Tottenham Hotspur

[Kenneth]

I now agree with the free sub for HIA injuries.

It would get abused I'm afraid.

[Yozza]

Cheers mate! Been with each other nearly 4 years now and got engaged at the start of the year.

Congrats Slinky lad....

[Buzzo]

It would get abused I'm afraid.

Not if it is adjudicated by an independent doctor, which is another pre-requisite. This all happens in Rugby, as ever football is struggling to keep up.

[Slinky Skills]

Congrats Slinky lad....

Cheers man!

[Kenneth]

Not if it is adjudicated by an independent doctor, which is another pre-requisite. This all happens in Rugby, as ever football is struggling to keep up.

An independent doctor is not going to tell someone to get back on the pitch if they say they need to come off, have a headache, say they feel dizzy etc. It would get abused.

[Buzzo]

An independent doctor is not going to tell someone to get back on the pitch if they say they need to come off, have a headache, say they feel dizzy etc. It would get abused.

It might initially, but it would work itself out - and the protocol existing is more important than it initially being abused. Player wellfare has become an actual priority in Rugby over the last 3-4 years as opposed to it just being paid lip service. I have seen star players leave the field after 15 mins on HIA's, and players not feature again for 6 months plus due to HIA protocols. Obviously there are more collisions in Rugby, but the protocols are now taken seriously.

It would require rule changes, but all of them are simple and easily doable. Bare in mind this was successful in Rugby, a sport where there has been scandal around fake injuries (fake blood capsules to get a replacement).

The knock on effects in both sports are huge, and the repercussions on players will hit them in later life one of my mates Dad is an ex-pro who has been diagnosed with dementia, and the rate of ex-pros with Dementia is worryingly high.

Something will have to change n football, last night and the embarassing response from Pochettino tell you all you need to know (he claims the medics did not make a mistake and return to field protocols were followed, if that is true then it highlights the extent of the issue).

The protocols in Rugby are as follows.

When there is a suspected incident of head impact by a player or players, this should be identified by match officials on the field, team doctors or independent match-day doctors who have access to video replays. If the independent match-day doctor decides an incident may have occurred, the player(s) involved must be removed, either permanently or for further assessment.

Players displaying obvious on-pitch signs of concussion must be immediately and permanently removed from play, without further assessment.
When not showing clear on-pitch symptoms or signs, players must undergo an off-field assessment consisting of a clinical evaluation by an attending doctor (the team doctor does this or they can delegate to the match-day doctor) who is aided by screening tools and video reviews. Players cannot return before ten minutes for assessment has elapsed. Players taken off for HIA can be replaced, and any replacement can take a kick.

After the match every player entered into the HIA protocol must undergo another evaluation within three hours. This is done using a check of symptoms, memory assessment and balance evaluation – compared with previous player baselines.

At 36-48 hours post-head impact event, the player(s) will be assessed again, going through a symptoms check-list, studying a player’s balance and using a cognitive assessment tool like CogSport or Impact.

Each union and/or competition must appoint trained HIA review processor(s) to look over the process used in every head injury event.

There will be a post-game video review process. Depending on the findings, the reviewer may recommend further education and training for the club or team medical personnel or recommend that the process moves to HIA review.

The HIA review group will formally investigate the incident and make recommendations for: further education and training for the club or team medics; a request to World Rugby’s HIA working group to consider a change to the process, education and/or training; or a referral to the appropriate disciplinary group to consider disciplinary action in line with competition rules.

[Fosterbloke]

It would get abused I'm afraid.

So is welfare but it's for the greater good.

[Kenneth]

Has anyone else noticed that a disproportionate percentage of Tommy Robinson / UKIP gammons on twitter also support Tottenham. This is a genuine observation of mine and I wondered whether anyone else had noticed the same, or had formed a contrary Impression.

[peterbread]

Is anyone else watching the spurs game? This ref is having a shocker.
And now a red for spurs, it was coming.

[Bender]

Is anyone else watching the spurs game? This ref is having a shocker.
And now a red for spurs, it was coming.

Yeah and Eric Dier ..what a calamitous player he is,he's next for a red card...refs had a poor game.

[peterbread]

I’ve got an ex spurs player commentating as well. I really don’t like ex players doing their old teams. He’s changed his mind on Diers tackle that should have been a second yellow about 4 times when it’s clear to anyone.

[Bender]

lol another red for spurs and Foyth has only been on the pitch for 2 minutes...poor tackle

[Rigadon]

Spurs down to 9 players

[Venton]

Marvellous!

[Irishnev]

lol another red for spurs and Foyth has only been on the pitch for 2 minutes

Just turned it on, nasty from Foyth. I wish more refs would do that to be honest, we’ve been on the receiving end of a few of them this season