Newcastle Utd

[TheStig]

to be fair, we dont know he isnt. Was a hard one for me, as who do you side with? the fella who is currently wearing the shirt? or one of the best attacking midfielders weve ever had? I just tried to ignore it

How would McDermott know though?

[paulcooper4]

How would McDermott know though?

I suspect hes got better contacts at anfield than me

[Morph]

I think the top and bottom of it is Freddy Shepherd, him and their board? have the final say in who the manager is, and they've picked some turkey's recently. They board authorizes ridiculous amounts of cash to be splashed on players that they aren't their number one priority. Let's face it they've spent the last 2 summers buying strikers and attacking players, when they've got one of the ****test defenses in the league, but they back their **** managers decisions to the hilt, until it comes time to fire them.

So basically they'll carry on going through the manager merry go round, until either there's a shakeup on the board, or they get lucky and hire a decent manager who can take them places.

[mersey86]

Let's face it they've spent the last 2 summers buying strikers and attacking players, when they've got one of the ****test defenses in the league.

True and rather funny ... or sad, depending on your perspective. Its like America's foreign policy. Don't think things out, just buy bigger guns. Shepherd is a big culprit and the fans do deserve better.

[Taffy]

I couldn't give a damn why they are so crap - long may it continue I say!!!

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

I think the top and bottom of it is Freddy Shepherd, him and their board? have the final say in who the manager is, and they've picked some turkey's recently. They board authorizes ridiculous amounts of cash to be splashed on players that they aren't their number one priority. Let's face it they've spent the last 2 summers buying strikers and attacking players, when they've got one of the ****test defenses in the league, but they back their **** managers decisions to the hilt, until it comes time to fire them.

So basically they'll carry on going through the manager merry go round, until either there's a shakeup on the board, or they get lucky and hire a decent manager who can take them places.

Spot on. The chairman picks the managers, who sign the players.

Just look at Newcastle's worst example of recent times; Shepherd - Souness - Boumsong £8m.

[red g]

Spot on. The chairman picks the managers, who sign the players.

Just look at Newcastle's worst example of recent times; Shepherd - Souness - Boumsong £8m.

hmmm bungsong more like!!!

[Howard_lfc]

hmmm bungsong more like!!!

Surely not!

[hockin_monster]

This is their spend on players purchased at over £4m in the last 10 years. Now ask your self again. Where has it all gone wrong?????

Michael Owen Forward Real Madrid £17,000,000
Alan Shearer Forward Blackburn Rovers £15,000,000
Obafemi Martins Forward Inter Milan £10,000,000
Laurent Robert Midfielder Paris St Germain £9,500,000
Albert Luque Forward Deportivo £9,500,000
Jonathan Woodgate Defender Leeds United £9,000,000
Hugo Miguel Viana Midfielder Sporting Lisbon £8,500,000
Duncan Ferguson Forward from Everton £8,000,000
Jean Alain Boumsong Defender Rangers £8,000,000
Tino Asprilla Forward Parma (Italy) £7,500,000
Carl Cort Forward Wimbledon £7,000,000
Scott Parker Midfielder Chelsea £6,500,000
Kieron Dyer Midfielder from Ipswich Town £6,000,000
Craig Bellamy Forward Coventry City £6,000,000
Elena Marcelino Defender from Real Mallorca £5,800,000
Gary Speed Midfielder Everton £5,500,000
James Milner Midfielder Leeds United £5,000,000
Jermaine Jenas Midfielder Nottingham Forest £5,000,000
Damien Duff Midfielder Chelsea £5,000,000
Alain Goma Defender from Paris St.Germain £4,700,000
Alessandro Pistone Defender Inter Milan £4,500,000
Dietmar Hamann Midfielder Bayern Munich £4,500,000
Titus Bramble Defender Ipswich Town £4,500,000
Cristian Bassedas Midfielder Velez Sarsfield £4,130,000
Didier Domi Defender from Paris St. Germain £4,000,000

That's £180m. Let's point out some really feck up's here ....

Goma £4.7m
Bassedas £4.13m
Domi £4m
Marcelinio £5.7m
Viana £8.5m
Luque £9.5m
Robert £9.5m
Boumsong £8m

That's £54M spent on players who have contributed less feck all. And their just the foreign ones. The jury is still out on Martins. Let's go closer to home ....

Owen £17m
Cort £8m
Ferguson £8m
Bramble £4.5m

STOP STOP STOP. It's far easier to name the ones ended up justifying their transfer fees:

Shearer £15m (legend)
Hamann £4.5m (played well and they made some money on him)
Jenas £5m (as above)
Woodgate £9m (piece of transfer genius that, £4m profit on someone who did next to feck all for them)

Jury's still out on Parker, Dyer and Duff.

There's you fecking problem. Hemorrhaging cash like it grew on trees on players that for most of the time were only better than average.

Not that we're any better .....

Diouf
Heskey
Cisse

But at least we've won something

[WILF]

Thanks for the informative post Hockin

All clubs make mistakes with transfers ,but as you highlighted NUFC make more than most.

