Premier League - Games 19/20 September

[pondus]

They were the better team second half. Giggs was tearing at them each time he got the ball. City have got themselves to blame, extra minutes or not. If you look at the positioning of their defenders for that Owen goal, they were ****ing all over the place.

Mark Hughes got this wrong. Why didn't he change his midfield when they were being completely overrun there? Bellamy got them out of jail with two brilliant goals when they shouldn't. That's my logic.

As for the extra minutes, if each team are going to come into games at OT with that philosophy (i.e concentrating on the refereeing instead of the ****ing game), then they aren't going to get anything there.

That is so ****ing stupid in so many ****ing ways I don't know where to begin. One major point, the game should have ended long before they even got their chance.

[Nicey]

Well we didn't get beaten were we? It was United against City, not Liverpool playing and it was great entertainment. We should look after ourselves instead of whining at what United do and that's what you always do.

What were you doing posting on RedCafe all those years anyway? Riling them up?

You've gone right down in my estimations mate cunts

[Guest]

That is so ****ing stupid in so many ****ing ways I don't know where to begin. One major point, the game should have ended long before they even got their chance.

Well they fix everything then and Ferguson is the great Houdini. It's that simple.

[Assassin]

i just commented on the amount of injury time which was quite a bit more than what was on the board. surely you noticed this?

Yes I did

[Craig_H]

Well we didn't get beaten were we? It was United against City, not Liverpool playing and it was great entertainment. We should look after ourselves instead of whining at what United do and that's what you always do.

What were you doing posting on RedCafe all those years anyway? Riling them up?

You're an embarrassment of a 'Liverpool fan'.

[Nicey]

Well they fix everything then and Ferguson is the great Houdini. It's that simple.

When the Lg is won my a margin of single digit points .. we need this to be as level of a playing field as possible .. United get more help from referees than any other team .. Penos are not give at old trafford .. there is always a little bit more extra time for them and to see that little ****ing douchebag running along the touchline like that makes me sick

[JohnDoe]

Well they fix everything then and Ferguson is the great Houdini. It's that simple.

The referees always try to help the mancs when they're not winning. They always get decisions their way when they need them. They are a good side so will most of the time beat inferior teams without the help of referees, but when they don't, you can count on the referees doing everything they can to help them win.

It's been happening for years, so many times, it can't be a coincidence.

When was the last time a major decision went against them?

It's as clear as daylight.

They won the title last season too because of referees. Howard ****ing Webb.

[Lee]

Absolutely ****ing sickening.

Time, and time, and time again.

Cunts.

[Joe King]

Everyone seems surprised with the added time on top of added time. Why are we surprised? It's United, in a derby at Old Trafford! It's sickening no doubt but surprising, hardly.

[Guest]

The decision to award them +2 minutes was obviously wrong but if City stopped playing (like they did) there was going to be always one result.

[pondus]

Everyone seems surprised with the added time on top of added time. Why are we surprised? It's United, in a derby at Old Trafford! It's sickening no doubt but surprising, hardly.

[RedReet]

I certainly do not, i was arguing this point on here with someone the other day, when the margins are so tight, the best team doesnt necessarily win the title. Certainly not last season.

Sorry, but...

I was indeed referring to IF they go on to win it.

And whilst i agree that in some cases you get points when you dont deserve them, it works both ways too. Sometimes you get less than you deserve. And it works the same way for all clubs.

All things said and done, i find it hard to make an argument that says anyone other than the league champions deserve to have won it.

I know you like to argue, but at least try to be consistant.

[Guest]

You're an embarrassment of a 'Liverpool fan'.

I don't understand where you can come out with this conclusion when we haven't kicked a ball today.

[ric.williams]

Yes I did

sorry mate, i misunderstood. dont wanna be labelled in the 'the leagues fixed' gang

on reflection the 'EPIC' injury time as i put it will have come from city scoring late in normal time, by the time the match is resumed was already 30-40 seconds in then add the carrick sub. that might account for the time

[Shaggy]

Who? What did you do?

Oh dear. What did you do?

Got the brother-in-law over with his very prim and proper girlfriend. Also still have the in-laws here. I semi-lost it as time ticked on, screaming at the ref to blow up and as Giggs got the ball started shouting "NO....NO....NO....**** OFF......NO.......NO.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO **** OFF YOU CHEATING ****ING CUNTS, EVERY ****ING TIME, EVERY ****ING TIME" etc etc, snarling, booted the sofa....just completely exploded, really aggressively obviously. They're all unimpressed but the brother-in-law's bird appeared to be in deep, deep shock and upset.