Alan Shearer

[cumbriankop]

i think newcastle would be similar or worse than leeds. they're in similar debt, their fans are and would be even more so livid, and they have huge wages to get players to go. assuming they clear the books of all top end players with high wages, they then use that money to wipe out some debt - they then have no team.

the best thing for them would be to clear out the dross they have on silly money, and start promoting youth and giving it a chance as talent in the area would probably look elsewhere, and there are good young players in the region probably more likely to end up at boro with their record

[Craig_H]

If thats the case then they'll be a bit ****ed although the relegated clubs do get parachute payments for a couple of years but as we've seen if a club doesn't get back up to the prem in 2 seasons then they usually struggle a la Leeds, Leicester, Charlton and Southampton

The parachute payments are nowhere near as much as PL clubs get normally though:

The Premier League distributes a small portion of its television revenue to clubs that are relegated from the league in the form of "parachute payments". Starting with the 2006-07 season, these payments are in the amount of £6.5 million over the club's first two seasons in lower leagues. Though designed to help teams adjust to the loss of television revenues (the average Premier League team receives £45 million while the average Football League Championship club receives £1 million), critics maintain that the payments actually widen the gap between teams that have reached the Premiership and those that have not, leading to the common occurrence of teams returning soon after their relegation. This, however, does not take into account former Premiership mainstays which currently are in The Football League, such as Wimbledon (now defunct), Southampton, Sheffield Wednesday, Coventry City and Leeds United, who were founding members of the Premiership and stayed there for between nine and 12 years before going down, and have yet to return.

The payments have been also criticised as causing Premiership teams to play more cautiously—playing not to lose instead of playing to win—because the threat of relegation means the loss of payments from the television rights. In fact, as of December 2006, the goals-per-game average is only 2.14, the lowest it has ever been in Premiership history and lower than any other professional league in Europe. Steve Bruce, at the time manager of Birmingham City, stated that,

So it works out as £3.25m per season. Compared to about £45m for clubs who survive. It's a chasm.

[Matt]

I actually think going down could be the best thing for them. It'll remove any lingering pretentions of them being a 'big club' and take the pressure off the manager.

The club needs gutting and rebuilding again and a season or two in the Championship would allow them time out of the spotlight of expectation to put in some solid foundations for the future.

[Craig_H]

Assuming they dont go bankrupt.

[dww]

I've never really understoof this 'play for a draw because of the dangers of relegation' argument. Surely the chances haven't changes - three still go down and there are still three times as many points available for a win as a draw. While I accept that having a **** Championship defence in the PL because you want to play attacking football like West Brom is a mistake I don't think playing to win is necessarily the problem.

It is also notable that many of the teams that went down and stayed down had to pay for new stadia (a common feature with Newcastle I guess) and/or were run by people who clearly were not planning forthe future (another common feature with Newcastle).

I really doubt it will be good for them.

[Pacman]

I like him, always have.

Anyone who tells Fergie to **** off twice in my book is a good egg.

He's always speaks highly of us and came across as a good loser on Sunday.

I wish him all the luck in the world.

Just not with Newcastle.

[Joe King]

He needs to find his best players and find a suitable system. As a pundit who has always advocated organisation and the whole best players in best positions, he has done it arse backwards.

If he wanted to become Newcastle manager, surely before Kinnear was appointed it would have been a better manager as he would have had the ability to assess the players for a longer time and his short term stay won't do any good for neither himself, the players or the club.

The defence is like a sieve, the midfield lacks the bottle or the brains and the attack is toothless. You would have thought the goalless draw might have been quite good for them as the defence would have taken something out of that however it just seems that they are unbelievably low on confidence, morale and nothing at this rate will get them out of this. If Shearer can't, you start to wonder who can.

Its clearly a club in mess. Why change a good formula by implementing a business like structure? The managers from the corporate level downwards needs to come under business review and consideration as to how a 'big' club like Newcastle have become such a desperate club. Certainly when watching the game on Sunday, it felt like it was beating a drunk in dark alley with his hands tied back. They are shackled with all sorts of crap.

The sooner Ashley sorts the club out, I would think Shearer might stay depending on the money the club has and the sort of people he has the ability to work with.

[Craig_H]

He needs to find his best players and find a suitable system. As a pundit who has always advocated organisation and the whole best players in best positions, he has done it arse backwards.

If he wanted to become Newcastle manager, surely before Kinnear was appointed it would have been a better manager as he would have had the ability to assess the players for a longer time and his short term stay won't do any good for neither himself, the players or the club.

The defence is like a sieve, the midfield lacks the bottle or the brains and the attack is toothless. You would have thought the goalless draw might have been quite good for them as the defence would have taken something out of that however it just seems that they are unbelievably low on confidence, morale and nothing at this rate will get them out of this. If Shearer can't, you start to wonder who can.


Its clearly a club in mess. Why change a good formula by implementing a business like structure? The managers from the corporate level downwards needs to come under business review and consideration as to how a 'big' club like Newcastle have become such a desperate club. Certainly when watching the game on Sunday, it felt like it was beating a drunk in dark alley with his hands tied back. They are shackled with all sorts of crap.

The sooner Ashley sorts the club out, I would think Shearer might stay depending on the money the club has and the sort of people he has the ability to work with.

Someone with a bit of management experience and tactical nous, perhaps.

[Roboklopp]

I like him, always have.

Anyone who tells Fergie to **** off twice in my book is a good egg.

He's always speaks highly of us and came across as a good loser on Sunday.

I wish him all the luck in the world.

Just not with Newcastle.

Aye.

[Joe King]

Someone with a bit of management experience and tactical nous, perhaps.

I'm talking about inspiration rather than management and tactical ability.

[Matt]

I get your point Joe but he's not a very inspiring person really, despite what he's done for the club in the past.

[Joe King]

I get your point Joe but he's not a very inspiring person really, despite what he's done for the club in the past.

Surely a legend of a club should be an inspiring figure before he says a word?

[Matt]

Any awe would probably have dissipated the moment he opened his mouth.

[wiw]

At 16 Dowie was rejected by Southampton and later went to the University of Hertfordshire to study for a M.Eng Degree in Engineering. On completion he became an employee of British Aerospace, whilst keeping up football at non-league level playing for Cheshunt alongside his brother Bob