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    Originally posted by Chris View Post
    He's horrendous. Surprised Simeone is going for a one of the dumbest defenders in European football.
    I don't particularly rare him but as an established international and in a market where we have got not much less for unproven players like Ibe and Solanke the fee seems low to me.
    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      Fee is quite low. But he was absolutely toilet last season. I have a feeling he was only an established international because there were no good replacements.

      But he is 28 now, and players that age dont magically get better.
      *Except Michael, who died.

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        He's crap, but he was still their first choice RB last year.
        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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          mad transfer that, the type some journo had just made up for a few clicks.

          12 months ago his stock was higher than trents

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              I say good luck to him.

              More English players should be having the balls to move abroad.

              A lot of English players that are playing for Canon fodder clubs in the EPL could be fighting for trophies and medals at bigger clubs in smaller leagues across Europe and gaining valuable football and life experiences.

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                  Originally posted by topscorer View Post
                  I say good luck to him.

                  More English players should be having the balls to move abroad.

                  A lot of English players that are playing for Canon fodder clubs in the EPL could be fighting for trophies and medals at bigger clubs in smaller leagues across Europe and gaining valuable football and life experiences.

                  But missing out on a **** load of money.
                  If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                    We dont learn foreign languages at an early enough age, imho.
                    In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                      But missing out on a **** load of money.


                      It's still good money and if they join clubs that win things in the smaller leagues I think they would get the chance to get bigger deals back in England at a later date.

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                        Originally posted by topscorer View Post
                        It's still good money and if they join clubs that win things in the smaller leagues I think they would get the chance to get bigger deals back in England at a later date.
                        Good money to us, but for a footballer it's a fraction of what they could earn in the PL. I agree with what you are saying in principle, but from a footballers perspective, you could sign a 5 year contract with a PL club that would potentially set you up for life, or gamble on going abroad and being successful, which may or may not work out (more likely not I would guess in a lot of cases).

                        It may have changed in recent years, but definitely a couple of years ago the average wage in the Championship (never mind the PL) was more than double that of Portual and Holland's top division, so I can totally understand why a lot of footballers would be unwilling to take that risk.
                        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                          Professional footballers, they’re playing for money not life experiences.

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                            Everyone lives for life experiences. It's not all about the money.

                            Surveys have repeatedly shown that employees are attracted to benefits and environment more than money.

                            In any profession the people that just follow the biggest pay check regardless of anything else often end up the least happy.

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                              That's in the context of working for 45 years + and being old when you stop. When you're earning properly for 10-15 years and stopping in your early 30s, with ample time for life experiences, I think it must give a very different outlook to work.
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                                Pochettino is so weird.

                                So the message I am getting is that if Spurs want to keep him as manager they need to avoid winning trophy’s at all costs they seem perfectly equipped.

                                Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino says he may have left the club if they had won the Champions League.

                                The Argentine led Spurs to their first final in June, where they were beaten 2-0 by Liverpool.

                                Pochettino said prior to the game that he might need to "think about doing something different" should Spurs win.

                                "When you touch the glory, you behave differently, the players behave differently, the challenge becomes different," Pochettino said.

                                "If the result had been different, maybe you can think it is a moment to step out of the club and give it a possibility for a real new chapter with a new coaching staff.

                                "But, to finish like this? I am not a person who won't face problems or avoids difficult situations."

                                Put to him that many managers would have taken the alternative view, and stayed with the club if they had won, Pochettino said: "I agree with you.

                                "But I know Tottenham. It is not the same as another club.

                                "Myself and the coaching staff are not the same, no better or worse, just different. That is a normal mindset but we are getting results with ours."
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