league. There is obvious talent and then there is this guy. The real deal.

[Parm]

I think in the next 3 years this kid is going to be the best winger in the league. There is obvious talent and then there is this guy. The real deal.

I have heard for one Wenger has a batch of young English kids coming through who are supposed to be scarily talented. Be interesting to see how Wilshire develops. If he cant do it at Arsenal with all their pro youth policy

[DannyMan2006]

I have heard for one Wenger has a batch of young English kids coming through who are supposed to be scarily talented. Be interesting to see how Wilshire develops. If he cant do it at Arsenal with all their pro youth policy

Bit overboard here. Henri Lansbury is another where people are tending to go over the top on. The kids look to have the ability, but I have seen far better talents end up by the way side.

If Pacheco had played like he had for us at Arsenal the media would already have him down as the next Bergkamp. Pathetic.

[dww]

Wenger said his current youth team 15/16 year olds are his best crop of yougsters ever. Our boys knocked em out the cup

It has to be said though that the real test is how well prepared they are for the step up - not how much they achieve/win at youth level. Wenger has shown over the years that he is exceptionally good at taking talented young players and making them top PL players. So far Rafa has not.

[El Jefecito]

For me there is a big question mark against Wenger. Undoubtedly his approach produces great technical players who are well schooled in playing the beautiful game. BUT can he forge in them a winning mentality? Can he imbue them with sufficient tactical knowledge that they can change their style as the game demands.

While I think the whole level 3 thing is a bit of an over-simplification, I ask myself does Wenger build teams that can effortlessly switch between all 3 as necessary. To me no, he doesn't.

What really proved the point to me was the CL game at Anfield. In the post-match interview he was disgusted, "Kuyt played as a right back". I couldn't help but laugh, thinking, "But that's what it takes to WIN" and our players were smart enough and flexible enough to know that and act on it. Wegners teams don't have that, so whilst other teams stay close to them technically, they will probably come off worst.

[dww]

I think that Wenger tends to have only one weakness and that is to include one too many attack minded midfielders most of the time. Whenever he has had success it has been with a solid midfield pairing most of the time (Vieira - Petit and Vieira - Gilberto being the best) but he has consistently tried to play with Fabregas and one other and when he picked the other as a less mobile player with less passing range (Diarra or Gilberto last season for example) this has been a real problem.

At their best last season they were varying their style of attack with long balls and unlike previous seasons made good use of crosses. For me most of the time the best form of defense is attack or at least fear of the counter and this they had.

The other problem (which if anything has gotten worse for them was that they lacked real leaders. Gallas was great when things were going well for them but in the final analysis he cracked. One more experienced head in the team would do wonders for them IMO.

[El Jefecito]

I think that Wenger tends to have only one weakness and that is to include one too many attack minded midfielders most of the time. Whenever he has had success it has been with a solid midfield pairing most of the time (Vieira - Petit and Vieira - Gilberto being the best) but he has consistently tried to play with Fabregas and one other and when he picked the other as a less mobile player with less passing range (Diarra or Gilberto last season for example) this has been a real problem.

At their best last season they were varying their style of attack with long balls and unlike previous seasons made good use of crosses. For me most of the time the best form of defense is attack or at least fear of the counter and this they had.

The other problem (which if anything has gotten worse for them was that they lacked real leaders. Gallas was great when things were going well for them but in the final analysis he cracked. One more experienced head in the team would do wonders for them IMO.

I agree that what you outline is a weakness. But the only one. No way.

His most glaring weakness is that when teams suffocate Arsenal and don't let them play their natural game they don't have much, a quick counter attack aside, to combat it.

[dww]

I agree that what you outline is a weakness. But the only one. No way.

His most glaring weakness is that when teams suffocate Arsenal and don't let them play their natural game they don't have much, a quick counter attack aside, to combat it.

I admit that was a slight exaggeration but I really think that many of the other problems stem from this oversight. I was meaning more form a long term systematic point of view rather than attempting to mean he was an all but perfect manager.

I thought that both last season and during the 'invincibles' season that when confident they did vary the way they attacked under pressure or when being suffocated - playing long balls to good effect and altering the balance between width and central attacks. He uses players changing style rather than more obvious changes to formation.

I would say actually that he shares a weakness with Rafa in a way that while a player is within his trust he will back them totally - even when others would not. However I think this is more of a double edged sword than an outright weakness.

[Parm]

I agree that what you outline is a weakness. But the only one. No way.

His most glaring weakness is that when teams suffocate Arsenal and don't let them play their natural game they don't have much, a quick counter attack aside, to combat it.

Yes you are right here, it seems to be plan A , pass them to death, but if that doesnt work, then moan like bitches

[El Jefecito]

I admit that was a slight exaggeration but I really think that many of the other problems stem from this oversight. I was meaning more form a long term systematic point of view rather than attempting to mean he was an all but perfect manager.

I thought that both last season and during the 'invincibles' season that when confident they did vary the way they attacked under pressure or when being suffocated - playing long balls to good effect and altering the balance between width and central attacks. He uses players changing style rather than more obvious changes to formation.

I would say actually that he shares a weakness with Rafa in a way that while a player is within his trust he will back them totally - even when others would not. However I think this is more of a double edged sword than an outright weakness.

Hmmm, food for thought. I never looked at it from that perspective. Some ruminating for me, methinks.

BTW I just feel that there are certain things that Wegner sees as below him. That there are certain things that he is too arrogant to buy into.

He was geninuely disgusted that we would deign to have Kuyt play @ RB for a fair portion of the backs to the wall phase of play in the CL.

To me his inability to subjagate everything to the will to win is the key weakness.

[frank the tank]

every manager has a weakness....

ferguson tends to cut off his nose to spite his face....leaving stam go that time cost united a lot in my view.... he also persists with certain players that shouldn't get near the first team...

wenger can be a moaning cunt and also, his body language on the sidelines when a player makes a mistake could certainly add to pressure... when his team is up against it, they tend not to respond to pressure too well...

benitez rotates too much when it is not necessary.... i'm not looking to open a can of worms here but simply stated - last season he rested el nino for a league match and played him 3 days later away to reading in the carling cup....hmmmm that doesnt make sense to me to be honest....

however, despite wengers weakness, he is still a legend of a manager... if we got him all those years ago, then we'd have feckin loved the last 10 years..... (owen and henry up front ) also, he managed a team unbeaten throughout a leage season...that's ****in incredible!!!