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Nani looks horrendous to me, I cant think of one thing he does well, doesnt score a lot, isnt a great crosser, despite his pace and stepovers he doesnt beat people easily. Im not sure what he's meant to be good at. If they think he's the new Ronaldo because he's Portuguese, does stepovers and is a cheat they'll end up very surprised!
Anderson looks the better of the two but he seems to have gone pretty ****e since about February last season. His passing is dire at times, I dont think he found a team mate once at Anfield recently and its baffling that he was apparently this amazing attacking midfielder at Porto.
Anderson might end up very good but i'd be amazed if Nani is still at Utd in 2 years.
i disagree, whilst the price may have been excessive for two 'potential' players, if they come good and play for utd for many years to come the fee will be obsolete. anderson is only 20 and nani 21, both are full internationals and have very good resale value, so its not like they will lose money if they eventually decide to sell.
nani at £14 mil has played a role for the mancs similar to babel who cost £11 mil and i wouldnt say he has fared much better. anderson at 18 mil has done much better than our £6 mil brazilian lucas and whilst the price margin between the two is massive i still think anderson has the potential to be a mainstay in the utd line up for years to come, lucas on the other hand....
“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques”. Bill Shankly
Ask any manc who they prefer in the team and they'll tell you.
Fletcher was **** two years ago but now he's quite a good player.
I don't think either of them are good enough. Fletcher was **** and remains ****, maybe he's improved his **** slightly and on a scale of turds he's now possibly a floater?
Hargreaves is probably their most important player. The problem is that he is injured a lot.
You what? Has he actually played for them? Anderson, Nani, Hargreaves and Carrick all scored in the CL penalty shoot out and they're all ****?
FWIW
Don't rate Hargreaves much
Don't rate Nani much
Carrick is there most underrated player. Since he moved to them 2 years ago, he has played 40+ times both years, they've won 2 prems and a CL.
Anderson, i'm not sure about. Though he was good around the time they played us at Anfield, but not seen much of him since.
Ask any manc who they prefer in the team and they'll tell you.
Fletcher was **** two years ago but now he's quite a good player.
Experience can count for a lot. (I would say that of course but still...)
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
Manc fans will say they won the big double last year but truth be told, these guys were just fringe players and remain so. Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Scholes, Carrick, Hargreaves, Giggs, Fletcher and Park.Those are the guys who have performed for them
If Benitez had spent that kind of money on 2 kids with potential there would be uproar. £35-40M
Im not saying i didn't think they had some talent when they were signed up but the price was ridiculous and looking at them now its looks even more ridiculous
Fergie is a ****in joker. Veron was about £30m, Saha £12m, Kleberson £7m, Smith £7m .........Could easily make a case for Carrick and Hargreaves at £20m each.
Just shows what we are competing against when these clowns are spending stupid money on average squad players and only getting about half of them right
is this a serious comment? they've won the double with those two gaining experience.
this just comes across as very bitter, having a pop at two of their youngest players who still contributed a lot to them winning the biggest trophies while gaining experience.
I see them both becoming very good players, you don't just turn up in the premier league as a 19 and 20 year old and dominate everything, doesn't work like that.
You what? Has he actually played for them? Anderson, Nani, Hargreaves and Carrick all scored in the CL penalty shoot out and they're all ****?
FWIW
Don't rate Hargreaves much
Don't rate Nani much
Carrick is there most underrated player. Since he moved to them 2 years ago, he has played 40+ times both years, they've won 2 prems and a CL.
Anderson, i'm not sure about. Though he was good around the time they played us at Anfield, but not seen much of him since.
Stop saying them. You've admitted to saying you are a manc. Nice to see you come out of the woodshed.
Fletcher has improved vastly over the past year or so. I wouldn't be surprised if he does displace Scholes more often than not. He was noticed for his pressing game however he has now added that with a decent range of passing and good off the ball movement. He has already scored three goals this season, more than he scored all of last season.
I think Anderson will make it as a top class player, he's having a bad spell - dodgy second season syndrome. Still they paid out top dollar on him though.
As for Nani, don't rate him and doesn't seem to have the natural talent of a Ronaldo.
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