Originally posted by Shaggy
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Good point. I think that is what it boils down to. People whose lives lack something. -
it's weird isn't - i have found myself in a few situations - burnley away was a bit mad, oh and one of the finals in cardiff against chelsea i was in the thick of a load trouble that was pretty ****ing mental, had a few drunken bar brawls in uni and one (when i look back on it) terryifying episode on holiday in gran canaria - it's pretty ****ing insane and part of you looks back on it and laughs ands it's a bit of story to tell people and part of you is kinda relieved that you have come out of it unscathed, - but it's different to activley going out and saying "right lads, 30 of us, tool up, we're going to get them cunts for no real reason other than we should"Originally posted by Shaggy View Posti own everton fans on the internet....that's what i doComment
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Tribal mentality I suppose.Originally posted by Craig_H View PostI dont get the appeal. I really dont. What's enjoyable about fighting?
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those two cops at the begginig of the vid are just awsome, going against, what 30 of them cuntsOriginally posted by PTP View Postjust had a little look on youtube - nothing of interest there yet but to whet your appetite for hooliganism i have posted this
YouTube - Football Hooligans - Watford v Luton (2002)
and i tell you what if those two sets of cunts would have wanted a brawl they'd get around the two policemen, it just seemed like they were showing off, with no real subbstance...****ing cunts the lot of them!Jürgen Klopp
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A lot of these people in my experience are just brutes who don't care in the slightest about football, but come to these matches just so they can show off with their "streetfighting skills" and cause trouble (if the police is involved they love it even more)... It's really stupid, but I know quite a few of them personally
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The thing is Daffy, there's a difference between these kind of brawls and what you and Bugs and Tom and Jerry get up to.Originally posted by Daffy Duck View PostA lot of these people in my experience are just brutes who don't care in the slightest about football, but come to these matches just so they can show off with their "streetfighting skills" and cause trouble (if the police is involved they love it even more)... It's really stupid, but I know quite a few of them personally.
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.Comment
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I try to stay out of those since Elmer Fudd is lately having some problems controlling his temper (and his rifle), so...Comment
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'Religion is killing each other over who has the best imaginary friend'Comment
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Some good pics here, kin animals!! Great shot of the Millwall support going ape**** after they scored - to a man all facing West Ham and goading 'em. And to a man they look like absolute ****ing nutters
Last edited by Shaggy; 26-08-09, 07:55 PM.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Proof, if ever it were needed, that Martin Samuel is a complete and utter ****ing tool - he took his kids to the game 'cos he wanted them to see 'real football....lively football'.
Crash helmets outside The Queens pub in Green Street. Riot police on the road. That was the first sign. The first copper said it was the worst he had seen in 10 years. They had called for reinforcements by that time.
The rumours were already circulating of a fatality in Priory Street. A pal of mine, a Millwall fan, got off at Upton Park station. Police said they could not guarantee his safety. He turned around and went home.
Everyone thought I was mad to bring the boys here, even in the comfort of the posh seats. I said it was about time they saw a real football match. It seems a rotten joke now. I meant lively. I didn’t mean like this.
As always there will be recrimination, claim and counter-claim; all that bogus guff about who started what and why. I can’t comment on what happened outside the ground, but I know what I saw inside. This was not Millwall’s problem; this was down to West Ham.
The trouble started in a West Ham section, the pitch invasions followed home goals. The Italian-style baton charges, the like of which has not been seen in English football for a decade, were to quell the claret and blue end.
Stewards and police stand in front of the Millwall fans during the Carling Cup second round match at West Ham
No doubt the away end contained some real charmers, too, but they were hemmed in by police and security; outnumbered, too. The saving grace was that they did not have sufficient support to turn the stadium into a battleground.
That took place outside. As bad as one eyewitness, a senior policeman, had ever seen apparently. If he was around for the Seventies that is saying something.
Should West Ham be thrown out of the Carling Cup? English football was taken back to the dark ages as West Ham and Millwall fans clashed at Upton Park. There were incidents inside and outside the ground as hundreds of supporters went on the rampage on a night of horror in east London. Should the Hammers be thrown out of the Carling Cup? Or should they be punished in another way?
What possessed the pitch-invaders to seek approval of the players, to grin and try to shake hands like friends? West Ham could be thrown from the tournament after this, the ground could be closed. Football clubs, football people, despise them. Don’t they know that?
Security at football grounds is weak these days. Rocketing police charges have led to an increase in private orange-jacketed stewards who are no replacement for coppers.
They are glorified nightclub doormen. They do not want to get hit. They were letting interlopers back into the stand only for them to run on and do it again.
The police seemed swamped, unprepared for the enormity of the event. Perhaps we all were.
At the end, Jack Collison, the young West Ham midfield player who lost his father in a motorcycle accident on Sunday yet chose to play last night, was led from the field in an emotional state.
The contrast between him and the idiots cavorting around him could not have been more marked.
Why bother?
It is a question a good many would have been asking as they edged their way home, lit by blue flashing lights, stepping through the human debris and the broken glass.
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Mate of mine used to go boozing in one of his locals at the time, it's right near Gigg Lane in Bury. We're going back a few years now but I'll never forget this story, it may be bull****, but I doubt it.
Apparently Millwall fans came up the week before and left their phone numbers on the bog walls to arrange fights with the Bury fans. My mate knew some of the local hard nuts who were well up for mashing up some cockneys so he heard tales of both sets of fans exchanging numbers and being pleasant with each other just so they could arrange a time to kick seven bells out of each other. Tossers
Both clubs should be hit with a fine and booted from the Carling Cup
That dart throwing thing was sick, it's a bloody game where people bring their kids, madness I tells ya!Comment
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Why do people jump out of planes, why do kids dodge trains, why do people join the Army or go for dangerous jobs?Originally posted by Craig_H View PostI dont get the appeal. I really dont. What's enjoyable about fighting?
In this case it's an Idiotic thing to do but the answer I think is obvious why people do it.Forwards.......Comment
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Anyone who takes their kids to a midweek night game between West Ham and Millwall is a total and utter clueless ****.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostComment
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