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    #16
    Originally posted by Reggie View Post
    Mean it or not it's right that he apologises for it.


    Fredo is right that he shouldn't be ripped limb from limb for it either though. An honest, outright apology from Pardew should be the end of it. By saying nothing he's just making it worse.
    "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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      #17
      Originally posted by fredo View Post
      Why? To be politically correct? Loads of bollocks IMO. If he was someone who was renowned for saying such things I could have understood.
      Because I don't think it's an appropriate term for that sort of programme. That's not being overly politically corrent, or taking the moral high ground, I just don't think it's appropriate, simple as that. I wouldn't use that term or phrase in front of my family, and that might be the sort of programme I may well watch with my family so I wouldn't want to hear it used.
      I don't think he should get castrated for it, but a simple apology is all that is required, and won't hurt him.

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        #18
        Originally posted by fredo View Post
        Well mate he didn't mean it that way at all. He said this in pure footballing terms, maybe it was a bit of a slip of the tongue but I'm pretty sure that's just what it is.
        Where do you draw the line then? Is it ok for football presenters to say a player played 'like a spastic' as long as he meant it in pure footballing terms?

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          #19
          Originally posted by Reggie View Post
          Because I don't think it's an appropriate term for that sort of programme. That's not being overly politically corrent, or taking the moral high ground, I just don't think it's appropriate, simple as that.
          I don't think he should get castrated for it, but a simple apology is all that is required, and won't hurt him.
          I can understand that there are kids watching this kind of program, but then again I've seen kids saying worst things than that when with each other. Those same parents being outraged by that are for the most just hypocrites.

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            #20
            Originally posted by fredo View Post
            I can understand that there are kids watching this kind of program, but then again I've seen kids saying worst things than that when with each other. Those same parents being outraged by that are for the most just hypocrites.
            It doesn't mean we should have to lower our standards to the lowest common denominator does it?

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              #21
              Originally posted by fredo View Post
              I can understand that there are kids watching this kind of program, but then again I've seen kids saying worst things than that when with each other. Those same parents being outraged by that are for the most just hypocrites.
              Fredo, you are showing your complete ignorance of sense.
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              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                #22
                Originally posted by rudedog View Post
                Where do you draw the line then? Is it ok for football presenters to say a player played 'like a spastic' as long as he meant it in pure footballing terms?
                I'm not saying it's good and that everyone should get away with that. Everybody watches big brother or some other crap reality TV show, even kids are lulled into it. This is worse than Pardew having a slip of the tongue during match of the day. Yes he should probably apologize now but I would be curious to see who are the kind of parents or getting outraged at this. It's too easy to be pedantic in these kind of situations.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Tee View Post
                  Well to all those taking the high moral ground on this one, well ****in done, but I smell bs.

                  The term 'raped' in the context it was used is pure and utter street slang. Surely you can see there is absolutely no connection between saying a player got 'raped' and the physical 'rape' of a woman.

                  I found it funny purely for the fact that Pardew was talking 'street', like a middle aged Dad trying to be cool.

                  This world has gone PC mad - yes it was a term that should not have been used on national tv but it was funny, at least I can admit that.
                  Hang on a minute, you think it's funny and people like me smell of bull**** but also that it should not have been used on national TV.

                  Make up your ****ing mind.
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                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Reggie View Post
                    It doesn't mean we should have to lower our standards to the lowest common denominator does it?
                    No but him giving his apologies isn't going to erase what he said??? It's going to be replayed on and on from now. We'll see if some TV stations have got the same high common denominator that you're implying. It's not going to change anything.

                    FFS, kids are brought to football grounds nowadays, where it's hardly a place full of angels. It's probably doing them a disservice putting them in cotton wool because this is not the real world.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by fredo View Post
                      I'm not saying it's good and that everyone should get away with that. Everybody watches big brother or some other crap reality TV show, even kids are lulled into it. This is worse than Pardew having a slip of the tongue during match of the day. Yes he should probably apologize now but I would be curious to see who are the kind of parents or getting outraged at this. It's too easy to be pedantic in these kind of situations.
                      I'm sure there are some who are overreacting and there are probably others who will use it as a stick to beat the BBC with (the Mail for one). However anyone with half an ounce of intelligence would realise that what might be permissible for a conversation with your mates (not that I personally would ever use the term like that) is not acceptable on BBC1.
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                        Hang on a minute, you think it's funny and people like me smell of bull**** but also that it should not have been used on national TV.

                        Make up your ****ing mind.
                        Yes, what don't you get?

                        It was a slip of the tongue, obviously. Should not have said it but it was funny. Get off high horse, acknowledge the human ****in error and move on.
                        "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          I'm sure there are some who are overreacting and there are probably others who will use it as a stick to beat the BBC with (the Mail for one). However anyone with half an ounce of intelligence would realise that what might be permissible for a conversation with your mates (not that I personally would ever use the term like that) is not acceptable on BBC1.
                          Never said it was 'permissible' only that it was funny. Cameras are stuck under manager's noses in this day and age and we can't really expect them to be prepared to be 100% clean each time they are interviewed. The BBC were interviewing a football manager, who could have come from any background not just pruned to some kind of middle class upbringing and they should expect cock ups like that to happen.

                          It's the way they make a mountain off a molehill on things like that which pisses people off (me in particular). If you expect everyone to be politically correct, then go on and interview Gordon Brown or Tony Blair.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Tee View Post
                            Yes, what don't you get?

                            It was a slip of the tongue, obviously. Should not have said it but it was funny. Get off high horse, acknowledge the human ****in error and move on.
                            He rides a dog not a horse.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Tee View Post
                              Yes, what don't you get?

                              It was a slip of the tongue, obviously. Should not have said it but it was funny. Get off high horse, acknowledge the human ****in error and move on.
                              I agree with the human error bit but where's the bull**** you mentioned?
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                                #30
                                Originally posted by fredo View Post
                                He rides a dog not a horse.
                                Fredo, you are showing your complete lack of timing, etc.
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                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                                May the Lord bless this post.

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