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    Originally posted by wiw View Post
    I think it's called trying to take the moral high ground Can't see Everton fans changing but we may soften them up over time, who knows eh? I'm not going to stoop to their level though
    I'm not stooping to their level wiw. I'm not calling them murderers or going about trying to start trouble or anything. I'm just not reacting to their abuse with embrace and applause. And i'm not going to want them to win the FA Cup.

    I'm not responding to their actions with more of the same.
    Last edited by Craig_H; 21-04-09, 12:48 PM.

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      Originally posted by wiw View Post
      I think it's called trying to take the moral high ground Can't see Everton fans changing but we may soften them up over time, who knows eh? I'm not going to stoop to their level though
      I can see them changin, but only if we change our stance towards them...we have to be the bigger fans here...if you call out other fans, and they don't respond, or if they respond with positive chants towards you, what then? Carry on your derogatory chants and end up looking like complete ****s, or start singing about your own team instead?

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        Originally posted by Scratch View Post
        I think that the whole argument with Everton has gone on long enough. The City used to pride itself on having a "Friendly" derby day, with fans that were the envy of every other club. I would love that day to return, and the only way it is going to happen is if both sets of fans grow up. It only takes one rock to start an avalanche and all that, so if that rock is a bunch of Everton fans and a JFT 96 flag, and a bunch of mature, sensible reds, then great.

        Course, we could just carry on being bitter and vindictive towards each other, have a hate filled rivalry and lose the "merseyside" tradition altogether, which is what you seem to be advocating? Or some of us could extend a hand towards our less fortunate brethren, and get back to the way Liverpool used to be.
        I have nothing but respect to the lads who took the flags to Wembley and i have no problem generally with Everton fans.

        But people who go around calling me a murderer and the like, can **** off.

        I'm not going to extend the hand of friendship to people who spend the majority of a game abusing me.

        Anyway, i'm off now.

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          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          I'm not stooping to their level wiw. I'm not calling them murderers or going about trying to start trouble or anything. I'm just not reacting to their abuse with embrace and applause. And i'm not going to want them to win the FA Cup.

          I'm not responding to their actions with more of the same.
          Bar calling them "bitter bluenose ******s", "cunts" and stating that they call all "**** off"...not quite on the level of some of their insults, but words that would certainly start trouble in any normal society.

          And neither am i reacting to their abuse with applause and embracing it, i'm, choosing to ignore it...if you don't react, people soon get bored. You don't ignore it, you rise to it, which plays right into their hands...or is your internet persona differentfrom your everyday persona, and in reality you don't act like you do on here towards them?

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            Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
            I think you're a little confused here. I am perfectly capable of giving credit to teams when they deserve it. I just dont WANT them to win the FA Cup, that's all really. Not giving them credit and not liking them are totally different things.

            You like being all chummy with one of our fiercest rivals. You like having them slag you off and call you a murderer, but you're still chummy with them. That's fine.

            I dont really respect people who go around calling us murderers, but if you're happy with it and want to put an arm around them, that's your business.
            That doesn't really make any sense though mate because Everton football club, their players and the vast majority of their fans do not call us murderers, just a small mindless minority.

            I'm with Scratch, there's only one team from the north west I wouldn't want to beat Chelsea and no prizes for guessing who. I want Everton to win the cup now they're in the final against Chelsea, they're our (smaller ) neighbours and the two clubs are connectedd by location, tradition and family. A few ****s shouting 'murderers' or one of their players getting the wrong end of the stick won't change that.
            "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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              craig is right says voz

              stop kissing the blue arses ffs

              get some backbone man
























              but seriously craig is bang on

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                Heh, you know you're on to something when the two most discernable voices of opposition are Elvoz and Craig, to bastions of...well...of pure drivel really. Altho at least Voz makes his entertaining. Welcome back, the forum missed you.

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                  Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                  Heh, you know you're on to something when the two most discernable voices of opposition are Elvoz and Craig, to bastions of...well...of pure drivel really. Altho at least Voz makes his entertaining. Welcome back, the forum missed you.


                  bastions............good word.
                  “…Slip like Freudian, your first and last step to playing yourself like accordion.”

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                    Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                    Bar calling them "bitter bluenose ******s", "cunts" and stating that they call all "**** off"...not quite on the level of some of their insults, but words that would certainly start trouble in any normal society.

                    And neither am i reacting to their abuse with applause and embracing it, i'm, choosing to ignore it...if you don't react, people soon get bored. You don't ignore it, you rise to it, which plays right into their hands...or is your internet persona differentfrom your everyday persona, and in reality you don't act like you do on here towards them?
                    How am i reacting towards them on here? They arent on here.

                    Apples and oranges.

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                      Originally posted by BFG View Post
                      That doesn't really make any sense though mate because Everton football club, their players and the vast majority of their fans do not call us murderers, just a small mindless minority.

                      I'm with Scratch, there's only one team from the north west I wouldn't want to beat Chelsea and no prizes for guessing who. I want Everton to win the cup now they're in the final against Chelsea, they're our (smaller ) neighbours and the two clubs are connectedd by location, tradition and family. A few ****s shouting 'murderers' or one of their players getting the wrong end of the stick won't change that.
                      Spose it depends whether you've personally been on the end of it, or not.

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                        Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                        Heh, you know you're on to something when the two most discernable voices of opposition are Elvoz and Craig, to bastions of...well...of pure drivel really. Altho at least Voz makes his entertaining. Welcome back, the forum missed you.
                        ive never hit the complain button before ya know

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                          Originally posted by elvoz View Post
                          ive never hit the complain button before ya know
                          Bastion. He called you a bastion.

                          I know it's not what you usually get but there is a difference.
                          .
                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            Originally posted by elvoz View Post
                            ive never hit the complain button before ya know
                            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                            Bastion. He called you a bastion.

                            I know it's not what you usually get but there is a difference.

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                              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                              Spose it depends whether you've personally been on the end of it, or not.
                              Not really. I've been in the crowd and heard it and I think the individuals are idiotic, but it doesn't create ill feeling within me toward people or instituitions that have done nothing to deserve it. That would just be daft.

                              Maybe if you had some Evertonians in your family you'd appreciate that the idiotic element within your support does not define you, only how you behave does.
                              Last edited by BFG; 22-04-09, 01:19 PM.
                              "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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                                Originally posted by BFG View Post
                                Not really. I've been in the crowd and heard it and I think the individuals are idiotic, but it doesn't create ill feeling within me toward people or instituitions that have done nothing to deserve it. That would just be daft.

                                Maybe if you had some Evertonians in your family you'd appreciate that the idiotic element within your support does not define you, only how you behave does.
                                Think you're missing my point, somewhat.

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