Big ground with high attendances, large transfer budgets, no trophies, often laughed at.
Makes you glad that we have got Moores and Parry ,despite their limitations ,doesn't it?

[TheStig]

But at least we've won something

Won more than just "something" in that time .

[Howard_lfc]

This is their spend on players purchased at over £4m in the last 10 years. Now ask your self again. Where has it all gone wrong?????

Michael Owen Forward Real Madrid £17,000,000
Alan Shearer Forward Blackburn Rovers £15,000,000
Obafemi Martins Forward Inter Milan £10,000,000
Laurent Robert Midfielder Paris St Germain £9,500,000
Albert Luque Forward Deportivo £9,500,000
Jonathan Woodgate Defender Leeds United £9,000,000
Hugo Miguel Viana Midfielder Sporting Lisbon £8,500,000
Duncan Ferguson Forward from Everton £8,000,000
Jean Alain Boumsong Defender Rangers £8,000,000
Tino Asprilla Forward Parma (Italy) £7,500,000
Carl Cort Forward Wimbledon £7,000,000
Scott Parker Midfielder Chelsea £6,500,000
Kieron Dyer Midfielder from Ipswich Town £6,000,000
Craig Bellamy Forward Coventry City £6,000,000
Elena Marcelino Defender from Real Mallorca £5,800,000
Gary Speed Midfielder Everton £5,500,000
James Milner Midfielder Leeds United £5,000,000
Jermaine Jenas Midfielder Nottingham Forest £5,000,000
Damien Duff Midfielder Chelsea £5,000,000
Alain Goma Defender from Paris St.Germain £4,700,000
Alessandro Pistone Defender Inter Milan £4,500,000
Dietmar Hamann Midfielder Bayern Munich £4,500,000
Titus Bramble Defender Ipswich Town £4,500,000
Cristian Bassedas Midfielder Velez Sarsfield £4,130,000
Didier Domi Defender from Paris St. Germain £4,000,000

That's £180m. Let's point out some really feck up's here ....

Goma £4.7m
Bassedas £4.13m
Domi £4m
Marcelinio £5.7m
Viana £8.5m
Luque £9.5m
Robert £9.5m
Boumsong £8m

That's £54M spent on players who have contributed less feck all. And their just the foreign ones. The jury is still out on Martins. Let's go closer to home ....

Owen £17m
Cort £8m
Ferguson £8m
Bramble £4.5m

STOP STOP STOP. It's far easier to name the ones ended up justifying their transfer fees:

Shearer £15m (legend)
Hamann £4.5m (played well and they made some money on him)
Jenas £5m (as above)
Woodgate £9m (piece of transfer genius that, £4m profit on someone who did next to feck all for them)

Jury's still out on Parker, Dyer and Duff.

There's you fecking problem. Hemorrhaging cash like it grew on trees on players that for most of the time were only better than average.

Great stats HM - but you really should get a life !!

Seriously - that's one almighty bundle of cash considering it wasn't accompanied by a single tin of brasso.

H

[Neil Young]

I can't help feeling that Newcastle's relative geographical remoteness is part of the problem. I travel all over the country quite regularly and there are some places that really do feel very different from elsewhere. Liverpool is definitely one but but its proximity to Manchester and all those old Lancashire mill towns means it's not isolated, unlike places like East Anglia, Cornwall and the North-east.

OK, Newcastle has got Sunderland and Middlebrough close by but everyone knows it is the biggest city around, capital of the region so to speak. In terms of the football club they're happy enough being top NE club rather than the best in the whole country. That's why myths like "Newcastle is a big club" are so dear to them and ironically also so damaging because it lets the pressure off the board of directors for underperformance.

I'd be grateful to anyone who can think through this theory with a little more clarity.

[Howard_lfc]

I can't help feeling that Newcastle's relative geographical remoteness is part of the problem. I travel all over the country quite regularly and there are some places that really do feel very different from elsewhere. Liverpool is definitely one but but its proximity to Manchester and all those old Lancashire mill towns means it's not isolated, unlike places like East Anglia, Cornwall and the North-east.

OK, Newcastle has got Sunderland and Middlebrough close by but everyone knows it is the biggest city around, capital of the region so to speak. In terms of the football club they're happy enough being top NE club rather than the best in the whole country. That's why myths like "Newcastle is a big club" are so dear to them and ironically also so damaging because it lets the pressure off the board of directors for underperformance.

I'd be grateful to anyone who can think through this theory with a little more clarity.

It may be nice to be the biggest/best team in the region but surely that would wear off pretty quickly when you start casting envious eyes towards Liverpool, Manchester and London.

Newcastle lacks leadership at the top - and everything else is a consequence of this.

[Rowan]

I live in Newcastle and have done all my life and frankly I will be devastated if they ever win anything. They have the most one dimensional set of fans I have ever come across. Ultimately the only thing they have to cling on to is the "best fans" tag they have given themselves but never seem to notice that you get **** all for singing. May they all rot in eternal damnation for their blinkered, deluded, idiotic and frankly self obsessed football fundimentalism!