Newcastle Utd

[Howard_lfc]

I want this thread to discuss what we all think of Newcastle Utd. How come they get all the major decisions wrong? How come they're so ****e? How
come their ****ing fans sing at the end of a game when they've just been whacked - again? How come a club with all that potential hasn't won a trophy since 1969? Yes 1969!!! There are 40 year old blokes who've never seen their team pick up a ****ing trophy for god's sake!
Even when they had an unasailable (sp) lead in the title race - they blew it. They had a great side under Keegan - and didn't win a carrot. So just what is it that's stopping this club from actually realising its potential. They can attract good players, pay good wages, give them a great part of the country to live in, and yet they still can't manage to get it right. They've even had decent managers in Kenny and Sir Bobby - but they were eventually seen off by the baying masses of the Geordie Nation.....
The club's history is litted with bad decision making, the latest one to appoint Glenn Roeder looks an absolute shocker of a decision. It would appear that they've decided to spend money on players (Duff, Martins) than on getting a decent manager in.......(why didn't they go for O'Neil????) And that brings me to the money side of it. Just where do they get all this cash from? Is Freddie Shepherd THAT rich - or is Sir Jon Hall dropping them a few back handers to tide them over?

I know this thread is a real mish mash of questions - followed by more questions - but exactly where do you start when you begin to talk about Newcastle Utd? Believe me - I tried to make it flow from one arguement to another but my head was chocker with more questions and so it became an amorphous mess !!!

We haven't got a game for a good while now - this should give us all enough time to have our two penneth on Newcastle Utd - or the barcodes if you prefer.

Fill yer boots!

H

[Mumsafan]

Why do their fat ugly fans stand there in all weathers with no feckin shirts on?

[Howard_lfc]

Why do their fat ugly fans stand there in all weathers with no feckin shirt son?

Who are you calling son?

[Mumsafan]

Who are you calling son?

Sorry!

[kurtangle01]

It's a strange one but I think their over reliance on Shearer in recent seasons hindered them. Freddy Shephard and his board of directors is another reason IMHO. He's made some shocking managerial appointments and when he does have someone decent he never gives them the time to turn things round.

They never balance their money out over 4 or 5 transfers that will improve them as a team. They always spunk their load on trophy players and never seem to get the balance right.

Do you remember about 5 years ago when fat Freddy got caught slagging geordies off in a hidden camera sting. He said that "All female geordies were pigs!" " Newcastle fans were thick as **** because they paid him £34.99 for strips that he bought from Addidas for 3.99!"

It was funny when it came out but somehow he manged to find his way back in to the board room.

[Mumsafan]

Of late they've always had a selection of individuals and no team. They've had a series of managers not up to the job as well

[Dhav]

They do have one thing going for them though - the most "iconic shirt" in English football

[Rich]

Do they try and claim that? Dear God!

[Dhav]

Do they try and claim that? Dear God!

I read it on one of their fan forums when Newcastle were "competing" with us to sign Kuyt.

One of the posts was along of the lines of: "he can chose to go to Liverpool, be a substitute and pick up trophies, or he can join us, be a hero, wear the most iconic shirt in English football, and have the chance to win a trophy"!!!

They haven't won anything in forty years but dont let that get in your way.

[fowlen]

I honestly believe that part of their failings are the fans.
They demand big name signings every year, and they get at least at least one big name (or spend shed loads on a one player) every year.

These signings might be pretty decent individual players, but they never seem to fit into the system that Newcastle play.

They'll also go out and sign one quality player, but having used significant funds, they then go and buy a couple mediocre players, so they spend big on Owen, Martins (and to a lesser extent Duff and Parker), but for every one of them they go out and buy older players (like Solano), or 2 or three very average defenders.

If they had a decent defense they'd be a decent side, but Roeder has bought badly in that department..... and they have very little cover everywhere else.

Added to that the Shepherd's decisions, the loss of Shearer, and their inability to give manager's time (and of course the rash appointment of Souness) means that they are further behind than they were a few years ago!

[Dhav]

I honestly believe that part of their failings are the fans.
They demand big name signings every year, and they get at least at least one big name (or spend shed loads on a one player) every year.

These signings might be pretty decent individual players, but they never seem to fit into the system that Newcastle play.

They'll also go out and sign one quality player, but having used significant funds, they then go and buy a couple mediocre players, so they spend big on Owen, Martins (and to a lesser extent Duff and Parker), but for every one of them they go out and buy older players (like Solano), or 2 or three very average defenders.

If they had a decent defense they'd be a decent side, but Roeder has bought badly in that department..... and they have very little cover everywhere else.

Added to that the Shepherd's decisions, the loss of Shearer, and their inability to give manager's time (and of course the rash appointment of Souness) means that they are further behind than they were a few years ago!

Exactly, and when they finally brought in a manager with a bit of pragmatism, ie Kenny, they sacked him in a year and a half.

[lfc4ever]

Newcastle face a tough test in the Uefa Cup group stage after being drawn to play Celta Vigo, Fenerbahce, Palermo and Eintracht Frankfurt in Group H.

There are four matches per club in each group, with two at home and two away against different opposition.

Newcastle face home games against Fenerbahce and Celta Vigo but travel to Sicily to take on Palermo and end the group with a trip to Frankfurt.

Palermo, in particular, could be a major obstacle, having beaten West Ham 3-0 at home in the last round to seal a 4-0 aggregate win.

But after hearing the draw, Magpies assistant boss Terry McDermott was confident Newcastle would qualify.

"I don't think it's daunting," he said.

"I think it's a very difficult draw we've got, but there's two home games and two away games, and if you win your home games you'd expect to qualify.

"If we keep everyone fit and free from suspension then you'd like to think we could qualify and go through."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5399702.stm

OK, you can stop laughiing now!

[Shaggy]

I saw Shay Given on the telly earlier saying "The UEFA Cup may be seen as slightly secondary, in terms of finances anyway, but this group proves it isn't. This group is tougher than the one we had in the Champions League a few seasons ago."

[TheStig]

I hated it when McDermott said that Bellamy "was getting into trouble at Liverpool." when that clearly wasn't the case. :whatever:

I hate Newcastle . But they make me laugh.

[paulcooper4]

I hated it when McDermott said that Bellamy "was getting into trouble at Liverpool." when that clearly wasn't the case. :whatever:

I hate Newcastle . But they make me laugh.

to be fair, we dont know he isnt. Was a hard one for me, as who do you side with? the fella who is currently wearing the shirt? or one of the best attacking midfielders weve ever had? I just tried to ignore it